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Re: What do mushrooms do to benefit you? [Re: Cosmic_Flame]
#26743237 - 06/14/20 02:46 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I cannot even describe in words what mushrooms really do for me.
I've done multiple 5g trips, and everytime I got back there now it feels like I'm "home", and this other reality I've been living is just a lie.
I would say at this point mushrooms have completely altered my version of reality, and completely changed me as a person.
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Re: What do mushrooms do to benefit you? [Re: sinnerman]
#26743269 - 06/14/20 03:15 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Exactly the same for me dude, that feeling of coming “home”
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TheHappyChemical said: More along the lines of the actual thread, I'd say that mushrooms specifically have helped me tremendously as an antidepressant, dosed occasionally when I feel like I'm slipping.
Not to mention, their cultivation has shown to be a hugely beneficial hobby for me to obsess over and research, as intense obsessions are what keep me occupied from day to day, a classic symptom of autism. I was the kid who was WAY too into dinosaurs in school. It's hard to be depressed when there's so much to learn and do, having only done two simple PF Tek grows so far.
I'm a huge acid head, but while L has definitely helped me work through a multitude of personal problems including a pretty bad cigarette addiction, shrooms have always been a much gentler, more euphoric, less mindfucky option for me in that respect. I know for sure if I had better accessibility to them back then, they would've done just as well if not better for the same purposes I used acid for.
I also appreciate that I don't have to plan out a whole 12 hour block of time to get some relief. I used to love the duration, but it's gotten old recently.
I'm an atheist, but I'd say the feeling I get on mushrooms is probably the most "spiritual" trip I've experienced on any psych. I'm definitely not trying to dose in search of God or anything, but I am very excited to further explore this realm of psychedelics that I had previously ignored/ not cared about.
I'd say my experiences have pushed me even further towards non-belief, but with a much deeper connection to the natural world around me and the processes that guide it, including evolution, which is the closest thing to a God I believe in. One of the most impactful visuals I've ever seen on mushrooms was two crawling vines which intertwined into a perfect double helix, representing the inseparable connection between nature and science, or at least in my interpretation of it.
Yes, you're the second person in this thread who pointed out that the cultivation process is part of the experience, and I agree as well. Cultivation has reinforced some good qualities in me like patience and hygiene. Plus, it is really fun to research and improve your own methods!
I have also found mushrooms to be much gentler than LSD. I typically struggle a bit more during LSD trips than with mushroom trips. The two main things that make me prefer mushrooms to LSD are the duration and the stimulation. 6-8 hours is a much more reasonable time for a trip than a whopping 12 hours, and the stimulation I get from LSD usually means I don't sleep for about 24 hours, even if I take it early in the morning. For me, LSD is usually a two-day experience at minimum (one day to trip, one day to recover), whereas I can recover from a mushroom trip while I sleep overnight.
Thanks for discussing how mushrooms have helped you spiritually, as well. I'm also an atheist. To me, spiritualism is about feeling connected to something bigger than yourself. I'm a skeptical person, but at the very least, I believe in my ecosystem, and I feel a connection between myself and my environment that could be described as spiritual, and mushrooms tend to accent this connection.
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Mushrooms have done a lot of good things for me, like mentioned in previous posts, re-connecting to myself and the planet. Most importantly though they have inspired me to explore consciousness through meditation and this has been the most rewarding practice I have ever done. After a "bad trip" more than a year ago, I started meditating 1 hour every single day and this has lead me to territories of the mind where not even mushrooms have taken me.
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Re: What do mushrooms do to benefit you? [Re: sinnerman]
#26748969 - 06/16/20 01:17 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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sinnerman said: I cannot even describe in words what mushrooms really do for me.
I've done multiple 5g trips, and everytime I got back there now it feels like I'm "home", and this other reality I've been living is just a lie.
I would say at this point mushrooms have completely altered my version of reality, and completely changed me as a person.
Hopefully, these have been positive changes?
I've never had the feeling that I was returning home, though it seems that's a pretty common phrase for mushroom users to use. As for the other reality you've been living being a lie, I might have had some relatable experiences there. I've never had the feeling that sober reality was a lie, but I do believe that consciousness is a window to reality, and that psychedelics are like looking out a different window. When under the influence, your sensory organs still absorb all the same information, but the brain processes that information differently. Mushrooms (and other psychedelics) have shown me that there are many different modes of consciousness and, thus, many different vantage points from which we can experience reality. Maybe that's what you're getting at?
