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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: HamHead]
#26989496 - 10/17/20 02:41 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: No... one thing doesn’t lead to another. You don’t understand what you’re talking about. Low levels of oxygen do not lead to high levels of CO2 or visa versa. Low levels of oxygen and high levels of CO2 can both be caused by poor gas exchange in the lungs, but one does not cause the other.
https://www.healthline.com/health/copd/hypoxia#complications
"Hypoxia can also lead to a condition called hypercapnia. This occurs when the lungs retain too much carbon dioxide due to breathing difficulties."
Misinformation alright.
Yeah that’s not exactly right.
The second sentence explains why carbon dioxide builds up. This is the same mechanism why oxygen levels would be too low. Low oxygen levels do not cause high CO2 levels. If you think they do, please explain the mechanism
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: HamHead]
#26989499 - 10/17/20 02:43 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: From what I’ve seen in individual state data, suicides are down in 2020, in some cases significantly.
Until you start providing links to back up your claims, I'm not going to believe a single word you say.
I already did. It’s the cdc excess mortality data portal.
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: koods]
#26989502 - 10/17/20 02:45 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: From what I’ve seen in individual state data, suicides are down in 2020, in some cases significantly.
Until you start providing links to back up your claims, I'm not going to believe a single word you say.
I already did. It’s the cdc excess mortality data portal.
Specifically suicides being down?
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: HamHead]
#26989509 - 10/17/20 03:03 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you don’t know how to find suicide data how are you making claims about suicide rates?
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: koods]
#26989699 - 10/17/20 07:52 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: If you don’t know how to find suicide data how are you making claims about suicide rates?
I'm asking you to provide links. You're the one making claims that suicides are down, so I'm asking you to provide evidence.
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: HamHead]
#26989701 - 10/17/20 07:53 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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No you’re the one making claims it is up
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: koods]
#26989711 - 10/17/20 08:09 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: HamHead]
#26989727 - 10/17/20 08:29 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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First article doesn’t contain actual suicide data Second article is two years old Third and fourth cover the same topic twice: 20% increase in military suicide Firth article has no data about current suicides rates Six article has no data about current suicide rates
Idaho, no change in rate this year: https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-pandemics-idaho-boise-92f332001e5523c616bafbdfacbd50b3
Suicide down in Colorado this year: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.denverpost.com/2020/10/11/colorado-covid-death-toll/amp/
Wisconsin Suicide down from 495 in first seven months at year to 415 first seven months this year: https://wisconsinexaminer.com/brief/suicide-rates-already-climbing-in-wisconsin-spike-during-the-pandemic/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/fox11online.com/amp/news/coronavirus/a-closer-look-at-wisconsins-leading-causes-of-death-in-2020
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: koods]
#26989736 - 10/17/20 08:37 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Chester county PA 40 suicides through August 2020, two more than last year. https://chesco.org/209/Coroner
Except for the military I’m not seeing any spike in suicides. Either the same or lower:
Alaska is down from last year as well but now I can’t find the article.
I’ve privided enough data
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: koods]
#26989751 - 10/17/20 08:48 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Between March and August, 597 Coloradans died of overdoses, which is up 40% from the 3-year-average of 424 deaths, according to the state data.
Idaho: Gov. Brad Little announced that he is extending Stage 4 of Idaho’s reopening plan and that the state will move to a regional response going forward. Under Stage 4, gatherings of any size are permitted, but people should practice social distancing and follow hygiene recommendations. While businesses may resume operations, they should adhere to social distancing and sanitation recommendations.
In May, the Wisconsin Supreme Court struck down the state Department of Health Services’ safer-at-home order, issued under Evers’ direction. The governor issued a statement in response to the ruling, asking Wisconsinites to continue to do their part to stop the spread of the coronavirus. Private businesses can enforce their own restrictions, such as requiring patrons to follow social distancing practices.
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I gather suicides have not gone up in those states with minimal covid restrictions.
Makes sense too, no mass job loss, no hysteria or panic of how they will pay bills or eat, life goes on.
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: HamHead]
#26989771 - 10/17/20 09:06 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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You can’t just blame overdose increases on the pandemic. The drug supply has a lot to do with how many overdoses there are. The end of last year saw levels close to the current rate.
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: koods]
#26989775 - 10/17/20 09:11 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: You can’t just blame overdose increases on the pandemic. The drug supply has a lot to do with how many overdoses there are. The end of last year saw levels close to the current rate.
Would you consider overdosing a possible method of suicide?
Honestly?
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: koods]
#26989782 - 10/17/20 09:18 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: You can’t just blame overdose increases on the pandemic. The drug supply has a lot to do with how many overdoses there are. The end of last year saw levels close to the current rate.
I half expect hamhead to blame all the recent droughts and fires on masks trapping humidity from peoples' breath and making the air too dry.
Junkies don't die because they're sad about the economy, they die because what they took was stronger than what their body is used to, which these days is typically fent pressed in fake pills or dope/coke cut too strongly with fent analogs.
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: HamHead]
#26989783 - 10/17/20 09:18 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Drug supply is down and cost is way up. Especially on drugs that you actually can overdose on
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: bodhisatta]
#26989785 - 10/17/20 09:20 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quality and potency are down too
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: bodhisatta]
#26989791 - 10/17/20 09:23 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Drug supply is down and cost is way up. Especially on drugs that you actually can overdose on
In my state it's easier to buy a bag of a fent analog than flavored tobacco. The addicts here don't even test positive for dope anymore, it's all fentanyl.
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: feevers]
#26990138 - 10/17/20 02:02 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Fent has been most of what there is for Longer than covid. Now its just worse. Probably because it's easier to import from china clandestinely due to volume of traffic between them and north america as well as fent being so strong its chemically dense
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