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Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? * 4
    #26757256 - 06/19/20 12:14 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

There are millions of poly folk in the US and abroad, myself included.

Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marriage and be afforded with the same protections and rights as monogamous couples?

Why or why not?

Let’s try to stay civil please.


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: SARAtonin]
    #26757261 - 06/19/20 12:16 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I don't care.

The sanctity of marriage hasn't been a thing for a while and it wasn't necessarily a good thing when it was.


Though I suppose that can complicate taxed.


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #26757266 - 06/19/20 12:18 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

yeah who cares.


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: SARAtonin] * 1
    #26757267 - 06/19/20 12:18 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

*skip over:snowman:


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #26757268 - 06/19/20 12:18 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Why would they not be able to marry?  If they are both alright with the poly thing I thought it was fine for them to get married.  No more discrimination allowed!


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: SARAtonin] * 1
    #26757272 - 06/19/20 12:20 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Good question!

I think they should as long as there is some clear rules about the Poly-relationship. Like what if theres a new person in the Poly circle? Do you get re-married to show their poly-marriage involvement? What sort of paperwork is involved? How many wifes/husbands can a person have? Is there a practical limit?

I think writing laws for poly-marriages would be the most complex part of it.


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: sui]
    #26757273 - 06/19/20 12:20 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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yeah who cares.




i mean i care, i want to marry who ever i want to.


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: sui]
    #26757278 - 06/19/20 12:22 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

ive never wanted to marry a man but if i wanted to. i wouldnt want anyone to stop me.


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: sui] * 1
    #26757283 - 06/19/20 12:23 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Poly marriages are perfect for bi-people: they can have a wife and a husband, or two of each! Collect them all! :datass:


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26757287 - 06/19/20 12:24 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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LogicaL Chaos said:
Good question!

I think they should as long as there is some clear rules about the Poly-relationship. Like what if theres a new person in the Poly circle? Do you get re-married to show their poly-marriage involvement? What sort of paperwork is involved? How many wifes/husbands can a person have? Is there a practical limit?

I think writing laws for poly-marriages would be the most complex part of it.



Yep all that paper work bullshit is based around 2 people.


Folk would have to do alot more work than they did for same sex marriage.


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: SARAtonin]
    #26757297 - 06/19/20 12:28 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I can't say I've ever interested myself in the accompanying laws so I'm not sure off-hand how they work. But I do know that here, and this is a big reason why I see marriage as pointless, common-law partnerships are often treated the same as marriages even by tax things and case law. It's just a paid title here that legally binds you. I'm not sure if it's quite the same in the states. Regardless, can't see a point in not allowing it. People are going to do whatever they want to do. I could see it getting complicated for taxes and other things though. You also seem to be assuming that third or fourth person is exclusively part of that poly group. Like idk how you'd even begin to do tax stuff for mass groups of partially inter-married couples.


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: CookieCrumbs] * 4
    #26757304 - 06/19/20 12:29 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Pulling any more aspects of ones sex life into a legal document than is absolutely necessary seems moronic to me.

Why not marry a primary partner and just do the poly thing as you choose? Must one legally announce it to the world?

Should legal marriage now be altered further so that one can have a document that states connections like this?



Seems all a bit entitled to me. But that's just me.


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: theRealrollforever] * 1
    #26757314 - 06/19/20 12:32 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah all poly couples should be allowed to. I mean why not? It is my understanding that they are currently in all states right? If not just pretend to be monogamous on paper anyways.


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: SARAtonin] * 2
    #26757322 - 06/19/20 12:34 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

SARAtonin said:
Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marriage and be afforded with the same protections and rights as monogamous couples?




sure, do not even comprehend why bigamy laws are in place to begin with

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SARAtonin said:
Why or why not?




because of not comprehending why it is not a protected right already

and because something tells me that part of the influence for this may be
that it would be easier for the three of you to move up to Canada if Jess had the same legal status that you and Lily share

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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26757323 - 06/19/20 12:34 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I'm too selfish to be poly. That being said this thread may turn out to be entertaining so I might just pull up a chair and :popcorn:


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 2
    #26757329 - 06/19/20 12:35 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Why not marry a primary partner and just do the poly thing as you choose? Must one legally announce it to the world?




Because when moving from the US to Canada it is likely easier for married partners to gain citizenship
than it is for a couple + an unrelated third party
or, rather, the third party suffers all the restrictions of being labeled as single and independently processed through immigration, rather than part of a family unit


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: meatloaf]
    #26757332 - 06/19/20 12:36 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Pulling any more aspects of ones sex life into a legal document than is absolutely necessary seems moronic to me.