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Re: What do mushrooms do to benefit you? [Re: musicismath]
#26748981 - 06/16/20 01:22 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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musicismath said: Mushrooms have done a lot of good things for me, like mentioned in previous posts, re-connecting to myself and the planet. Most importantly though they have inspired me to explore consciousness through meditation and this has been the most rewarding practice I have ever done. After a "bad trip" more than a year ago, I started meditating 1 hour every single day and this has lead me to territories of the mind where not even mushrooms have taken me.
That's really nice that they inspired you in that way. I think mushrooms have given me similar inspirations. As I mentioned in a previous comment, mushrooms (and other psychedelics) have shown me that there are many different modes of consciousness - many different vantage points from which we may experience reality. Meditation is the gateway to another mode of consciousness, and I've found it to be a rather useful one as well!
Mushrooms have also inspired me to explore consciousness, and since I started using psychedelics, meditation has also become a larger part of my life. I'm not nearly as dedicated to it as you are (not that it's a competition haha) - I meditate for about ten minutes per day, but I find even just those ten minutes to be incredibly grounding and often healing. Knowing that there are people out there who meditate for an hour per day is really inspiring, so thanks for sharing your experience!
P.S. - is your username a reference to Boards of Canada, by any chance?
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First of all, thank you for giving me such a thorough reply! I feel like i should have been more specific on my benefits. I definitely have increased social anxiety during the trip, but it also helps me realize that my social anxiety is really an illusion and is more about barriers that i have created myself. Overcoming this has been about slowly breaking down the barriers between me and other people. While i still definitely have social anxiety, i feel like it is less intense and I can handle public speaking and hanging out in larger groups without overwhelming dread. Guess this can also be an improvement that comes with age as well.
I feel like shrooms (and MDMA) helped me to understand myself a lot better (why i feel certain ways)which led to a greater understanding of my emotions and those of others.
When im talking about a life beyond this one I am not really talking about an "afterlife" as in the christian heaven or something like that. I just dont believe that when I die it will be the end of my consciousness. Im thinking more in the lines of reincarnation, and im not 100 percent convinced on that either, but to me it seems like the most likely reality.
And honestly i havent had much luck with LSD and migraines. Ive found that taking LSD at the onset of a migraine can definitely quickly alleviate the symptoms but doesnt offer me any protection for the future. It seems to me that when i take a significant mushroom dose (for me 3.5-7 grams)I dont get any migraines for months at a time. I a currently growing some so i can have constant supply and i can experiment further on this.
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Re: What do mushrooms do to benefit you? [Re: chiefpeef]
#26749471 - 06/16/20 04:23 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I actually logged on to explain just this very thing. This will likely be a lengthy story so I'll put a tldr at the bottom.
I've been abnormally depressed recently, and the last few days it's been all I could do to keep a gun out of my mouth. Working from home has been stressful as my boss is incompetent and is actively out to get me, my marriage felt like it was feeling apart, I can't go to the gym and I've put on a ton of weight, and while I love my children dearly, special needs children will really take their toll on your psyche when you can't take them out of the house. Even neurotypical children with cabin fever are a handful, add in a child diagnosed with level 3 ASD, and chaos reigns. On top of all the personal issues, every news story regardless of which political bias all agree on the basic idea that we are living in the end times, shit has hit the fan and it's not getting any better and time soon.
I just started cultivating again after a 3 year break, and lamented that my first grow won't be ready for another week or two. So my wife dug out a bag from my last grow, that either I'd forgotten about, or hidden from myself. I took 2g lemon Tek, with a spoonful of sugar, (didn't want to take the chance they're old) and as soon as they kicked in, it's like a weight was lifted off of my shoulders. It would seem that I was experiencing an "impeding sense of doom" which hey, mushrooms are known to cure.
I feel better about life in general, it doesn't seem so bleak, and the light at the end of the tunnel might not be an oncoming train after all.
TLDR I was super depressed and suicidal, took mushrooms, now shit doesn't seem so bad.
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Re: What do mushrooms do to benefit you? [Re: DJ Ed]
#26749690 - 06/16/20 05:51 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey there!
