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Rahz
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Years ago I had a couple nice gentlemen knock on my door at 1:30am, politely asking me to open the door. I cut the lights and huddled in the hallway with a stick I kept sitting around. I called the police and told them what was happening. They told me they would be right out. About 15 minutes later I did see a police car drive down my street. That was it. They did follow up with a detective a few days later.
Fortunately those guys took the lights out as a sign I wasn't in the mood for company, but that did prompt me to buy my first gun, a 12 gauge. I've since upgraded to a 9mm SBR. In between I bought a small pistol with a 3" barrel but you would be surprised how difficult it can be to hit something at close range with it when you don't give yourself time to sight in. The SBR with a red dot can be shot from the hip. I've also got a few other pistols and plan to get a hunting rifle eventually. There's an outdoor gun range I visit nearby. I've never gotten into the tournament stuff but it's fun to set up targets and work on accuracy.
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Huehuecoyotl
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Re: Drugs and Guns [Re: Rahz]
#26780396 - 06/24/20 08:51 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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The problem with carrying a gun for self defense is that the training needs to be under high pressure and fast moving. Your typical concealed carry class just creates scared people who can't aim. Often times scared people fire before acquiring the target and hit the wrong person...or kill someone who just startled them. The cops at the city I work only fire 40 rounds a year in training. As an infantryman I fired many thousands of rounds a year. No wonder so many untrained scared cops kill civilians every year. I strongly suggest combat handgun training if you really want to own a handgun.
A couple of years ago an off duty prison guard who recently moved to the desert fired a 357 magnum at me. She had been calling border patrol about perceived illegal immigrants every Friday night. The sheriff and border patrol told me it had gotten old for them. It culminated in her firing 3 .357 magnum rounds at me walking my dog just before sunset. I saw the dirt kick up. I did not press charges but law enforcement pursueded her to move.
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Ovoidhunter
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Cops do a ridiculously small ammount of training compared to our military people per year. Thats why you see fat out of shape cops who are obviously not fit for the job on first glance. More funding, more training, better cops.
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Rahz
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I don't carry a gun, but the guns made for CC have such short barrels that even with time to aim a 20ft target can be difficult to hit consistently and I've put a couple hundred rounds through mine. I bought it to keep in my night stand but after using it I'd rather have the shotgun if the need arose. The SBR is best of both.
My step dad carries and would let himself be robbed before using it. So yea, various considerations beyond being able to aim.
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Re: Drugs and Guns [Re: Rahz]
#26781095 - 06/25/20 03:52 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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maybe the little CC gun is good for killing people that keep getting too close in a line up at Home Depot.
clearly these things are great for shooting at neighborhood dog walkers.
are you guys sure you need these things, they make a lot of noise and see to kill people and can't be that cheap.
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Rahz
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That's a lot of associative content red. Safe to say not everyone has the same associations as you.
Hopefully I'll never need the SBR or pistols.
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OrgoneConclusion
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As an infantryman I fired many thousands of rounds a year
I read that during the Iraqi "war" the kill ratio was 1 enemy combatant (or sketchy civilian) per 200,000 rounds fired. If true, it seems like a lot of scared and random shooting by trained military personnel.
If I remember correctly, the average American GI was lucky to have a dozen rounds during the Battle of the Bulge.
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OrgoneConclusion
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maybe the little CC gun is good for killing people that keep getting too close in a line up at Home Depot.
It DOES help to reduce the wait time.
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Pinkerton
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Phosphatidyl Serine or Choline & Inositol?
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redgreenvines
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so it's about efficiency, alrighty then.
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OrgoneConclusion
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Remember: Guns don't kill people; it is the energy transfer that kills people.
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OrgoneConclusion
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Just got a 15 round magazine in today for my Taurus G2c. I loaded it with Underwood Xtreme Defender +P+ with well over 400ft ft/bs of muzzle energy per round. The salesman told me it was an excellent anti-stalker round.
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Pinkerton
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I've got absolutely nothing for you to be freightened of. You have full control over me. I'm david and you're GOLIATH.
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OrgoneConclusion
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CASH OUT YOUR SAVINGS AND SEND ME THE CHECK!
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Pinkerton
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Blue circles. Busted!
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redgreenvines
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am I the only one here without any bullets or metal hand held bullet launchers?
I keep a 7 foot piece of theraband in my briefcase with which I can create a slingshot, or tie on a loose muffler, or any of thousands of other applications that like stretch and rubber.
I could send a borrowed bullet pretty rapidly at a target 10 foot away with a slingshot I guess, but it could take a minute or two and a good chair to build my shooter.
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Ovoidhunter
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OrgoneConclusion said: Just got a 15 round magazine in today for my Taurus G2c. I loaded it with Underwood Xtreme Defender +P+ with well over 400ft ft/bs of muzzle energy per round. The salesman told me it was an excellent anti-stalker round.
Underwood is good ammo
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redgreenvines
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who buys typewriters any more?
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Huehuecoyotl
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I don't ever carry any weapon...even in the desert less than a mile from the Mexican border. You know where all of the cartel hitmen and the rapists supposedly are coming from. I see these "dangerous" illegals frequently. They have never tried to kill me or, god forbid, rape me. (are 300lb 6' 4" mid 50s men desirable to rapists...not sure) But carrying a slingshot that you would have to contruct in seconds is almost worse than carrying nothing...like I do. If I had to go armed I would just move.
I did have an illegal immigrant pet one of my dogs once. She is a 75lb bluenose pit bull...very intimidating looking. Fortunately Mexican people love pit bulls.
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Huehuecoyotl
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Re: Drugs and Guns [Re: Rahz]
#26783035 - 06/25/20 07:28 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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You can conceal a .50 Desert Eagle if your careful...
-------------------- "A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda
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