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Re: Picking up a new hobby... Lock Picking. [Re: bodhisatta]
#26767499 - 06/21/20 07:40 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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1234go said: I don't think anyone is considering becoming a burglar, lol. I just think it'd be a fun skill to learn to pass some time while "distancing"
I have bounced around the idea of how it would be perceived if I ever got pulled over and my car tossed (which never happens) and they found the picks. I would bet they’d ask me what I’m using them for if they recognized what they are. I have a boatload of tools in my car too = burglar 
I’ve chatted with a few Pop A Lock guys and they have shit you’re not even allowed to own as a ‘civilian’...
@ Bodhi, I’ve not heard of any locks that self destruct but I’m learning wafer style locks and things like car ignitions are really easy to break if you get rough with them. Other than that I’ve seen locks with side pins that would be hard to get through but from what Im seeing it it’s a lock it can be gotten through.
The only one I’ve not seen someone demonstrate on is the locks that have a 3D sort of key that instead of lifting the pins it spins them. I’m not quite sure how you could get through that but I bet someone could..
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Re: Picking up a new hobby... Lock Picking. [Re: Amanita86]
#26767919 - 06/21/20 07:50 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Medeco is the most common in the US with rotating pins. Can be picked but I can't do it
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Medeco's lock design features lock pins that are "chisel tipped" which can only be rotated by keys with correspondingly angled cuts. This serves to increase the difficulty of key reproduction. A slot along the length of the pin causes the sidebar to drop once the pin has been rotated to its correct orientation. The off-centre chisel tip also allows 2 different offsets to the pin. The theoretical number of unique key combinations is over two million when using a lock with six pins, six heights, three rotational positions, and two pin tip angles
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Re: Picking up a new hobby... Lock Picking. [Re: bodhisatta]
#26769595 - 06/21/20 11:54 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Windshield wipers have nice long metal strips. Get some sand paper, wire cutters and make your picks and a wrench. Good times. No need to buy anything. Fuck go steal someone’s windshield wiper make a pick set while drinking beer in their front yard then kick their door in and steal their shit.
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Re: Picking up a new hobby... Lock Picking. [Re: Hunter hunter]
#26769615 - 06/22/20 12:14 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I ended up getting a inexpensive set that had the half diamond I specifically wanted and a raker, wafer pick and a few odds and ends that should cover all the bases for pin locks. If I happen to have ‘the touch’ I may invest a little further but I got pretty much everything I was looking to get for $15 shipped. Not bad for a hobby investment, usually they’re a little more painful. If I get into it I’ll probably end up going the MacGyver route and trying all sorts of wacky shit just to see if it works though. Windshield wipers are everywhere + if I really clue into this everything I see will probably start being evaluated on whether it could become a pick or not..
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bodhisatta said: Medeco is the most common in the US with rotating pins. Can be picked but I can't do it
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Medeco's lock design features lock pins that are "chisel tipped" which can only be rotated by keys with correspondingly angled cuts. This serves to increase the difficulty of key reproduction. A slot along the length of the pin causes the sidebar to drop once the pin has been rotated to its correct orientation. The off-centre chisel tip also allows 2 different offsets to the pin. The theoretical number of unique key combinations is over two million when using a lock with six pins, six heights, three rotational positions, and two pin tip angles
Yeah those are the ones. There’s a few Youtube videos of people showing how to get around them but it looks a little harder than what it appears, if you know what I mean. One guy took a rake and just scrambled it around for awhile and it ended up working so maybe there’s some luck involved in it..
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Re: Picking up a new hobby... Lock Picking. [Re: Amanita86]
#26770032 - 06/22/20 01:48 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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A door just outside my "real" door. A simple deadbolt rigged to explode if it turns. Stay the fuck out. You guys are making me want to live on a castle island and shit
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Re: Picking up a new hobby... Lock Picking. [Re: ichugwindex]
#26773226 - 06/22/20 04:43 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wipers and street sweeper bristles make good tension wrenches but poor picks imo.
I like the picks from sparrows.
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ichugwindex said: A door just outside my "real" door. A simple deadbolt rigged to explode if it turns. Stay the fuck out. You guys are making me want to live on a castle island and shit
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Re: Picking up a new hobby... Lock Picking. [Re: bodhisatta]
#26773536 - 06/22/20 05:08 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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How deep into this are you? Roughly speaking, where would you consider yourself on the locksmith totem pole?