Why not marry a primary partner and just do the poly thing as you choose? Must one legally announce it to the world?

Should legal marriage now be altered further so that one can have a document that states connections like this?



Seems all a bit entitled to me. But that's just me.



So to clarify, you believe requesting the right to see a loved on on their death bed is entitled? Just checking.

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Yeah all poly couples should be allowed to. I mean why not? It is my understanding that they are currently in all states right? If not just pretend to be monogamous on paper anyways.



It’s illegal across the US.


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: Tantrika] * 1
    #26757333 - 06/19/20 12:37 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Anyone and everyone should have the right to marry who and how many they want to.

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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: SARAtonin]
    #26757340 - 06/19/20 12:38 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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So to clarify, you believe requesting the right to see a loved on on their death bed is entitled? Just checking.




oh, also highly worth consideration
tho hopefully not a concern anytime soon :uhoh:

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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: Tantrika] * 1
    #26757341 - 06/19/20 12:38 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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than it is for a couple + an unrelated third party
or, rather, the third party suffers all the restrictions of being labeled as single rather than part of a family unit



I think it really quite intellectually lazy to fall back upon that as a reason to revamp the whole of marriage to include multiple parters.

But hey, everyone in the modern world is a special snowflake now it seems, and everything should change to please those who take issue with anything.


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: SARAtonin]
    #26757342 - 06/19/20 12:39 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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So to clarify, you believe requesting the right to see a loved on on their death bed is entitled? Just checking.



I don't converse with people that put words in my mouth.


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: Tantrika] * 4
    #26757343 - 06/19/20 12:39 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Tantrika said:
and because something tells me that part of the influence for this may be
that it would be easier for the three of you to move up to Canada if Jess had the same legal status that you and Lily share

xP



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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: Dilsnique] * 3
    #26757345 - 06/19/20 12:40 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Ok ok I'll only be poly if I can have an anime style harem consisting of all the shroomery girls :trippinbawelz:


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #26757347 - 06/19/20 12:41 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Isnt it funny how almost every anime is like one guy and like 5 hot babes or just all hot babes? It cracks me up.


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26757349 - 06/19/20 12:41 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Fuck yeah :lolsy:


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #26757350 - 06/19/20 12:41 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)


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Ok ok I'll only be poly if I can have an anime style harem consisting of all the shroomery girls :trippinbawelz:




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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: SARAtonin]
    #26757352 - 06/19/20 12:43 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Doesnt Utah already have a law for Poly-marriages? Or does it apply only to LDS/JW members?


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: sui]
    #26757356 - 06/19/20 12:45 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I am just going to join the thread by asking, why would you marry especially in a polyamorous relationship? What are the benefits? And yes, people should be able to "marry" whomever, whatever that means and whatever they get out of it. Sure, get the law involved and go through the hassle. whatever.


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26757357 - 06/19/20 12:45 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

they just changed that.


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26757358 - 06/19/20 12:45 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

It’s no longer a felony in Utah but is still a “minor infraction” and doesn’t hold any real legal status.


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: SARAtonin]
    #26757359 - 06/19/20 12:46 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 2
    #26757361 - 06/19/20 12:46 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Problem with that is that legal bullshit is involved in medical and inheritance.


Lets say you have 2 girlfriends who are married and for all intents and purposes they are your life partners. Both get into an accident. One dies. The other is on life support.

Because you are not legally married the choice to pull the plug goes to next of kin, not you.


Then that kin can dispute a will if there is one or leave you out of inheritance if there isn't.


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 3
    #26757364 - 06/19/20 12:46 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

Tantrika said:
than it is for a couple + an unrelated third party
or, rather, the third party suffers all the restrictions of being labeled as single rather than part of a family unit



I think it really quite intellectually lazy to fall back upon that as a reason to revamp the whole of marriage to include multiple parters.




Could you explain why you find it "intellectually lazy"
to recognize that married partners are afforded additional rights and freedoms
associated with things like family spaces and international travel
and that not all families are defined by the narrow definition of marriage that exists

Quote:

Jokeshopbeard said:
But hey, everyone in the modern world is a special snowflake now it seems, and everything should change to please those who take issue with anything.




imagine being so fucking privileged and promoting the messaging of the system
as to put forth that anyone who desires recognition for the ways in which their experiences deviate from yours
makes them a "special snowflake"


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: CookieCrumbs] * 1
    #26757370 - 06/19/20 12:48 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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CookieCrumbs said:
Problem with that is that legal bullshit is involved in medical and inheritance.


