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One man killed in Chopistan
    #26759661 - 06/20/20 11:18 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Seems Seattle mayor Jenny Durkan's "Summer of Love" lasted about two weeks.

There are few details at this time as real police are not 'allowed' in.

I am going to go out on a limb and guess that someone challenged Warlord Raz's authority. Can there be a protest within the protest? Can you destroy an already trashed city block?


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Re: One man killed in Chopistan [Re: OrgoneConclusion] * 3
    #26759718 - 06/20/20 11:54 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that we can safely discount the opinion of anyone who honestly believes "Warlord Raz's authority" or "an already trashed city block" are an accurate portrayal of reality.

Oh look at that - you're wrong! What a surprise...

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UPDATE: A security employee working in the area reported the shooter had been in a black SUV that arrived in the area on E Pine. A 911 caller told police a man carried a rifle out of the SUV before gunfire erupted, according to East Precinct radio updates. The man who was killed was hit by multiple shots on the southwest corner of E Pine in front of the Odd Fellows building. Camp security was reported following the suspect after the shooting. There have been no reported arrests by police.



https://www.capitolhillseattle.com/2020/06/one-reported-dead-one-wounded-in-overnight-capitol-hill-protest-zone-shooting/


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Re: One man killed in Chopistan [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #26759739 - 06/20/20 12:10 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Oh look at that - you're wrong! What a surprise...




A man recently arrested for domestic abuse, randomly handed out AR-15s, and that has already been filmed beating CHOP 'residents' could not possibly be capable of greater violence, is that correct?


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Re: One man killed in Chopistan [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #26760055 - 06/20/20 02:50 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Sounds very American


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Re: One man killed in Chopistan [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #26763004 - 06/21/20 12:41 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

wasn't there video of proud boys driving around in a van with no license plate and jumping people on the street in CHAZ/CHOP the day before?


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Re: One man killed in Chopistan [Re: ballsalsa]
    #26763008 - 06/21/20 12:44 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Right wing groups have been agitating these situations for weeks, and those six blocks in Seattle have been the number one story on Fox for days.


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Re: One man killed in Chopistan [Re: koods]
    #26768242 - 06/21/20 10:10 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Right wing groups have been agitating




Perhaps, but the billions of dollars in looting, arson and graffiti damage and 12 deaths from the Floyd "protests" and the takeover of Seattle were almost entirely the actions of the far left. Why would someone possibly react unfavorably to the dismantling of American culture and anarchy? Very puzzling... :confused:


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Re: One man killed in Chopistan [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #26773390 - 06/22/20 04:47 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Evidence of billions worth of damage? And how is conflating all the protesters with looters and rioters any different than calling all cops bad apples? Also, CHAZ takes up six blocks of seattle. Are you trying to say that seattle is only six blocks?


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Re: One man killed in Chopistan [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #26773742 - 06/22/20 08:11 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Lol billions of dollars in damage.


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Re: One man killed in Chopistan [Re: koods]
    #26774001 - 06/22/20 10:51 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

We Keep Us Safe: Decriminalize Seattle Statement on Shooting at CHAZ/CHOP

Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone/Capitol Hill Occupied Protest (CHAZ/CHOP) emerged from struggle and resistance against the Seattle Police Department (SPD) and its East Precinct in defense of Black lives. No single group fought in the streets against cops–instead, many different people from many different belief systems and organizations who all agreed that anti-Black police violence must end struggled together against the SPD and lifted demands for defunding SPD. Following SPD abandoning the East Precinct, thousands of people have helped hold the blocks around the precinct, providing decentralized support to each other. From food tents, to medics, to healing spaces, to political education, CHAZ/CHOP has provided a space to experiment with self-governance and self-determination, without police presence.

Last night’s shooting at CHAZ/CHOP is a tragedy. Our task now is to support the family and community of the person killed, the people injured in the shooting, and the people who witnessed the shooting.

We know that in every neighborhood of our city, violence is a constant. We know that police do not stop violence. We know that violence happens even when the police are present. Less than a year ago, a Black woman was killed on the same block as last night’s shooting, with the East Precinct fully staffed with officers only 200 feet away. The presence of police did not stop that death.