Sorry for responding to this post almost a week late;
As someone who's bounced between SSRI usage for a few months (after multiple off and on periods of being perscribed the same SSRI dosage with nothing but negative impact on my mental state) with constant prompting by my dismissive Doctor, as someone who's tripped a handful of times on various dosages, how long would you suggest abstinence before any sort of trip?
I remember one of my first trips was on some magic truffles and had little to no effect on me apart from some light body high feeling. I'm planning on taking around 2.5-3.5g of Amazonian cubes in a few weeks but I've only tapered off a low 50g SSRI dosage 2 weeks ago.
Not to sound too emotive but good on you for making it this far and working out what makes your life worthwhile! I'm still in pursuit myself, hence why I'm here, for a deeper understanding of what my purpose is and who I am.
I couldn't describe it better than looking;
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Re: What do mushrooms do to benefit you? [Re: chiefpeef]
#26750313 - 06/16/20 11:34 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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chiefpeef said: First of all, thank you for giving me such a thorough reply! I feel like i should have been more specific on my benefits. I definitely have increased social anxiety during the trip, but it also helps me realize that my social anxiety is really an illusion and is more about barriers that i have created myself. Overcoming this has been about slowly breaking down the barriers between me and other people. While i still definitely have social anxiety, i feel like it is less intense and I can handle public speaking and hanging out in larger groups without overwhelming dread. Guess this can also be an improvement that comes with age as well.
That definitely clarifies it. It sounds like, with respect to social anxiety, mushrooms have opened some new doors for you, and you've since stepped through those doors on your own outside of the psychedelic experience.
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chiefpeef said: When im talking about a life beyond this one I am not really talking about an "afterlife" as in the christian heaven or something like that. I just dont believe that when I die it will be the end of my consciousness. Im thinking more in the lines of reincarnation, and im not 100 percent convinced on that either, but to me it seems like the most likely reality.
Personally, I'm a little skeptical of any theory of consciousness after death, since it seems we have trouble deciding what consciousness is in the first place. Nevertheless, it's quite clear that the chemicals that make up your body aren't going anywhere after you die - they just change into other chemicals. Either way, it's interesting that mushrooms have given you some new ideas about death.
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chiefpeef said: And honestly i havent had much luck with LSD and migraines. Ive found that taking LSD at the onset of a migraine can definitely quickly alleviate the symptoms but doesnt offer me any protection for the future. It seems to me that when i take a significant mushroom dose (for me 3.5-7 grams)I dont get any migraines for months at a time. I a currently growing some so i can have constant supply and i can experiment further on this.
Best of luck to ya!
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Re: What do mushrooms do to benefit you? [Re: Bro_exotic]
#26750318 - 06/16/20 11:43 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bro_exotic said: I've been abnormally depressed recently, and the last few days it's been all I could do to keep a gun out of my mouth. Working from home has been stressful as my boss is incompetent and is actively out to get me, my marriage felt like it was feeling apart, I can't go to the gym and I've put on a ton of weight, and while I love my children dearly, special needs children will really take their toll on your psyche when you can't take them out of the house. Even neurotypical children with cabin fever are a handful, add in a child diagnosed with level 3 ASD, and chaos reigns. On top of all the personal issues, every news story regardless of which political bias all agree on the basic idea that we are living in the end times, shit has hit the fan and it's not getting any better and time soon.
Shit, man. Sounds like you have a lot to deal with. I hope writing all of that out has been cathartic enough to ease a bit of the stress 
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Bro_exotic said: I just started cultivating again after a 3 year break, and lamented that my first grow won't be ready for another week or two. So my wife dug out a bag from my last grow, that either I'd forgotten about, or hidden from myself. I took 2g lemon Tek, with a spoonful of sugar, (didn't want to take the chance they're old) and as soon as they kicked in, it's like a weight was lifted off of my shoulders.
Even though you said you felt like your marriage is falling apart, it sounds like you and your wife can still make a pretty good team when it's down to the wire. I'm still relatively young and haven't had any relationships that got to a point of cohabitation, but I've always worried that if I ever start living with one of my partners (or decide to have children) that I wouldn't be able to find time for psychedelic experiences. However, it sounds like you and your wife have found a way to make that work somehow, even during a pandemic.
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Bro_exotic said: It would seem that I was experiencing an "impeding sense of doom" which hey, mushrooms are known to cure.
