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First experience with P. Subs
    #26762199 - 06/21/20 04:01 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Hi all,

Yesterday I made a tea with 1.75g of fresh p. subaeruginosa, steeped in boiling water for 10minutes.  This was my very first time ingesting any psychedelic substance at all.

While drinking the first cup I steeped the mushrooms in hot water again and had a second cup.

About half an hour later I started feeling spaced out and nauseous.  I had to go to the bathroom and I thought I was about to vomit.

I started to get really anxious, thinking that I'd misidentified the mushrooms (I hadn't), and thinking maybe I'd made galerina marginata tea instead!!  I had flashbacks to the time I got really really too high on edibles and was freaking out in a public toilet for three hours thinking I was about to die or go insane...:crazy:

The nausea peaked at about 1 hour (I didn't vomit) but I felt pretty queasy for most of the day.

Other than the nausea I felt slow, spacy and kinda lethargic for the rest of the day.  I also felt quiet and introspective and less irritable than normal.

Overall it was not a pleasant experience.  I feel like it would have been better if I'd been able to lie down and relax but I had to be up and about.

Any of this sound familiar?

Any advice or comments?

Cheers.


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Re: First experience with P. Subs [Re: Blenner] * 1
    #26762292 - 06/21/20 05:24 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

The amount you took if they were truly P. Sub should have been barely perceptible, it was a microdose.

As far as nausea and lethargy goes, from such a small amount, is unusual. But not outside of the realms of likely. Everyone reacts differently.

I normally eat 10-15x what you consumed with little nausea ending within an hour. Low doses can be unpleasant for some people though. If you don't actually cross that line into tripping territory you can just be left off centre and feeling not great. Maybe that is what you experienced.

I'd suggest eating 10g fresh and really getting your feet wet. It won't blow you away, it's not a heavy dose, but will start to show you a bit what mushrooms can do.


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Re: First experience with P. Subs [Re: Northerner]
    #26763378 - 06/21/20 03:29 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks Northerner.

Yeah I was really surprised that I felt that nauseous. I was expecting it to be sub-threshold.

This was the dose:





Not sure how accurate the scales are but it wouldn’t be too far off.


Off-centre is a pretty good description of how I felt.

Thanks for the suggestion- I intend to do what you recommend- have a proper dose, in a calm and relaxed environment, and see what it’s all about.

I’ll probably report back then.


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Re: First experience with P. Subs [Re: Blenner]
    #26763445 - 06/21/20 04:07 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

When I read your first post, I was incredulous. Now I see the picture of the mushroom, dude, no way is that 1g fresh. Your scales are out. That’s at Least 5g. I’ve had many dried mushrooms that size that weigh more.

All the same, you should have felt more than you did :cookiemonster:


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Re: First experience with P. Subs [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26766265 - 06/21/20 06:44 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Ha really?! Damn! I gotta get myself some decent scales 😳
Thanks for the help.
Good to know that I’m not just super sensitive or something...


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Re: First experience with P. Subs [Re: Blenner]
    #26767109 - 06/21/20 07:29 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

How much does it show when you put the calibration weight on it? Is it right?
An Aussie 5c should weigh 2.83g, that's a good calibration check as well.


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Re: First experience with P. Subs [Re: Northerner]
    #26768085 - 06/21/20 08:00 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I ate a 2g fresh p.subs as my first experience too.  I had a kindof trippy, stoned time of things but with an unpleasant after-experience/comedown (anxiety and paranoia).

I have since found out that I'm incredibly sensitive to these mushrooms (haven't tried any others, might be sensitive to them all...) and I'm currently microdosing with 5mg (0.005g) which is just stupidly low, and I still get an annoying tiredness/confusion side effects - although I've had lots of positive changes with MDing too.

Bottom line is - play around with dose to see what works for you.  My 1g (dry) trip was a solid Level 3 from P.subs.  I'd recommend going a full dose - there are lots of inbetween dosages that are just yuk to experience and this seems to be pretty consistent with people.  You just need to find what your personal sweet spots are :smile:


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Re: First experience with P. Subs [Re: Northerner]
    #26772242 - 06/22/20 04:18 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Looks like my scales are accurate. 5c coin measures 2.83g pretty much spot on.
I may have made a mistake with the tare button, also the subs were a day or two old so probably had dried out a bit


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Re: First experience with P. Subs [Re: Blenner]
    #26773591 - 06/22/20 05:54 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Just eat more next time mate.  :wink:


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Re: First experience with P. Subs [Re: Northerner]
    #26775815 - 06/23/20 02:45 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Ha will do! Got it on the calendar 👍👍
Thanks


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Re: First experience with P. Subs [Re: Blenner]
    #26775829 - 06/23/20 03:09 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Yes I've been there tell us what happened?

Is everything cool?


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Re: First experience with P. Subs [Re: Fiery]
    #26775869 - 06/23/20 04:38 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Hi Fiery,

Yes everything worked out fine.

At the start when I began feeling sick I was getting pretty worried - imagining having to tell my wife to call an ambulance and all that...
To make things worse we had friends arriving for the weekend in an hour’s time.
Why I chose that morning to try mushrooms for the first time I don’t know 🤣

All good now though, feeling fine but definitely will treat the mushrooms with more care from now on - make sure I know how much I’m taking and pick my times a bit better.

It has been really good getting advice and feedback on this site though. Good to know there’s support and knowledge available.


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Re: First experience with P. Subs [Re: Blenner]
    #26775873 - 06/23/20 04:42 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Blenner said:


Yes everything worked out fine.

At the start when I began feeling sick I was getting pretty worried - imagining having to tell my wife to call an ambulance and all that...
To make things worse we had friends arriving for the weekend in an hour’s time.
Why I chose that morning to try mushrooms for the first time I don’t know 🤣

All good now though, feeling fine but definitely will treat the mushrooms with more care from now on - make sure I know how much I’m taking and pick my times a bit better.

It has been really good getting advice and feedback on this site though. Good to know there’s support and knowledge available.






Well done and yes


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