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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: koods]
    #26987578 - 10/15/20 07:39 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

The National Aquarium's fish must be healthy AF.


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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #26987579 - 10/15/20 07:41 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

That’s in Baltimore



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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: koods]
    #26987581 - 10/15/20 07:43 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Oops. Should have spent two more seconds looking at Wikipedia.


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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: koods]
    #26987583 - 10/15/20 07:48 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

What's your point, 99.9% will survive, so what's with all the fear mongering and calling states losers?

I guess Mississippi is a loser state too, lifting mask mandates.

Florida as well, all mask fines dismissed. 100% operational capacity.

What other states are losers, koods? Idaho? Arizona?

By calling states losers, you're insulting a large number of people. People you've never met.

That's not nice.

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How is it that DC, which is entirely urban has nearly a 20x lower infection rate then South Dakota, which is almost entirely rural?




From my understanding, DC is a small area, 61 square miles, nestled between Maryland and Virgina.

So, IMO, those two states should be in focus as well, considering people commute to work and I bet you many people working in DC don't actually live in DC.


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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: HamHead]
    #26987698 - 10/15/20 09:41 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Most people are working from home. We don’t even have a rush hour anymore. It’s glorious.

Not sure what your logic is. DC area is pretty much the same.



South Dakota is 93


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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: koods] * 1
    #26987714 - 10/15/20 10:00 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Here’s a list of states ranked by per capita cases for the entire pandemic

South Dakota is the fourth highest. I’m not sure why you decided to pick South Dakota as a example of a state that’s doing it right. I guess it’s just another example of hamhead being a hamhead



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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: koods]
    #26987718 - 10/15/20 10:06 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)



South Dakota has just over 300 deaths. No mask mandates, no stay at home orders.

Florida has the third largest population in USA with population over 20.6 million, which accounts for 6.38% of the US population.



:teareally:

.0004%?


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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: HamHead]
    #26987728 - 10/15/20 10:13 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Your math is terrible


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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: koods]
    #26987733 - 10/15/20 10:21 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Your math is terrible



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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: HamHead]
    #26987736 - 10/15/20 10:23 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

No really it is. I’ll let you figure out your mistake so you learn


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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: koods]
    #26987933 - 10/16/20 04:45 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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No really it is. I’ll let you figure out your mistake so you learn




Nope, looks to be correct. .0004% of Florida's population dies each day due to complications brought on by Coronavirus 19.

Anyone want to take a gander at excess mortality and see how we're on par for 2018 and 2019?


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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: HamHead]
    #26988218 - 10/16/20 10:54 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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No really it is. I’ll let you figure out your mistake so you learn




Nope, looks to be correct. .0004% of Florida's population dies each day due to complications brought on by Coronavirus 19.

Anyone want to take a gander at excess mortality and see how we're on par for 2018 and 2019?





In your excess mortality comparison, please use statistics to disambiguate the effect that lockdowns, job losses, less traffic i.e. all other contributing factors had on the total mortality rate, then recalculate for the excess mortality rate due to covid-19, after controlling for all other factors.  Thanks math wiz.


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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: Ice9]
    #26989181 - 10/16/20 08:59 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

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No really it is. I’ll let you figure out your mistake so you learn




Nope, looks to be correct. .0004% of Florida's population dies each day due to complications brought on by Coronavirus 19.

Anyone want to take a gander at excess mortality and see how we're on par for 2018 and 2019?





In your excess mortality comparison, please use statistics to disambiguate the effect that lockdowns, job losses, less traffic i.e. all other contributing factors had on the total mortality rate, then recalculate for the excess mortality rate due to covid-19, after controlling for all other factors.  Thanks math wiz.




https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/09/29/covid-19-linked-to-rising-suicide-rates-among-teens/

"The rise in suicide cases, though, was most pronounced among the nation’s youths. While 11% of respondents to the CDC survey had “seriously considered” suicide in the past month, that same figure jumps to 25% for people aged 18 to 24—a deeply worrisome statistic to health officials across the country.

According to CDC data, suicide is the second-leading cause of death among young people aged 10 to 24. The effects of isolation are heightening this trend. The closure of schools and other social meeting spots youth normally frequent has forced students to stay confined to their homes, increasing the rates of anxiety, depression, and suicidal thoughts for people of this age group."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stress_(biology)

"Infectious
Some studies have observed increased risk of upper respiratory tract infection during chronic life stress. In patients with HIV, increased life stress and cortisol was associated with poorer progression of HIV.[31]

Chronic disease
A link has been suggested between chronic stress and cardiovascular disease.[31] Stress appears to play a role in hypertension, and may further predispose people to other conditions associated with hypertension.[35] Stress may also precipitate a more serious, or relapse into abuse of alcohol.[4] Stress may also contribute to aging and chronic diseases in aging, such as depression and metabolic disorders.[36]"

https://www.disabledveterans.org/2020/03/11/flu-vaccine-increases-coronavirus-risk/

"Influenza Vaccine: Military Study Shows 36% Higher Odds Of Coronavirus, 2017-2018"

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db355-h.pdf

In 2018, a total of 2,839,205 resident deaths were registered in the United States—25,702 more
deaths than in 2017.