Lets say you have 2 girlfriends who are married and for all intents and purposes they are your life partners. Both get into an accident. One dies. The other is on life support.

Because you are not legally married the choice to pull the plug goes to next of kin, not you.


Then that kin can dispute a will if there is one or leave you out of inheritance if there isn't.



This


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: Tantrika]
    #26757372 - 06/19/20 12:48 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

SARAtonin said:
Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marriage and be afforded with the same protections and rights as monogamous couples?




sure, do not even comprehend why bigamy laws are in place to begin with



I think what they have in mind is the kinds of religious sects that practice polygamy along with child marriage and stuff like that. Not a good rationale though IMO.


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: psi] * 1
    #26757377 - 06/19/20 12:51 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

Tantrika said:
Quote:

SARAtonin said:
Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marriage and be afforded with the same protections and rights as monogamous couples?




sure, do not even comprehend why bigamy laws are in place to begin with



I think what they have in mind is the kinds of religious sects that practice polygamy along with child marriage and stuff like that. Not a good rationale though IMO.




yeah I think modern society should be capable of recognizing that we can "authorize" multiple spouses
while still outlawing child spouses and pursuing legal action with regards to child abuse


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: Tantrika]
    #26757379 - 06/19/20 12:51 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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CookieCrumbs said:
Then that kin can dispute a will if there is one or leave you out of inheritance if there isn't.



Again, I find it lazy to expect the law to be altered to sort shit out for you.

Life is hard, and full of challenges, like loss and relocation and issues with money. We ALL face these.

If one is not mature enough to deal with it between oneself and ones people, then screaming 'Teacher Teacher' looks to me like adults being children.

And I have no time or respect for people who pull that childish, petty, Mickey Mouse bullshit.

Quote:

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Could you explain why you find it "intellectually lazy"



No. My feelings are not up for debate with you.


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 2
    #26757381 - 06/19/20 12:52 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

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Could you explain why you find it "intellectually lazy"



No.




So your answer to whether or not you are capable is no

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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 4
    #26757392 - 06/19/20 12:56 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

If you want a law that gives the same rights as a married couple but call it civil unions or some shit that's fine.


But people said the same thing about gay marriage.



I'm not fond of the institution of marriage and I don't like the idea of it but I would 100% murder someone that kept me from seeing my partner in the ICU because some legal bullshit doesn't formally recognize our love.

Fuck all that.


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 2
    #26757406 - 06/19/20 01:01 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Then that kin can dispute a will if there is one or leave you out of inheritance if there isn't.



Again, I find it lazy to expect the law to be altered to sort shit out for you.




Because the law in its current format is already made to sort shit out for you
and you're all cozy and don't mind if others are excluded

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Life is hard, and full of challenges, like loss and relocation and issues with money. We ALL face these.




and if you could find a singular woman who would be willing to marry you
your relationship would not at all face the challenges poly relationships face
so you are perfectly comfortable with the law staying in a way that benefits you
and not being changed to expand who it benefits in the same manner it benefits you

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If one is not mature enough to deal with it between oneself and ones people, then screaming 'Teacher Teacher' looks to me like adults being children.




The fact that you don't understand the realities of adult life looks to me like the behaviour of a child

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And I have no time or respect for people who pull that childish, petty, Mickey Mouse bullshit.




so you have no time or respect for yourself?
because you sure pull a bunch of petty Mickey Capitalist Exploitation Mouse bullshit
interesting

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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: CookieCrumbs] * 2
    #26757412 - 06/19/20 01:02 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I dont care.

I dont think the government should have anything to do with marriage.

I do think one man and one woman is the ideal parental unit.


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: Tantrika] * 2
    #26757414 - 06/19/20 01:03 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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cannot believe having ever mistaken you for an ally



LOLOL. Put the claws away girl, I'm bleeding over here!!


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #26757419 - 06/19/20 01:04 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

All a marriage certificate is is a way for institutions and government to see that you are family.

It's sad that's required but it is because society. Your parents and brothers and sisters are all legally documented. That's what gives you rights as a family.


Why shouldn't that work with life partners?



The religion argument for marriage was nonsense. Anyone can get a marriage ceremony in some religion.

The legal aspect is different. It is a legal recognition of family.


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26757425 - 06/19/20 01:08 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

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cannot believe having ever mistaken you for an ally



LOLOL. Put the claws away girl, I'm bleeding over here!!




