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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: HamHead]
    #26857897 - 08/01/20 09:49 PM (1 day, 22 hours ago)



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Jokeshopbeard said:
I like that I rustled your jimmies though. That brings me joy.
InfiniteDreams said:
You realize emotion doesn't have a place in  mathematics?
koods said:
Asshole.
Jokeshopbeard said:
And also no; science, research, and peer reveiwed bollocks means very little to me.
Such things belong in the realm of intellect, not of reason, wisdom, and common sense.


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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: HamHead] * 3
    #26857920 - 08/01/20 10:02 PM (1 day, 22 hours ago)

Not really sure what you're trying to prove by posting these articles nobody (including yourself) will read. The only you even give a shit about HCQ is because your daddy Trump said it might be a cure. In spite of the articles touting its benefits, it would seem the very doctors and other qualified personnel have been reporting the exact opposite. I'm going to listen to the people who actually work in this field, not some halfassed journalist. If there's anything I've learned from this thread, is that google is not your friend.


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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: ONE OZ SLUG] * 1
    #26857959 - 08/01/20 10:27 PM (1 day, 22 hours ago)

I'll leave this and ask a simple question:

article

Question: Do you understand the difference between a journal impact score,  the allegations of pay for publication out other major publishers (Elsevier) and how trust worthy information is? Quick follow up (I know that's 2 questions) What's the difference between a double blind placebo controlled study and an epidemiological study?

I have I guess, unless you google, you have no idea.


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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: Ice9]
    #26858018 - 08/01/20 11:33 PM (1 day, 21 hours ago)

Quote:

Ice9 said:
I'll leave this and ask a simple question:

article

Question: Do you understand the difference between a journal impact score,  the allegations of pay for publication out other major publishers (Elsevier) and how trust worthy information is? Quick follow up (I know that's 2 questions) What's the difference between a double blind placebo controlled study and an epidemiological study?

I have I guess, unless you google, you have no idea.




:rush:

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2016638

"METHODS
We conducted a randomized (comes into question), double-blind, placebo-controlled trial across the United States and parts of Canada testing hydroxychloroquine as postexposure prophylaxis. We enrolled adults who had household or occupational exposure to someone with confirmed Covid-19 at a distance of less than 6 ft for more than 10 minutes while wearing neither a face mask nor an eye shield (high-risk exposure) or while wearing a face mask but no eye shield (moderate-risk exposure). Within 4 days after exposure, we randomly assigned participants to receive either placebo or hydroxychloroquine (800 mg once, followed by 600 mg in 6 to 8 hours, then 600 mg daily for 4 additional days). The primary outcome was the incidence of either laboratory-confirmed Covid-19 or illness compatible with Covid-19 within 14 days."

First, dosage. 800mg+600mg=1,400mg Within 24hours or less, which is a little too much even when treating a malaria infection. Then, 600mg for 4 additional days equals 2,400mg. Yay, I maths, see! 2,400mg+1,400mg=3,800mg

Weight Based Dosage In Adults And Pediatric Patients

13 mg/kg (10 mg/kg base), not to exceed 800 mg (620 mg base) followed by 6.5 mg/kg (5 mg/kg base), not to exceed 400 mg (310 mg base), at 6 hours, 24 hours and 48 hours after the initial dose.

And to treat malaria, 800mg+400mg=1,200mg. Then, it says 400mg at 24 and 48 hours, which is an additional 800mg. So, 800mg+400mg@6h+400mg@24hr+400mg@48h=2,000mg.

It's no wonder people are having problems with dosages used. IMO, it's too much when only 200mg once per day for 5 days on Zelenko protocol, which includes zinc, something this trial leaves out which has been proven be a vital key when using a zinc ionophore such as HCQ.


SETTING
Recruitment was performed primarily with the use of social media outreach as well as traditional media platforms. Participants were enrolled nationwide in the United States and in the Canadian provinces of Quebec, Manitoba, and Alberta. Participants enrolled themselves through a secure Internet-based survey using the Research Electronic Data Capture (REDCap) system.

Not randomized.

These trials leave out zinc. Do they not understand zinc ionophore?


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Jokeshopbeard said:
I like that I rustled your jimmies though. That brings me joy.
InfiniteDreams said:
You realize emotion doesn't have a place in  mathematics?
koods said:
Asshole.
Jokeshopbeard said:
And also no; science, research, and peer reveiwed bollocks means very little to me.
Such things belong in the realm of intellect, not of reason, wisdom, and common sense.


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