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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: NOUS333]
    #26904353 - 08/28/20 02:30 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

So just wandering how many people actually are diagnosed with an anxiety disorder
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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: Ice9]
    #26904365 - 08/28/20 02:35 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Shit forgot self-diagnosed and no diagnosis.  My bad.


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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: Ice9]
    #26904421 - 08/28/20 02:59 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I am self diagnosed with all of em.  Mostly cuz I don’t have insurance anymore


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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: theRealrollforever]
    #26904434 - 08/28/20 03:06 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I am self diagnosed with all of em.  Mostly cuz I don’t have insurance anymore




I was self-diagnosed for years cause my anxiety made me unable to see a psychiatrist despite having health coverage.


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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: Ice9]
    #26904460 - 08/28/20 03:23 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Over 50%  of all ptsd patients can only be treated by benzos. It’s extremely important that people realize that some people just can’t be clean in that respect and benzos do save lives


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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #26904502 - 08/28/20 03:49 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I was diagnosed with generalized and social.  By multiple docs. But if you read my prior post, I was regurgitating the same old scripts in my head over and over again for years... It was all bullshit though, and it took me getting off benzos and other drugs for me to face that harsh reality.  You go into a lot of docs especially psych docs and you tell them all that classic shit they are going to diagnose you with that. Doesn't mean you have to have that diagnosis the rest of your life, and can't phase all that shit out of your head and learn new behaviors.


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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #26904503 - 08/28/20 03:50 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Over 50%  of all ptsd patients can only be treated by benzos. It’s extremely important that people realize that some people just can’t be clean in that respect and benzos do save lives




And even then they can have limited effectiveness, I have a friend with a TBI from IED in Iraq, he's on xanax and pretty big amount, but I give him premade solutions of c-lam cause at high doses it is so much more potent.


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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: NOUS333]
    #26904505 - 08/28/20 03:52 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I was diagnosed with generalized and social.  By multiple docs. But if you read my prior post, I was regurgitating the same old scripts in my head over and over again for years... It was all bullshit though, and it took me getting off benzos and other drugs for me to face that harsh reality.  You go into a lot of docs especially psych docs and you tell them all that classic shit they are going to diagnose you with that. Doesn't mean you have to have that diagnosis the rest of your life, and can't phase all that shit out of your head and learn new behaviors.




I would like to emphasize from this post that these conditions can be transient, and a time may come when you no longer need medication etc.


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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: Ice9]
    #26904586 - 08/28/20 04:42 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Self diagnosis vs being diagnosed is a class issue here in the US and really dependent on what state you live in if state health insurance covers you or not. I got my diagnosis because I was still a minor at the time and had great health insurance.


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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: Ice9] * 1
    #26904901 - 08/28/20 08:16 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I was diagnosed with generalized and social.  By multiple docs. But if you read my prior post, I was regurgitating the same old scripts in my head over and over again for years... It was all bullshit though, and it took me getting off benzos and other drugs for me to face that harsh reality.  You go into a lot of docs especially psych docs and you tell them all that classic shit they are going to diagnose you with that. Doesn't mean you have to have that diagnosis the rest of your life, and can't phase all that shit out of your head and learn new behaviors.




I would like to emphasize from this post that these conditions can be transient, and a time may come when you no longer need medication etc.




I mean ...sure...

but I really believe in most of the cases out there, people are stuck in ruts.  Mental ruts... shit like anxiety has become an ingrained belief system in a lot of people who are diagnosed with it.  If a lot of these people were given a large sum of money and told they can go do whatever they want in life, along with some supportive friends and a decent confidence boost by whatever means necessary....I think their diagnosis would vanish.  Not to say that money or friends are necessary....just saying those things would make it much easier for a person to escape their immediate circumstances which often reinforce their flawed belief system/self image. 

Worst fuckin part is, and I say this because I did this myself-for years, a lot of these people go to a doctor get diagnosed and put on benzos and find a comfort zone in that regimen... and then they defend the diagnosis and treatment with their lives... no one will ever dare tell them their might be another solution or imply that maybe they don't have to live with this forever, because it would require them to leave that comfort zone to find out... it would require HARD work, MONTHs, YEARS of WORK.  and most people are terrified of that, and when in such anxious states, don't have the self confidence to see themselves ever accomplishing such hard work. 

But I acknowledge this isn't the case for ALL anxiety sufferers.  There are many that I have met and seen, and it's just like fuck man... I feel so bad for them because you can tell they are just seriously damaged.  I still think they could possibly be helped and be able to live a life without benzos but for some the trauma/the mental ruts go much deeper than for others.


