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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: koods]
    #26924158 - 09/08/20 06:04 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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You said HCQ doesn’t work if you’re already sick so. Remdesivir is only used if you’re already in the hospital.




Remdesivir is being proven not to be effective either. Not many drugs are, once a viral infection is far enough along. It as well is recommended to be given ASAP, though being a more dangerous drug than HCQ.

Edit. If it was showing to be effective, it would be all over the news as 'the cure'.

But, they don't do that because one, billions of dollars are already invested into vaccines and two, it's not working as well as they had hoped or predicted.

Asked morrowasted about Remdesivir causing liver toxicity and he won't answer me.

600mg Remdesivir for a 5 day protocol cost $3000.


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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: HamHead]
    #26985928 - 10/14/20 07:59 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Oh yeah, it's relevant.

https://hcqtrial.com/


Figure 1. Adjusted deaths per million for countries using widespread early HCQ versus those that do not, with a prediction for the following 90 days. As of October 10, 2020, countries using early HCQ are predicted to have a 72.3% lower death rate after adjustments.

"Many countries either adopted or declined early treatment with HCQ, effectively forming a large trial with 1.8 billion people in the treatment group and 663 million in the control group. As of October 10, 2020, an average of 87.0 per million in the treatment group have died, and 494.5 per million in the control group, relative risk 0.176. After adjustments, treatment and control deaths become 182.0 per million and 746.7 per million, relative risk 0.24. The probability of an equal or lower relative risk occurring from random group assignments is 0.023. Accounting for predicted changes in spread, we estimate a relative risk of 0.28. The treatment group has a 72.3% lower death rate. Confounding factors affect this estimate. We examined diabetes, obesity, hypertension, life expectancy, population density, urbanization, BCG vaccine use, testing level, and intervention level, which do not account for the effect observed."

Whoa, that's all I'm going to post from this site, it goes DEEP. Way too big of a wall of text to be copy/pasting.

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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: HamHead] * 1
    #26985960 - 10/14/20 08:18 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Even the president doesn’t care anymore

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: koods]
    #26985970 - 10/14/20 08:23 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Even the president doesn’t care anymore




Perhaps, if POTUS had continued taking HCQ, like 200mg/week, he may not have become infected.


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: HamHead] * 1
    #26985986 - 10/14/20 08:36 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Most privileged guy in the world didn’t get your prescription.

You are so fucking smart. The world doesn’t deserve you.


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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: HamHead]
    #26985996 - 10/14/20 08:46 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Even the president doesn’t care anymore




Perhaps, if POTUS had continued taking HCQ, like 200mg/week, he may not have become infected.



You said HCQ was used to treat it not prevent it. Anyway, ya boy Trump doesn't buy into this bullshit anymrore. The pill made from dead fetus is the new hype. Alternative facts have made you behind on the times.


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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: ONE OZ SLUG]
    #26986010 - 10/14/20 08:58 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Most privileged guy in the world didn’t get your prescription.

You are so fucking smart. The world doesn’t deserve you.




He got what FDA approved as EUA, Remdesivir, as well as other drugs under expanded access, Regenerons drug cocktail. Had HCQ been authorized for use, what would a 72.3% lower death rate look like in USA?

:rush:

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Even the president doesn’t care anymore




Perhaps, if POTUS had continued taking HCQ, like 200mg/week, he may not have become infected.



You said HCQ was used to treat it not prevent it. Anyway, ya boy Trump doesn't buy into this bullshit anymrore. The pill made from dead fetus is the new hype. Alternative facts have made you behind on the times.




Sure, early treatments at first signs of symptoms, HCQ + ZINC with an antibiotic incase of bacterial infections. Also prophylactic use.

What it's not useful for, as well as many other antivirals, Remdesivir included which is why POTUS got Remdesivir early, is treating someone who is well (5-7 days) into an infection with multiple symptoms.


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: HamHead]
    #26986040 - 10/14/20 09:17 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Once the US stopped using HCQ the mortality rate dropped


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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: koods]
    #26986065 - 10/14/20 09:30 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Once the US stopped using HCQ the mortality rate dropped




US never adopted HCQ use as a prophylactic.

Like, no duh.


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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: HamHead] * 1
    #26986549 - 10/15/20 07:25 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: One of Us]
    #26986807 - 10/15/20 10:41 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

The state’s hydroxychloroquine trial was discontinued Friday morning by Sanford Health after the publication of new research from a larger controlled trial showed the drug had no efficacy in preventing COVID-19 for people exposed to the virus.

Results from a study by the University of Minnesota, which had a similar design to the planned South Dakota trial, found no benefit of hydroxychloroquine as a post-exposure preventive therapy to the drug.

