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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: zZZz] * 1
    #26783610 - 06/26/20 03:50 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Took the responsility of my own well being to my self. Stopped eating benzos and started clean diet, excersice. Meditation helps you to learn not to attach to every though that pops up. Nature does good to me. So does yoga.

Stopped substance abusing all so!


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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: LeningradCowboy] * 1
    #26783662 - 06/26/20 04:48 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: zZZz] * 2
    #26783675 - 06/26/20 05:00 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

:heart: LUV YOU TOO!:heart:

And same to you! You are one of the gems shining constant love to other members!


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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: zZZz]
    #26902448 - 08/27/20 01:55 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Anxiety sufferer here as well. I’ve tried therapy, anti anxiety meds, exercise. The only thing that works is cognitive behavioral therapy or basically just facing fears. If you run from them, the fear grows.

Also, lifestyle changes where possible.

I’m currently in a bout of anxiety now where I literally wake up nightly an hour after falling asleep and I’m so panicked and feel like I’m going to loose my mind. It’s a terribly scary thing. I have been considering taking some stuff from <link removed>


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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic] * 1
    #26902454 - 08/27/20 01:57 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Let them come, and you will realize they already have passed.

Resisting is the worst thing you can do.


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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: The Mycologist]
    #26902509 - 08/27/20 02:40 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I was having these panic attacks from phenibut and didn’t even know it. Been clean from it for about 45-50 days now. I occasionally have them creep up but I just try to distract myself and they go away. I appreciate you guys. I started working out/playing basketball again and trying to eat healthy as well.


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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26902535 - 08/27/20 02:58 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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So Im so done bitching about this anymore, sorry. I finally was able to “fight off” my first panic attack that was already in a bad way. Please give me some tips and some love here. Seriously. This shit can seriously fuck your life up.

Im going to start meditating, any pointers?

Im going to get better sleep (already started,) and eat better (more.) Not trying to be all debby downer super serious (cereal) but damn this shit sucks. I started to feel like im going crazy. Thanks for your time. I have no other on the surface mental health issues.




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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26902559 - 08/27/20 03:07 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I didn't stop having them.


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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: psi] * 1
    #26902574 - 08/27/20 03:16 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

To those who say benzos, shame on you.

Use guided meditation podcasts on Youtube or Spotify or whatever.

Exercice a little bit more everyday. You can start small like 25 jumping jacks and add 15-25 per day and progressively add more.

Write down your stream of thought when anxious. Your mind can't go faster than you can write it down if you do so, IME.

Sure, benzos give you a sense of relief, but you'll never have control over your anxiety and panic attacks if you go down that road.

I have been on benzos for 6 years and the rebound anxiety was such that I had as much anxiety attacks in between benzo doses than I do now without benzos.

All the answers/solution you don't want to do because they are harder and don't give relief as soon as you start are actually the real solution/answers you're looking for.


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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: psi]
    #26902599 - 08/27/20 03:35 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

What are your symptoms of anxiety? Mine was from phenibut which I’ve since quit, and doing so much better. I still have a fear of having panic attacks sometimes, albeit minimal but that fear has caused me to have symptoms of attacks creeping up. It’s weird.


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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26902601 - 08/27/20 03:36 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

It’s hard to even read what I was writing. I was in a really rough place. Scared me away from most drugs, seriously....


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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26902606 - 08/27/20 03:40 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Teeth clenching, shortness of breath, Tourettes like cursing, etc.


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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26902883 - 08/27/20 06:37 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I used to have severe panic attacks from when I was a kid, on and off since. The way I've dealt with it as an adult was through my own version of exposure therapy. Thats only if I knew exactly what the trigger was, like my head on collision. I couldn't drive for almost a year without shaking terribly and hyperventilating. So I did easy drives around the neighborhood and to close places, as if I was learning to drive all over again. Id give myself ample time to mentally prepare before even getting in the car. The most recent episodes of extreme anxiety would be cause of the pandemic and just leaving the house. I was high risk at the time, live in an area where people weren't taking it seriously. I had trouble just getting past my front door. It was a pretty bad case of agoraphobia. The only solution was to just push myself and get things done because if I didn't the people I care for suffer. Its that thought that helped me keep focus without falling apart. Sometimes it takes extreme modes of thinking like that to get through the day unfortunately.

I also used psychs to confront my traumas head on, which helped tremendously. I have to admit its quite complicated to do and you have to be brutally honest with yourself. Peeling away the layers of who you are and a lifetime of experiences. That in itself can be quite traumatic but worth it imo. It can a be a needle in the haystack kind of thing though, especially if you don't know whats causing said panic attacks. Mine used to be so extreme that I literally felt like someone was choking me and I couldn't breathe.