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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: NOUS333]
    #26904992 - 08/28/20 09:09 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

The psychiatric community is moving the direction of CBT due to what you see, too many people miss diagnosed or in a temporary rut put on long term treatments.


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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: Ice9]
    #26905281 - 08/28/20 11:37 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

As an ex benzo enthusiast I really think they should be an absolute last line of treatment.  I still pop one once in a while if the day is particularly stressful and I’m in a situation where I have to function while having a panick attack AND have access to a benzo, which is truly rarely.  Even then I notice my anxiety is higher than normal for a few days after the initial 12 hours of calm with something like an ok dose of diazepam.  It’s really only useful if your using them pretty sparingly IMO, or you don’t truly know how bad the anxiety you have is because really everything is compounded by a benzo habit/addiction and of course it feels awful to have your GABA system out of whack

PTSD is another issue altogether and I could definitely see more severe cases not responding to anything but pharma-therapy


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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: theRealrollforever]
    #26916368 - 09/03/20 08:39 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I still get them.

I use some natural remedies that can help calm you down, but panic attacks are a hell I never wanted to have become part of my life


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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: pickthepick]
    #26916909 - 09/04/20 07:36 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I’ve been getting them super bad the last few nights. The only thing I know that helps is to basically have my ducks in a row when it comes to life. If I have anything I’m not sure of or I’m worried about it’s just terrible and I basically lay there feeling like my chest is going to explode until I pass out.


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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: SporeJunkie] * 1
    #26917132 - 09/04/20 09:56 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Two things that took me too much time to try and use that I was told to do by more than 1 therapist :

1-Identify things that help with anxiety or panic attacks and do them whether or not you still believe they will still help (when going through a crisis).

For example, I always feel calmer if my dishes are washed and my apartment getting cleaner. When I get a panic attack or too much anxiety, I want to stay static, waiting for anxiety to go away. Getting up and doing on of those things, even if sighing doing so, never fails to help.

Showers help enormously.

Meditation also helps getting full relief while meditating, but also provides the skill to ''swipe left' on negative/anxious thoughts and concentrate on positive and encouraging thoughts. Overall, I get anxious very often, but it doesn't last days or weeks. It lasts 15-30 minutes.

2-Consistency is key. All the stuff you would periodically do for panic attacks and anxiety, you should also do them when you aren't panicking or being super anxious. Example : breathing exercises. Meditate a night where you already feel calm. Accumulate small wins and observe incremental changes in how you feel :smile:

edit : I want to add that this is from my personal experience and of close friends and I'm in no way out of the woods when it comes to anxiety and panic attacks.


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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: RebeccaBlack]
    #26917153 - 09/04/20 10:07 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

In 2011 a doctor said I have social anxiety and prescribed me lorazapam but that shit didnt help but if I took 5 id get high, it mostly went away on its own now Im not really as weird around people sometime I get a little self conscious passing someone on the sidewalk still


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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: RebeccaBlack] * 1
    #26917777 - 09/04/20 04:34 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah that’s what I mean. Even just taking a shower or brushing my teeth helps a little bit. Today I changed the oil in my truck and while aggravating ended with me feeling accomplished and just better overall.


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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: SporeJunkie]
    #26919150 - 09/05/20 12:02 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: Gypsy Boy]
    #26922757 - 09/07/20 10:05 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Etizolam is readily available online.  I take .5 mg morning and .5 at night for anxiety.  It works for me and I would never think of taking it to get high or use recreationally.  The only time I took 1.5mg I slept 12 hours.

But .5 split twice a day makes me feel normal and calm.


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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: RobZombie68]
    #26923079 - 09/07/20 01:24 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah man honestly like anger kind of gets me through panic attacks.  I go through this cycle of almost feeling like I am being attack by demonic shit or my mind is going to fast. 

I try to mitigate this shit with Ashgawanda or Skullcap.  I also use Benadryl quite a bit to knock me out/ keep me from drinking or make me pass out when I am drinking.

Alcohol causes me alot of anxiety but i can definitely say without a doubt my job causes me alot of anxiety as well.  Like Most of the time the job is chill but has alot of stress and managing a shit load of people.  Also not all the time but some times there is a very real chance of dying a horrific death so that is always kind of going on in the back of my mind to.  Its not necessarily a fear its just a constant realization of mortality. 

Like i have dealt with anxiety since my late childhood.  I believe having divorced parents kind of lead to it and then during puberty it got worse.  This of course lead to drinking.

I am now like almost addicted to stress in a way.  Its a cycle of extreme confiedence almost feeling like i am on adderall but while sober this plateaus for a while then that leads to a stagnation which leads to a depression which leads to me being pissed off that I am depressed and then it starts to turn back into the adderall high type shit again.   

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