So far this year, 2.39 million Americans have died of all causes.

https://www.indexmundi.com/clocks/indicator/deaths/united-states

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: HamHead] * 1
    #26989224 - 10/16/20 09:47 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

You need to show you're work to get credit... also I asked for you to correct for those figures, not just find them.  Alas, you seem to be at the point at which you can no longer proceed with my request due to lack of knowledge.  That's ok, there aren't too many people who can actually do that and quickly.  It requires knowledge of manipulation of massive data sets.  If your into that type of thing I suggest learning informatics and learning both SQL and Python so you can make your own.  It also opens doors to very lucrative jobs (200k+ with experience) more if you can build the integrated database.


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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: Ice9]
    #26989254 - 10/16/20 10:19 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Right at the top of the website hamhead is using as a source for the number of deaths so far this year:

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Note: Numbers on this page do not include deaths due to COVID-19. Our estimates are based on deaths reported before the pandemic started. Check our coronavirus section for information about daily and total deaths caused by the virus.




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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: koods]
    #26989292 - 10/16/20 11:03 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Here are the actual numbers from the CDC. You can download the data yourself https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm



There have been 276,000 more deaths this year than would be expected. That is an increase in overall national mortality of 13% for the year so far.

If you exclude the prepandemic months of January and February, there have been 279,000 excess deaths since there were actually 3000 fewer deaths than would be expected in January and February. Since the pandemic began there has been a 17% increase in overall mortality in the US

If you look at the second week of March to the second week of May, there was a 25% increase in overall mortality.

The worst week of the pandemic was April 11, which saw mortality rates spike 40% above normal.

You can try to downplay this disease, but a 13% increase in mortality is unprecedented in the past century. Mortality figures are very predictable.

Imagine there were 276,000 more murders in the US than last year. People would lose their minds.


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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: koods]
    #26989296 - 10/16/20 11:09 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Not if it was mostly old people being murdered, apparently.


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    #26989306 - 10/16/20 11:21 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Of course we know that would be the most upsetting to people.

I’m actually impressed with the work the CDC has done to get this data online. There are a ton of mortality datasets available for download now.


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    #26989319 - 10/16/20 11:36 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

The Left: "Socialized Medicine!"

The Right: "Death Panels! The Left want's to kill your Meemaw and Peepaw!"

The Left: "Pandemic, y'all!  Hunker down!"

The Right: "Fuck Meemaw and Peepaw!"


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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: Ice9]
    #26989356 - 10/17/20 12:15 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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You need to show you're work to get credit... also I asked for you to correct for those figures, not just find them.  Alas, you seem to be at the point at which you can no longer proceed with my request due to lack of knowledge.  That's ok, there aren't too many people who can actually do that and quickly.  It requires knowledge of manipulation of massive data sets.  If your into that type of thing I suggest learning informatics and learning both SQL and Python so you can make your own.  It also opens doors to very lucrative jobs (200k+ with experience) more if you can build the integrated database.




Data changes constantly, making it impossible to have any idea of how many have actually been 'infected'.

Over 8 million reported cases. How many do you think have actually been infected? Way over 8 million, I guarantee.

If this is something that's so difficult to understand, I can not help you.

I would throw a random number, 60,000,000 have been infected. Let's do some math now.



I did you a favor and added some deaths, we're just under 223k.

Also, added another 40 million infection, to total a little over 1/3 of US population, about 339mil.

These are random numbers.



So far, covid has claimed .06% of US population. Supposedly, considering only 6% of those died of covid alone, the remaining 94% had on average 2.6 underlying comorbidities.

And there are strong arguments to be made that many of those were already on their way out, being a high percentage of people dying are elderly or those with other health issues, which many are excrabated by common colds and were told to stay home until symptoms got bad enough to seek hospitalization.

Also, can't forget about how many regular schedule appointments were cancelled and postponed, how many prescriptions that were missed or late or never filled.

All the while, we were told to stay inside and not dick was said about vitamins.

When data is out that vitamin D will reduce death rates by half.

Old people sitting in nursing home rooms with only ambient sunlight getting little fresh air and little human contact, isolated from loved ones, left to die alone.

It's odd how deaths suddenly spike right after stay at home orders were put in place. It's clear as day in NYC, it goes way up then rigbt back down. And we all know about nursing homes in NYC. 33k deaths in NY alone. It's almost like people were panicked and stressed out from not knowing how they're going to feed themselves.


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