After my many trips I haven't had a severe panic attack like that since. My lastest episode was last year but it was pretty mild by comparison from the ones I used to have. I know it why it happened, the trigger and everything. It was a moment of extreme stress and was dealing with a number of health issues at the time so it just all compounded together. Perfect storm of events for it to trigger.

Anyways I never took prescription meds for my anxiety or panic attacks because I always had alternative ways to deal with it. I admittedly was drinking heavily before psychs came into the picture but once they did I was able to let go of my unhealthy habits of coping. Its why I'll be a lifelong psychonaut. Its only in the psychedelic experience where I can do the most mental work and come out of it a better person each time. And my most productive trips always came from solo tripping personally. Not to say you can't get the same with groups or a partner but it takes a special kind of chemistry for that to work ideally, the right synergy and mindsets. When you solo trip for this purpose, you remove any outsiders who might influence the trip itself and or become a blocker from you being able to dig deeper into yourself. Coincidentally with the right person, a trip sitter/trip partner may help guide you even better than you could yourself. It really depends on you and what your needs are.

I think it all comes down to having as many tools as possible to alleviate it. For some people prescribed medicines work, therapy, having someone to talk to, etc. I believe creating a strong support system is what will ultimately help anyone suffering from these horrible conditions. Positive feedback loops, reinforcement. I learned how to meditate from a young age. I know how to tune things out and compartmentalize really well. After many years of cannabis use, I know exactly how to get a positive effect without it being detrimental. These crucial skills have allowed me to function and stay reasonably grounded, despite going through some seriously traumatic events.

A part of me always wanted to become a psychiatrist and dose people, help create a framework for psychedelic therapy but I live in America and school is expensive :lol: Its nice to see some headway being made on that front. So much positive news has come out in recent time. Hopefully by the next decade it'll be a part of treatment options everywhere :awesome:

To everyone, practice self care, try to put yourself first! Treat yourself, give yourself a break if you're able to. Stay healthy fellow shroomerites :hug:


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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: Cosmic_Flame] * 1
    #26903007 - 08/27/20 07:33 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Some good advice in here, Daijo I know for many people benzos become a monster in the closet but for lots of others they can be truly beneficial, don't villainize em cause both of us can't control ourselves around them.

Another good practice, I didn't read all replies apologies if this was already mentioned, is setting an extremely strict sleep schedule.  I work second shift.  I set a schedule of going to bed at 1:30am (in bed by then prep begins at 1) and wake up no matter how tired i'm feeling at 9:30 to 10 AM, no alarm clock just when I come to consciousness I get out of bed, drink a big glass of water, put the coffee on and hit the shower.  It has really helped both my anxiety and depression at the same time.  As always results will vary. Best of luck to you, panic attacks are no joke and can be totally debilitating.


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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: Ice9]
    #26903197 - 08/27/20 09:11 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I breathe. Slow, smooth, long, deep breaths through my nose.

Wonderful for morning traffic.


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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic] * 1
    #26904158 - 08/28/20 12:58 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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It’s hard to even read what I was writing. I was in a really rough place. Scared me away from most drugs, seriously....




Yep, I get confused as hell. My mind goes in every direction, inventing scenarios faster than I can imagine how to deal with them, I get sweaty hands and feet, then the face then the whole body. I keep stopping my breath without noticing. My eyelids, face muscles, members and fingers are trembling. I want to puke + diarrhea.

It's worse when it's what I describe as physical anxiety (drug related, rebound anxiety, lack of sleep-related anxiety). When you get over the physical stuff, which straight up sucks and takes time (I had help of my doctor with a cpam taper to get off kratom I was abusing for anxiety, and it still sucked for a good 3-4 weeks), it gets easier and crisis go by much quicker.

I only started to see real progress when I got desperate and started doing all of what I thought to be hippy bullshit.

Check out Calming Anxiety and Tracks to Relax on Spotify, Patreon, iTunes Podcasts and such.

@ice9 Ice9 is right saying benzos can be beneficial to some. As far as I know, benzos have been withdrawn in most countries as many studies have shown a rate of addiction of 30% after 1 month of 0.5mg cpam/day and no long term decrease in anxiety after the treatment is stopped. If I remember correctly, the UK has 4 active legal Xanax prescriptions.

It is true tho that I am saying not to go down that road because I wish I didn't. I feel like it slowed me down. I didn't feel the need to learn how to deal with anxiety and I would indulge in anxiogenic drugs just because I had benzos to curb the edge.


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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: RebeccaBlack]
    #26904162 - 08/28/20 12:59 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Cut sugar/caffeine and exercise or dance.


