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Getting off phenibut (please dont move this post)
    #26760741 - 06/20/20 09:52 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

This is going to sound crazy, I have a problem this is a serious post. Ive beem through other drugs but this legal BS takes the cake. I feel like im going crazy. Im sorry about all my BS lately.


My problem with panic attacks is I take phenibut. Ive been taking it for a month only! I was normally at 1.5g twice a day. It started making me feel awful randomly, like panic attacks while I was on it most of the time. I decided to only take .8g today total and felt totally good until like 4-5 hours later. Sometimes it takes awhile to fully kick in but not for me usually, so I decided to wait it out and it didnt fet better like it usually does.i caved and took .7 just recently bc Im scared of having a seizure or something with out it. I havnt taken it very long so im just really confused on whats going on.

I get drug tested and dont ever wamt to end up in the hospital and given benzos or something and have to tell them whats going on, even tho I truly just want help. Anyone have experience with phenibut?  Its like I feel awful with or without it, but worse without it it seems.


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Re: Getting off phenibut (please dont move this post) [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26760747 - 06/20/20 09:56 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Phenibut starts offering wd’s after only a few days.  It’s really bizarre how fast they come on.  Best bet is to taper.  It’s easier said than done, phenibut doesn’t give up without a fight but aside from that what would be ideal is a doctor taper.  I’d look up taper methods and possible other drugs you could substitute while you cut back your dosages.  Gaba drugs are what you’ll want but I think there’s two kinds, A and B.  I think Phenibut hits the B..

For the record you’re not supposed to take it 2 days in a row or more than 2 times in a week.  The wd’s are brutal and come on immediately.


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Re: Getting off phenibut (please dont move this post) [Re: Amanita86]
    #26760773 - 06/20/20 10:05 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Oh I know youre not supposed too. I thought id be fine and just taper, i have like 600 grams still but it randomly started making me have panic symptoms and I didnt realize it. Youve had issues with it before?

If so, have you ever felt shitty just taking your normal dose?


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Re: Getting off phenibut (please dont move this post) [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26760778 - 06/20/20 10:10 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I’d already been through alcohol and benzo addictions at the time I came across Phenibut so I knew it was only going to lead to trouble for me.  I have a tub set aside for “emergency” but there’s never any emergencies so it’s just been sitting around for a few years now.

I remember reading a Reddit subforum where people who started taking it without realizing what they were getting into would post about their experiences and how they would get off it so you may check there.  I’m not 100% sure on how much danger you might be in if you run out and go cold turkey so, just take my advice with a grain of salt but if the shit hits the fan don’t hesitate to go to a hospital.  I’ve detoxed a few times at a hospital and it’s worth every penny.... they can make it a whole lot easier than you can on your own + safer.


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Re: Getting off phenibut (please dont move this post) [Re: Amanita86]
    #26760785 - 06/20/20 10:15 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Youve helped me before and I really appreciate the advice. Im a redditor myself so I am on there too. I just want my life back. Atleast with other drugs I could just taper, with this I feel weird with it and insane without it. I used to use geroin and methadone (clean for 6 years,) and to me this shit is close to heroin WD no doubt. Id argue that all day. Anyone reading this, tread lightly.


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Re: Getting off phenibut (please dont move this post) [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26760787 - 06/20/20 10:17 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah phenibut is one of those ones that I’m not sure how it slipped through the cracks because the negatives are huge and almost immediate.  You would think there may be some sort of perscription only set up..... considering things like kratom catch the heat they do, but nobody seems worried about phenibut.


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Re: Getting off phenibut (please dont move this post) [Re: Amanita86]
    #26760819 - 06/20/20 10:36 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Right... I unfortunately have been taking kratom for awhile too and thats cheese compared to phenibut, personal opinion atleast. I just wish it wouldve been more known how bad it can get. Ive never felt the sheer terror Ive felt from WD from this stuff before.


Regardless, thanks for saying something. I feel a lot better now.


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Re: Getting off phenibut (please dont move this post) [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26760835 - 06/20/20 10:41 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Just try not to feed into the ‘impending doom’ and evil spirits all around you etc.  I don’t know phenibuts specific ‘flavor’ of wd when it gets deep but I know the general feel of how that takes place.  Be careful when going to sleep and waking up, the transition is where it’ll actually come after you.