Gotta be able to trust someone to consider them an ally

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the reward of conventions is the panels and the more general opportunities that they bring
JSB prolly had no interest in this particular event himself, but if he had been visiting that same convention with me
would have dragged him to one of the Bethesda panels, and asked him to prop me up/be a source of courage so my legs don't give out
in approaching the microphone during question period

to ask Todd Howard if their games will ever return to the depth of character customization they used to have
where Daggerfall let me choose various in-universe languages my character could speak, and New Vegas let me identify as a lesbian and have related dialogue in the world
while Fallout 4 railroaded me into a heterosexual relationship, then had me tell a nice ghoul lady she was not my type due to pining over my dead husband
while my lesbian lovers Piper and Curie stand right beside me waiting to get the ghoul in our gal gang
and then also egg Todd on to say "trans rights are human rights"
:cookiemonster:




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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: SARAtonin] * 2
    #26757429 - 06/19/20 01:08 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I have fantasies all the time about meeting some other woman that my wife likes too and we all get married and have kinky sex for the rest of our lives even into our crusty 90s. I just figured everyone fantasized about that.

WHY THE FUCK WOULD I TAKE THAT AWAY FROM SOMEONE WHO COULD DO IT???

Laws are so stupid as fuck. Also, for the record, even if it was legal (which it should be - assuming 3 consenting adult parties), would never work for me. My wife has drawn a hard clear line in the sand saying nobody else, EVER> :sad:


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    #26757431 - 06/19/20 01:10 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

It’s hilarious that now that I’ve blocked tantrika most of the responses in controversial threads are in response  to her posts and winded rants :somefunnyshit:
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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: theRealrollforever]
    #26757438 - 06/19/20 01:11 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

What is a poly coupling?


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    #26757439 - 06/19/20 01:12 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

3+


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: theRealrollforever] * 1
    #26757440 - 06/19/20 01:12 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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It’s hilarious that now that I’ve blocked tantrika most of the responses in controversial threads are in response  to her posts and winded rants :somefunnyshit:
Shroomery is better when you CUSTOMIZE the experience




Am glad you pay so much attention to me to still be focused on me after employing the block feature
would ask who exactly you are supposed to be, but no one would find you important enough to quote my post in a manner that allows you to read it

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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: Texas Honey Badger]
    #26757442 - 06/19/20 01:13 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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What is a poly coupling?





its the dream i had a couple nights ago with my two last girlfriends.


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    #26757447 - 06/19/20 01:15 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Also word of advice, for parties of two or more. dont get married. I love my wife and all, but am failing to see what marriage has actually done to make my life better. I am kind of just an unpaid slave now, not really in a good way either.

I used to have kinky 3 way sex before marriage. now I decided to take an oath saying ill never get to do that again. wife wants to limit hanging out with my friends, riding motorcycles, going on vacations to hike crazy mountains, skydiving, all the shit i want to do and love to do, I have essentially put myself in a position of having to explain all my life ambitions and decisions to this other person to try and get their approval - which i dont seem to get a lot of. Oh and on top of that I get to do like a million fucking house chores that shes too lazy to do.

DONT GET MARRIED. ITS NOT ALL ITS CRACKED UP TO BE. If there was one reason I would say polys shouldnt have the right to marry, its because im trying to help you.


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: sui] * 1
    #26757454 - 06/19/20 01:17 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Sounds hot.

I think I have too much abandonment issues to functionally do it myself. As I get older even threesomes are becoming less appealing.



Also because juggling a relationship with one woman is difficult enough...


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    #26757457 - 06/19/20 01:18 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

:ohwell:


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: CookieCrumbs] * 1
    #26757458 - 06/19/20 01:19 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

it sound sexy but we just cuddle puddled.


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: Tantrika] * 1
    #26757460 - 06/19/20 01:20 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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DONT GET MARRIED. ITS NOT ALL ITS CRACKED UP TO BE. If there was one reason I would say polys shouldnt have the right to marry, its because im trying to help you.



I definitely wouldn't do it again, unless for some kind of legal loophole that benefitted both parties. Cause fuck the law anyway. I've never respected it and in hindsight it was dumb to write my coupling into it.

My marriage ended five years ago and I've been happily poly ever since. It's a far more natural state of being IMO. Free flowing. Not bound by tradition or expectation or paperwork mumbo jumbo.


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but no one would find you important enough to...



Those female hormones really working for you huh? You're definitely getting more cutting in your remarks of late.


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: sui] * 3
    #26757462 - 06/19/20 01:21 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

See i could go for being the meat in a lesbian sandwich




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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26757464 - 06/19/20 01:22 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

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but no one would find you important enough to...