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Re: Picking up a new hobby... Lock Picking. [Re: Amanita86]
#26773814 - 06/22/20 08:49 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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People call me when they're locked out but I couldn't make a job out of it. I'm proficient at most pin tumbler locks but not an expert by any means. Medeco is above my abilities for example. Those masterlock 410 lockout tag-out locks are probably the most difficult lock I can reliably pick. 6 pins all pins are security pins.
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Re: Picking up a new hobby... Lock Picking. [Re: bodhisatta] 2
#26774856 - 06/22/20 05:19 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Here's a 410 I milled away part of the bible down to the shear line. This is probably the hardest thing you'd encounter that you're actually going to open for someone. Better locks are securing armories and mail.
I'll make another and send you one if you are actually interested in trying it out.
Also, You can buy a few things like a clip remover. A follower, and then some pins. Also tweezers for locks that hold pins well. You can then rekey the lock making it easier or more difficult. Or just different
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Re: Picking up a new hobby... Lock Picking. [Re: bodhisatta]
#26775677 - 06/23/20 12:07 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hod do you guys feel about electronic locks?
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Re: Picking up a new hobby... Lock Picking. [Re: ichugwindex]
#26777423 - 06/23/20 05:43 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Most have a backup spot to use a key if batteries die or power is lost.
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Re: Picking up a new hobby... Lock Picking. [Re: ichugwindex]
#26777530 - 06/23/20 06:34 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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ichugwindex said: Hod do you guys feel about electronic locks?
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a15353529/hackers-crack-key-fob-encryption-used-by-more-than-25-automakers/
Decryption is the real lock challenge. It's like super easy if you get a rapid wave scanner. Like runs probable frequencies per model and year of the presumably, car you intend to open. Could take a few minutes to reach the right line of code once you receive the denied ones. You are strictly dependant on how many model algorithms you have. As for getting a list of manufacturer codes, that's a little bit of a different kind of lock picking, it's all hacking. Digital or physical binary key pinning.
Like these are my favorite to do.
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Re: Picking up a new hobby... Lock Picking. [Re: Salomon]
#26777721 - 06/23/20 08:13 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Those are super easy to decode and just cut. You can see the gates or use any shim as a feeler.
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Re: Picking up a new hobby... Lock Picking. [Re: bodhisatta]
#26777806 - 06/23/20 08:48 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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My god do I need a retinal scanner? What would ACTUALLY keep you guys out? Short of armed guards. And even then.
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Re: Picking up a new hobby... Lock Picking. [Re: Amanita86]
#26777838 - 06/23/20 09:03 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: Anyone ever get into lock picking? I’ve always liked puzzles and this one seems like one of those things that having a little know how could maybe pay off one day. .
I just literally had a flashback to the new Conan the Barbarian movie when at the end the thief can't find the lockpicks!
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Re: Picking up a new hobby... Lock Picking. [Re: bodhisatta]
#26777885 - 06/23/20 09:27 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Like you can litterally feel the pin line up with each twist of a circle. I can open those types in like 2minutes. Same as my medical lock box. When you're high and forget the combo, you learn fast
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Re: Picking up a new hobby... Lock Picking. [Re: Salomon]
#26777888 - 06/23/20 09:28 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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So you got skills.
Ok now we need an Archer.
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Re: Picking up a new hobby... Lock Picking. [Re: Fiery]
#26777931 - 06/23/20 09:46 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yea, I got a kit from my grandfather because i thought it was intersting to try. Picked all the pad locks i had and tried home door locks, surprisingly easy just raking and applying some turning pressure.
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Re: Picking up a new hobby... Lock Picking. [Re: Amanita86]
#26778392 - 06/24/20 04:33 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Drip some nitroglycerin into the safe lock with a syringe. Bang the lock with a hammer. (eye & ear protection!) If it didn't open, there is now room for more nitro.

Squirt a can of lighter butane into the card slot of the ATM machine. make a wick to the card slot with cord and gasoline. as the vapor explosion pushes the ATM into the street, grab the cash cassettes and run
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Re: Picking up a new hobby... Lock Picking. [Re: Asante] 1
#26778442 - 06/24/20 05:41 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Waiting on my picks to show up.. just opened my fire safe with a nail clipper file..
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