Scary thoughts are one thing, just consider it a learning experience but if any physical things start happening especially in your mind like brain zaps and shit that’s ‘physical’ it may be time to get some help and take the ride.

Other than that, just another day in paradise..:thumbup:


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Re: Getting off phenibut (please dont move this post) [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26760837 - 06/20/20 10:44 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

There’s a chance if you post something in ODD you may find someone with a lot of personal experience with phenibut and they can steer you a little better than I can..


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Re: Getting off phenibut (please dont move this post) [Re: Amanita86]
    #26760868 - 06/20/20 11:06 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

no experience with phenibut but with most meds (alprazolam and suboxone in my case)  you can better taper dose by measuring 10ml water in shot glass, dissolve a desired amount of med (say 10mg) and then suck into 10ml syringe so each ml equals 1mg. You can then step down to 7.5mg in 10 ml, then 5mg and so forth.


Also, dont feel bad about getting help if you need it. Medical detox might save you from a seizure. I never would have stopped if I didnt see someone and process some of the motivations I had for my unproductive use and find ways to cope with the physical and emotional triggers. I love my therapist and still see him 1x per month.

No shame in getting help.


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Re: Getting off phenibut (please dont move this post) [Re: Amanita86]
    #26760870 - 06/20/20 11:07 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Bro the evil sprits... the WD from this has me all over the place. Youre not far off. I know panic attacks but maby I have a low seizure threshold but people do have seizures from WD and I was feeling like something was about to happen. This drug is not good man, others handle it better but not me.

Im going to post something there now. Maby itll get better traction. :heart:


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Re: Getting off phenibut (please dont move this post) [Re: Amanita86]
    #26760873 - 06/20/20 11:09 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

but if any physical things start happening especially in your mind like brain zaps and shit that’s ‘physical’ it may be time to get some help and take the ride.

Other than that, just another day in paradise..:thumbup:




Agreed


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Re: Getting off phenibut (please dont move this post) [Re: scrantonstrangler]
    #26760875 - 06/20/20 11:11 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Good call on the volumetric dosing. Like I said to buddy above, I felt like I was past a panic attack and coming up to a physical situation. Scary.

Id get help but honestly im out of drug court in 3 months and if they knew about this Id be stuck in court much longer. This whole thing started from drug court. I used to just get a little weed buzz all the time, then couldnt anymore and made a bad choice and used drugs that wouldnt get detected. I wish I wouldve just stayed sober but I was broke and going through my stupid BS. I was only using weed/psychedelics until I started getting tested... its my own fault tho.


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Re: Getting off phenibut (please dont move this post) [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26760955 - 06/20/20 11:20 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

If it’s for a valid medical purpose they can still hold that against you?  I got a doctors note just saying I was going to be away a few days due to a “medical condition” and they didn’t go into any details on what that condition was.  If you have a doctor’s note saying they feel you need a benzo or whatever they choose and just leave it at that drug court will still say you ‘failed’?


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Re: Getting off phenibut (please dont move this post) [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26761017 - 06/20/20 11:24 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

healthcare providers can only communicate with drug court if you sign a release. If you have 3 months left you are prob on a schedule where you only report 1x per month and are not doing any programs so it may help you graduate rather than set you back.

Sounds rough, but knowing you can do it will help.


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Re: Getting off phenibut (please dont move this post) [Re: scrantonstrangler]
    #26761121 - 06/20/20 11:28 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

If I dont have the doctor sign this paper BEFORE I get prescribed or take anything, I fail. Im fucked in that regard. Theyre deep in my business, I call in everyday and test twice a week. Like if I went there for an extreme oanic attack, and got a benzo Id fail and then theyd hold me longer.

I want help so bad. I havnt failed a test in about 16 months. They wouldnt care why and its really upsetting. Just know I appreciate you guys for the conversation.


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Re: Getting off phenibut (please dont move this post) [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26761889 - 06/21/20 12:03 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

600g is too much. You have to taper and get rid of it because you can't control your usage. Your post starts with "This is going to sound crazy" but it doesn't at all. I read the title and my first thought was "yeah that shit is super addictive." I think I remember gabapentin being helpful here. Good luck


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