We also know that Seattle police do cause violence, including murdering people like Charleena Lyles, John T. Williams, and many others. Resistance against police violence and calls for a radical shift away from policing is why so many people have engaged with the global and local protests, and with CHAZ/CHOP. Police don’t keep us safe, we keep us safe. Last night’s shooting should redirect us to the task at hand – to defend Black lives by dismantling the Seattle Police Department and investing in real community safety.

We don’t yet know who was responsible for last night’s violence. It could have been carried out by people who know each other, or it could have been carried out by a stranger. We know that most violence occurs between people who know each other, such as family members, romantic partners, and neighbors, and that policing and criminalization are ineffective at preventing or addressing it. We also know that racism and sexism are the causes of enormous violence, and that police violence is a part of that, not a solution. Whatever the cause of last night’s shooting, real solutions do not look like continuing to fund and support the police. If we want to stop violence, we need to resource people and communities in a way this City has never committed to doing. We need people housed, we need people fed, we need healthcare for all, we need childcare for all, and we need real investments in the programs and communities that are developing to replace police responses to violence.


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Re: One man killed in Chopistan [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
    #26774363 - 06/22/20 01:57 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

SPD have been caught in so many bold faced over the last few weeks, the only people who still uncritically believe police statements must have had their heads down busy polishing boots. For those interested, this twitter thread provides a quality breakdown of the police propaganda:

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We now know that the public statement put out by Seattle Police following the shooting at CHOP on Friday night, was mostly fictitious, as revealed by their own bodycam footage. They showed up 10 minutes later than they claim, after the victim had been transported to Harborview.

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For those not familiar with the case, SFD medics were prevented from coming to the victim until police had cleared the scene. Police claim they were prevented from doing so, but in fact they hadn't even shown up yet.



Read the whole thing here



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Re: One man killed in Chopistan [Re: koods]
    #26780608 - 06/24/20 10:28 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Right wing groups have been agitating these situations for weeks, and those six blocks in Seattle have been the number one story on Fox for days.



Does it matter?  A group of terrorists just tooknover some random section of a major city and began extorting people who lived there.  War.


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Re: One man killed in Chopistan [Re: meltdowner]
    #26780744 - 06/24/20 11:34 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Are you declaring war on the U.S. public?


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Re: One man killed in Chopistan [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #26780889 - 06/25/20 01:03 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Right wing groups have been agitating







they are.

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Perhaps, but the billions of dollars in looting, arson and graffiti damage and 12 deaths from the Floyd "protests" and the takeover of Seattle were almost entirely the actions of the far left.




no dude, that's bullshit

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No single group fought in the streets against cops–instead, many different people from many different belief systems and organizations who all agreed that anti-Black police violence must end struggled together against the SPD and lifted demands for defunding SPD. Following SPD abandoning the East Precinct, thousands of people have helped hold the blocks around the precinct, providing decentralized support to each other.






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Re: One man killed in Chopistan [Re: ballsalsa]
    #26781252 - 06/25/20 06:20 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

No, they are not citizens at that point.


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Re: One man killed in Chopistan [Re: meltdowner] * 2
    #26781362 - 06/25/20 07:33 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

How did they lose citizenship?


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Re: One man killed in Chopistan [Re: Enlil]
    #26782108 - 06/25/20 01:13 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: One man killed in Chopistan [Re: meltdowner]
    #26782269 - 06/25/20 02:31 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Right wing groups have been agitating these situations for weeks, and those six blocks in Seattle have been the number one story on Fox for days.



Does it matter?  A group of terrorists just tooknover some random section of a major city and began extorting people who lived there.  War.



What makes you think theyre terrorists? Did they storm buildings while armed to get this done? No they did this in a peaceful manner. Only real dipshits can call a largely peaceful pop up festivale a. Bunch of terrorists lol


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Re: One man killed in Chopistan [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #26783460 - 06/25/20 11:50 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

lol my ass!  Hahahha do you really believe that?  Btw that is not the definition of terrorism.

They lost their citizenship by attempting to steal part of the country...by force.


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    #26783966 - 06/26/20 08:39 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

One doesn't lose his/her citizenship for committing a crime. The Constitution is very clear.  Why do you hate the constitution so much?