MINNEAPOLIS, MN- June 3, 2020

He said state government received 187,200 tablets for free from the federal government

Yeah, 187,200 tablets is a shit ton.

Your links are old.


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: HamHead] * 1
    #26986845 - 10/15/20 11:08 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Of course I know the links are a bit old, I live in South Dakota. She (Governor Noem) was actually given over a million HCQ tablets, a crazy amount considering the population of SD. There were more pills than people.

PS I'm pretty sure she sucks Trumps lil pp. She's even campaigning for him now.

“Then, be able to get a relationship with the federal government that when you call them up, and pick up the phone and say I need 1.2 million doses of hydroxy[chloroquine] and they literally get it here within two days… that wouldn’t happen in any other state. I think that’s what’s special about South Dakota.” -Governor Noem

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: One of Us]
    #26986862 - 10/15/20 11:18 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Is hydroxychloroquine as good as chloroquine phosphate for treating aquariums? Maybe they can give those pills to the aquariums in their respective states.


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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #26987484 - 10/15/20 06:24 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Published on April 16, 2020

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2020/09/25/south-dakota-arizona-governors-resist-coronavirus-restrictions-as-cases-rise/

"Sep 25, 2020,02:12pm EDT

South Dakota has no coronavirus restrictions in place, favoring a response based on personal risk and responsibility, and the Sioux Falls Argus Leader reports Noem has “no plans” to impose a mask-wearing mandate or stay at home order, as the state experiences its worst month for Covid-19 metrics since the pandemic began."



I mean, no restrictions, no mask mandates, just over 300 deaths, 304 currently in South Dakota.

The current population of South Dakota is estimated at 858,469



https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/05/trump-coronavirus-who-global-death-rate-false-number

Thu 5 Mar 2020 14.07 EST

Donald Trump declared live on television on Wednesday night that he did not believe the World Health Organization’s assessment of the global death rate from coronavirus of 3.4%.

“I think the 3.4% is really a false number,” he told Sean Hannity, one of his favorite conservative Fox News hosts, in a phone interview broadcast live.

“Now, this is just my hunch,” Trump began, before continuing that “based on a lot of conversations with a lot of people that do this, because a lot of people will have this, and it’s very mild – they’ll get better very rapidly, they don’t even see a doctor, they don’t even call a doctor.”

He went on: “You never hear about those people, so you can’t put them down in the category of the overall population, in terms of this corona flu, and/or virus. So you just can’t do that.”


He then plucked his own surmising of a likely death rate out of the air.

“You know, all of a sudden it seems like 3 or 4%, which is a very high number, as opposed to a fraction of 1%,” he said, perhaps referring to the typical death rate for influenza, which is well below 1%.

Trump said: “But again, they don’t know about the easy cases because the easy cases don’t go to the hospital. They don’t report to doctors or the hospital in many cases. So I think that that number is very high. I think the number, personally, I would say the number is way under 1%.”

Since we're allowing old shit to be brought up I guess.

:canthelpbutlaugh:

Imagine if simply vitamin D was pushed back in march. March 5th, before stay at home orders went into effects. How about vitamin C? Zinc lozenges?

While Dr. Fauci did this early March.



No mention of cloth face coverings, very common place while mask were short in supply. :shrug:

I even made a thread, t shirt face coverings, because before I educated myself, I too thought mask could protect me from a virus.

But this thread is about HCQ and don't want to steer off topic.

Dr. Fauci rejected HCQ, and now we have entire countries using it with great success. Look at India. Where HCQ is made.


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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: HamHead]
    #26987512 - 10/15/20 06:46 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

South Dakota has one of the highest per capita new case counts

DC and South Dakota have similar populations and South Dakota has almost ten times the number of new cases.

Thanks for pointing that out

Wear a fucking mask. Don’t be a loser state like South Dakota


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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: koods]
    #26987520 - 10/15/20 06:52 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Correction: South Dakota has 20 times the number of new cases.

DC had 34 new cases today. South Dakota had almost 800.

Everyone in DC wears a mask. Don’t be a loser like South Dakota


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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: koods]
    #26987538 - 10/15/20 07:02 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Red states should have the lowest infections rates since they tend to have lower population density. Even with that going for them, they are doing considerably worse than blue states.


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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #26987546 - 10/15/20 07:07 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

How is it that DC, which is entirely urban has nearly a 20x lower infection rate then South Dakota, which is almost entirely rural?


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    #26987575 - 10/15/20 07:34 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Must be Antifa spraying weaponized Rona from Soros-owned invisible hoverbuses.

I mean, it could just be stupid people being stupid, but nah. Prolly Antifa.

I mean, with all these masked protests in law-and-order hating blue cities, and still no major outbreaks there. What else could it be?


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    #26987577 - 10/15/20 07:37 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Dc water is hydroxychlorinated


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