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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: LeningradCowboy] * 1
    #26904261 - 08/28/20 01:43 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Took the responsility of my own well being to my self. Stopped eating benzos and started clean diet, excersice. Meditation helps you to learn not to attach to every though that pops up. Nature does good to me. So does yoga.

Stopped substance abusing all so!




This. 

When I had anxiety I lived so attached to every thought.  I still have this problem but it is much easier to recognize when I'm dealing with it. Usually I get it in the mornings, when I wake up and I am really tired and I keep thinking about all the things I can't do and why I can't do them and why nothing will work out, and before I would listen to that shit and go back to bed.  Now I remind myself that those thoughts are temporary observations of the awareness within myself, within THAT MOMENT, and if me - my soul- whatever it is that has the ability to push through and will myself forward, if I do that, and just push myself to take a shower and think about how it COULD work out, within 15-30 min I find myself going through this metamorphosis and I transition from a pessimistic anxious/scared state to a optimistic couragous/fearless state. 

I don't even recognize myself in the mirror anymore. I do shit and it's just new. all the time.  Every moment is new.  Thoughts relative to the moment are powerful.  I think most people are stuck associating things in their moment to things in the past or they are anticipating the future based on their past experiences and that is just not necessarily how life is meant to unfold.  Sure we benefit from learning from our experiences and avoiding certain things, but we also benefit just as much from reaching out into the random and discovering new things.  I think those who suffer a lot from anxiety spend too much time mulling over how things have been, and will/be instead of envisioning positive/different/new outcomes.  But its understandable.  This can be hard if surrounded by other people/places/situations that seem to just be repetitive bullshit stuck in a cycle that has become predictable. 

But yeah. I think finding the moment and the lead train-car in your train of thoughts is the way to discover limitless potential and complete freedom from anxiety... if anything one might get anxious due to being overwhelmed with possibilities.  And by lead train car in your train of thoughts, I mean... you are always in this moment.  your thoughts are a sequence, a train of ideas/emotions/memories/desires/frustrations etc.  These were always formulated in your past when your awareness was riding the first variable in the sequence, the first train car.  When your essence was one with your awareness.  If you have your essence, your self, your self image, your potential etc. tied up in the middle of the sequence-in anything not occurring right now, you are bringing into existence/formulating/writing your reality blindly.  Whether consciously or subconsciously you are say, focusing on how you can't be around a lot of people or talk to people because you never have been able to etc. - that is all just a script in your head that is going to cause you to continue avoidant behavior.  And then once you are removed from the pressure of deciding to confront the thing you are avoiding or flee from it, you will enforce that script by saying to yourself 'see, I just can't do it'.  "thats just how I am"... And you are right! So long as you tell yourself that, that's just how you are!

But if you tell yourself you have the potential to do what you haven't always been able to do, if you can see yourself in a new light, and ride the first train car with courage, you will pierce through your old limitations and become something new.

I think what makes it so hard for us all is that it is difficult to imagine things we haven't seen/experienced yet, sometimes. If you've never been a social butterfly, it just isn't natural for you to go around imagining yourself as one, seeing yourself conversate like a tv show host or something... life is never really like that... We gain confidence, and insight about our abilities as we observe ourselves tackling new challenges, which we often don't ask for or intentionally move towards.  We just get confronted, we react because our awareness is spiked, its aligned with our essence because we are 100% in the moment and preoccupied with sustaining ourselves and when we overcome the challenge we feel joy and take a breath like "holy shit I did it, I did it and I CAN DO IT AGAIN" And then we are doing it all the time within a week wondering where that barrier is that kept us from ever doing it before, it doesn't exist! It was made of the thoughts in our head- which don't exist- or it was the result of us never having been forced to confront the challenge directly. we might have only thought about confronting the challenge and pre-supposed what that would be like. 


K.... I'm done.  Could talk all day about this..


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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: budmanman]
    #26904279 - 08/28/20 01:55 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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how do u get the benzos I tried they only wanna give me ssris




Try the SSRIs, complain about the side effects, ask to be put on a new one, eventually they run out. (research the common bad side-effects of each first so it sounds convincing) side-effect, you may just get put on an SSRI that really helps with minimal to no adverse effects.


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Re: How did you stop having panic/anxiety attacks? [Re: Ice9]
    #26904291 - 08/28/20 02:01 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Ice9 said:
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budmanman said:
how do u get the benzos I tried they only wanna give me ssris




Try the SSRIs, complain about the side effects, ask to be put on a new one, eventually they run out. (research the common bad side-effects of each first so it sounds convincing) side-effect, you may just get put on an SSRI that really helps with minimal to no adverse effects.



lol  'benzo enthusiast' 

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