Eh, I wouldn't say mushrooms cure that feeling, but a lot of people report that they feel more accepting of fate after a mushroom trip. Terminally ill people often find a sense of satisfaction with the lives they've lived and trusting that whatever lies ahead (even death) is going to be okay. Sounds like it was a healing experience either way, and I'm really glad that they gave you some peace of mind.
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Re: What do mushrooms do to benefit you? [Re: Ulivax]
#26750350 - 06/17/20 12:20 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Coming off SSRIs and how this then translates into being able to trip successfully, is very individual to the person. It took me 5 months. For others, it takes a matter of days. And for some lucky few, it makes no difference.
Two weeks followed by 3.5g is a great start. See how you get on, and good luck.
Remember, there are no negative interactions between SSRIs and psilocybin; if anything, they lessen each other’s effects.
Take care DJ Ed
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Re: What do mushrooms do to benefit you? [Re: DJ Ed] 2
#26750529 - 06/17/20 01:59 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Fungi keep me grounded and in touch with nature, even in the coldest of winters - they're my "gardening fix".
They help me to see harmony and connection when my own preoccupation and cluttered thoughts distract me from the bliss of awareness & observing without judgment.
Reactive emotional responses to Everything are far less frequent for me when I involve fungi with my day to day experiences.
These are just a few things. There are more. Overall I am just so grateful, brimming with gratitude, for having found such an ancient and beautiful wisdom.
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Nonagon Infinity said: Shit, man. Sounds like you have a lot to deal with. I hope writing all of that out has been cathartic enough to ease a bit of the stress 
I actually was feeling so cathartic with the light trip that I really felt the need to share.
I've always worried that if I ever start living with one of my partners (or decide to have children) that I wouldn't be able to find time for psychedelic experiences.
The trick is to find a partner that is either an experienced tripper, or is willing to try it. If you trip sit them their first time, you can trip together later, and there is no more rewarding experience IMO than tripping with someone you love. It can strengthen your bond, and trip sex is amazing fun of it's level 3 or less. Once you have kids, there just needs to be more preparation. This is what babysitters and in-laws are for. I'll drop the babies off with my parents for the weekend and take a daytime trip in a dark bedroom with wifey. Good times had by all.
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Re: What do mushrooms do to benefit you? [Re: solipschism]
#26756960 - 06/19/20 10:25 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Do you not think this is because mushrooms basically turn you into a young child again; so everything is amazing and new. Like a 4 year old going to the fairground or a theme park. Psilocin switches off the so-called Default Mode Network, responsible for survival, the ego. As the ego dissolves, the environmental, parental, educational, peer influences on you are removed; you’re stripped back to a child.
Wouldn’t it be awesome to be able to get that excitement you felt on Christmas morning as a child.......
Mush love DJ Ed
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Re: What do mushrooms do to benefit you? [Re: DJ Ed]
#26757237 - 06/19/20 12:07 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'd be real careful about any analysis that concludes tripping "turns you into a young child again". 
Although there are aspects to trips that recover childhood feelings and memories, simply assuming/asserting that it "switches off the so-called Default Mode Network" is another road to misunderstanding IMHO. Mushrooms amplify emotions and brain interconnectivity - the latter has been demonstrated only fairly recently in fMRI studies that, BTW, entirely refuted published conclusions that they worked by dampening activity, a "result" I found strikingly at odd with actual experience, where thoughts run faster and in unusual, often inexplicable, but beneficial ways.
When I trip I never feel like a child, although I can remember being a child more clearly. I feel instead like I've left behind a load of ego-centered adaptation that turns out (in retrospect), to be of little apparent actual utility - even if all too typical among modern humans.
Switching off the "ego" IME arises from a return to non-dual consciousness, i.e., not a loss of something but rather a gain of a vastly more powerful perspective. 
Of course and always, YMMV.
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Re: What do mushrooms do to benefit you? [Re: solipschism]
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Shrooms are poisonous. They don't "bring one home," rather they poison you into a feeling of illusory elation. Has enlightenment become that cheap, where one can eat a few caps and experience authentic higher states of consciousness and being?
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Re: What do mushrooms do to benefit you? [Re: solipschism]
#26757961 - 06/19/20 05:00 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Gee I wish I'd known that 40 years ago when I first tried them.
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