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Need expert opinion on starting a new hitech farm.
    #26758436 - 06/19/20 08:00 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Hello guys .
Are there any people here who are using complete climate control to grow oysters?what are your views on using hitech systems to grow oysters?

I'm from INDIA . I am a graduate in microbiology and I have been growing oysters and cubes as a hobby for around 3-4 years now.

In India growing oyster mushrooms are advertised as a profitable business by private trainers. 99.99% of the people who get trained, dont turn out to become successful growers. Instead they themselves start to train others, creating a giant web of misinformation and loss.They want to make money training others and not growing mushrooms. As a result there are no successful and consistent growers for oysters here. people start growing and eventually they stop.

But I noticed the only people who grow consistently are Button mushroom growers who have complete climate control.
So me along with a few investors are looking to start a new hitech mushroom farm inside the city, which grows oysters/lions mane/ganoderma all the types, except buttons and ones that need compost.

Any input is appreciated regarding growing oysters/gano/lions mane under complete climate control. Is it worth doing ?


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Re: Need expert opinion on starting a new hitech farm. [Re: moods.exe]
    #26758547 - 06/19/20 08:50 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I would say yes.
Most videos I've seen of mushroom cultivation in India use formaldehyde for pasteurization. Definitely a big no no if you are trying to supply a healthy food option.


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Re: Need expert opinion on starting a new hitech farm. (moved) [Re: moods.exe]
    #26758838 - 06/20/20 12:31 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

This thread was moved from Mushroom Cultivation.

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Re: Need expert opinion on starting a new hitech farm. (moved) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26759765 - 06/20/20 12:26 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

It will definitely benefit the mushrooms. But it is not necessary to start a mushroom farm. I know nothing about India's weather conditions. You just grow the proper mushroom that would grow naturally that time of year for the temperature. Starting this way will help you because you will learn what you like to grow and what is most profitable for you. Once you know what is most profitable and what you like to grow. Then you can start with climate control for those species of mushroom. I would definitely go with a high-pressure mist for humidity control use a decent filter and you will not have to worry about the maintenance of your humidification system. Check out my build from a pressure washer. Depending on how big you plan on starting it could get you going cheap.


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Re: Need expert opinion on starting a new hitech farm. (moved) [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #26761896 - 06/21/20 12:11 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

My intention is to grow at least 50 kilograms is a day or more. I think most growers who do not adopt full climate control dont acheive that kind of production.Do they?


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Re: Need expert opinion on starting a new hitech farm. (moved) [Re: moods.exe]
    #26761902 - 06/21/20 12:14 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

That's a lot of mushrooms. Hope you have a lot of help.


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Re: Need expert opinion on starting a new hitech farm. (moved) [Re: Anastomosis]
    #26762093 - 06/21/20 02:06 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I believe button farms produce a hundred kilos a day in a 4-5000 sq ft. They are known to have around 30% BE.Wouldnt oyster mushrooms grow well in the same growing chamber since it gives close to 100% BE?

Why grow seasonally when you can grow full year 24/7 in optimum conditions, right?

We are ready to invest in a built structure with insulation and HVAC and all that.


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Re: Need expert opinion on starting a new hitech farm. (moved) [Re: moods.exe]
    #26762117 - 06/21/20 02:31 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Most businesses fail because they grow to fast. I doubt very seriously you can sell that many mushrooms that fast without even knowing the first things. There are many things to learn. I wish you the best but I think all you are going to do is throw a lot of money away.


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Re: Need expert opinion on starting a new hitech farm. (moved) [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #26762396 - 06/21/20 07:12 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Most businesses fail because they grow to fast. I doubt very seriously you can sell that many mushrooms that fast without even knowing the first things. There are many things to learn. I wish you the best but I think all you are going to do is throw a lot of money away.




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Re: Need expert opinion on starting a new hitech farm. (moved) [Re: moods.exe]
    #26762439 - 06/21/20 08:07 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I believe button farms produce a hundred kilos a day in a 4-5000 sq ft. They are known to have around 30% BE.Wouldnt oyster mushrooms grow well in the same growing chamber since it gives close to 100% BE?

Why grow seasonally when you can grow full year 24/7 in optimum conditions, right?

We are ready to invest in a built structure with insulation and HVAC and all that.




Pleurotus have very different needs from agaricus. The biggest issue with Pleurotus in India IMO will be the temps, most species of Pleurotus prefer cool temps for fruiting.


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Re: Need expert opinion on starting a new hitech farm. (moved) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26774571 - 06/22/20 03:41 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Pleurotus have very different needs from agaricus. The biggest issue with Pleurotus in India IMO will be the temps, most species of Pleurotus prefer cool temps for fruiting.




Agreed.

And when you get done pumping all this money into them, have you done all the math to see if it can even be profitable?  I just don't see how it can...


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Re: Need expert opinion on starting a new hitech farm. (moved) [Re: Forrester]
    #26781573 - 06/25/20 08:52 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Forrester mentioned the single most important thing above. Do your numbers. Tally up your expenses and your potential output and your potential capacity and create what is called a "break even analysis". This will tell you your bottom line and most importantly how much you will need to sell your mushrooms for in order to be profitable. Once you have an evaluation in hand you can begin to make the decision as to whether this is worth investing your money in. In India you absolutely are going to need climate control for growing oysters. Be sure to factor in labor too. Good luck!

I'd also suggest reading Solidarity's ancient post on this forum entitled something like How much is your shitload?
It is an entertaining read but quite valuable for putting things into perspective. If that does not intimidate you and your numbers look sound, go for it! If not, be thankful for learning that early enough to cut your losses. It is in fact possible to succeed growing mushrooms but it is not for the faint of heart or people who do nott enjoy work. Best of success in finding which way to go.


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Re: Need expert opinion on starting a new hitech farm. (moved) [Re: NPoB]
    #26782298 - 06/25/20 02:47 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

:whathesaid:

Solidarity has posted some EXCELLENT information here, I would read a lot of his posts if I were you.


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