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Re: One man killed in Chopistan [Re: meltdowner]
    #26783990 - 06/26/20 08:51 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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lol my ass!  Hahahha do you really believe that?  Btw that is not the definition of terrorism.

They lost their citizenship by attempting to steal part of the country...by force.




So you support removing statues glorifying people who tried to steal part of the country by force and the flag that represented them, right? They’re not even American citizens according to you.

Don’t worry. I don’t expect any consistency from you.


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    #26784436 - 06/26/20 11:31 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Cognitive dissonance is strong in that one for sure.

He also said that the federal gov should come in and execute american citizens exercising their rights.

I dont ever want to hear a conservative argue for small gov or individual freedom
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    #26791665 - 06/29/20 09:10 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I'm going to go out on a limb and reading your OP, title, avatar and location and say you probably are race trolling.


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    #26793406 - 06/29/20 10:31 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Cognitive dissonance is strong in that one for sure.

He also said that the federal gov should come in and execute american citizens exercising their rights.

I dont ever want to hear a conservative argue for small gov or individual freedom
ever again. Bunch of fucking hypocrites.



I did not say this.


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Re: One man killed in Chopistan [Re: meltdowner]
    #26793686 - 06/30/20 04:08 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Using intimidation via weapons to take over a government building to further a political position isnt terrorism? Any proof that the chaz was taken by force?


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    #26794050 - 06/30/20 09:04 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Cognitive dissonance is strong in that one for sure.

He also said that the federal gov should come in and execute american citizens exercising their rights.

I dont ever want to hear a conservative argue for small gov or individual freedom
ever again. Bunch of fucking hypocrites.



I did not say this.



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So, you're in favor of the federal government usurping the authority of the states and executing people?



When people band together then take over sections of a country that isnt proteating anything.  Thats war.  Yes im for it in this situation.



Yes you did. Protesting is an american right. Nobody has annexed anything and
certainly nobody is at war. You're an authoritarian talking head and nothing more.

Advocating for the federal gov to come in and execute americans. The new conservative agenda.

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Re: One man killed in Chopistan [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26798229 - 07/02/20 01:11 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

CHOP has been axed!      That's my headline for today!

Taking over private property requires a swift strong reaction - or else it spreads... Like to NYC

I talked to someone last week who only follows "certain" news channels and they had no idea what has been going on in Seattle!

Fuck the BLM agenda - black nationalism must be defeated. Yes - this is a war. It's been brewing for 40 years and now it's on.


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    #26798480 - 07/02/20 04:02 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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    #26813911 - 07/09/20 10:16 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Ah, so you hate white people.


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    #26813912 - 07/09/20 10:18 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Wrong! (Trump voice)

When ypu forcefully take a peace of the USA and say no law enforcement can enter then you just waged a war with the USA.  You are no longer a citizen at that point.


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    #26814066 - 07/10/20 12:21 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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CHOP has been axed!      That's my headline for today!

Taking over private property requires a swift strong reaction - or else it spreads... Like to NYC

I talked to someone last week who only follows "certain" news channels and they had no idea what has been going on in Seattle!

Fuck the BLM agenda - black nationalism must be defeated. Yes - this is a war. It's been brewing for 40 years and now it's on.




I don't know how you came up with "40 years".  The Nation of Islam was founded on July 4th 1930. The Black Panthers were founded in the 60's. 40 years ago Ronald Reagan got elected.

In your second paragraph you advocated a race war. That's going to make you very unpopular here, except with a couple of low IQ knuckle draggers.


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Re: One man killed in Chopistan [Re: meltdowner]
    #26814242 - 07/10/20 04:11 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Wrong! (Trump voice)

When ypu forcefully take a peace of the USA and say no law enforcement can enter then you just waged a war with the USA.  You are no longer a citizen at that point.



Can you site a statute for thisnor are you just pulling this out your ass?

And vinsue said fuck a very specofic subset of white people. Nkt all whites. Your logic seems to assumenall white people are racist.


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    #26814252 - 07/10/20 04:15 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Let's try to count the number of times someone on here has said "You hate white people"

You would need an abacus.


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