Those female hormones really working for you huh? You're definitely getting more cutting in your remarks of late.




Working great, look at the male attention that keeps coming my way
even you decided to comment about my lived experience
rather than prove me wrong by quoting it

keep up the good work e-cop


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #26757465 - 06/19/20 01:22 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Damn. :unbelievable:

Lesbian Poly-Couples FTFW.


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26757469 - 06/19/20 01:23 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Fwiw I took your stance as anti state, not anti poly. But the state does work it's way into your life anyway...


Sucks you need legal protection to love...

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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #26757492 - 06/19/20 01:39 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Projecting because of my dislike of the legal system?

The thought had definitely crossed my mind!!

I'm absolutely pro-'do whatever the fuck you want to do as long as it doesn't harm anyone else.'

However I am anti-'all my concerns in life should be addressed and validated and recognized by the system because I'm special.'

I see that attitude more and more as time goes by.


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26757499 - 06/19/20 01:42 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I see that attitude more and more as time goes by.




in the mirror, because the system you are so deeply inside and part of
treats you like you are special and you love it
so much so that all you are really complaining about is others being raised up to your level

but sure man, all the people under your boot totally recognize you as being pro-freedom while you shout down theirs


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: Tantrika]
    #26757504 - 06/19/20 01:44 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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even you decided to comment about my lived experience



Quote:

Tantrika said:
treats you like you are special and you love it



You're fun.


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26757505 - 06/19/20 01:44 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

No I mean inserting your negative experience with marriage into the whole thing as a concept.

I agree but this is not the case as the system is the one that imposes the burdens.


It's like paying your taxes or getting insurance. You do it because that's the way you play in the system or the system fucks you.


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #26757508 - 06/19/20 01:45 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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No I mean inserting your negative experience with marriage into the whole thing as a concept.



Oh my experience with marriage was not negative. It was wonderful, and I value it very deeply and dearly.

I'm just saying that, all things considered, I would avoid doing it again is all.


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #26757522 - 06/19/20 01:48 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I understand. I do. I recall you talking about it before. My experience and my reasoning is not dissimilar.

Which is how I could see you could be projecting.

Yall got me glad asf I decided to eat a chill pill btw. Everyone all hype and then me being hype I feel like I quickly become problematic... I'm happy...


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: CookieCrumbs] * 2
    #26757531 - 06/19/20 01:52 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Cookies be chillin' :cool:

This thread is been an eye-opener for me. Learning experience.


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: CookieCrumbs] * 1
    #26757534 - 06/19/20 01:52 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Yall got me glad asf I decided to eat a chill pill btw. Everyone all hype and then me being hype I feel like I quickly become problematic... I'm happy...



Can you elucidate please CC? I'm curious.

I've had such wonderful equilibrium of late it's amazing to me when I look back and see how peoples words used to be able to wind me up. I can't imagine allowing myself to be actually 'annoyed' by something that someone else says at this point.

It's fucking awesome.

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This thread is been an eye-opener for me. Learning experience.



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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #26757561 - 06/19/20 02:00 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

Tantrika said:
even you decided to comment about my lived experience



Quote:

Tantrika said:
treats you like you are special and you love it



You're fun.




You did not have to respond to my comment at all -- as the user has me blocked, there was no moderator decision involved, you did it for personal engagement purposes
you also commented on my personal life referring to my medications outside the forums

but no one takes you seriously as a mod who can be upheld to the higher standards the position confers
so, really, that was expected

meanwhile you actively push a message that anyone who wishes to have the same rights as you
is a "special snowflake"
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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #26757565 - 06/19/20 02:01 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

If poly marriage was legal, that could be used to abuse marriage and fiance visas and green cards.


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26757576 - 06/19/20 02:03 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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This thread is been an eye-opener for me. Learning experience.




agreed
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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #26757596 - 06/19/20 02:14 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Elucidating:

1. I had a fucking meltdown and purged alot of my negative feelings and organized my disordered thoughts. That was so cathartic.

2. I've recognized I'm just generally tired and don't have energy to care about things that aren't my responsibility or don't foster my own wellbeing.

3. I took a step back and analyzed myself and where my actions were coming from and how to be who I want to be.


I'll probably get hype again :ohwell: but it all comes down to being me and taking care of myself so I can be.

So crazy cookie doesn't take over.


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Re: Do you believe poly couples should have the right to marry? [Re: budmanman]
    #26757673 - 06/19/20 03:00 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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If poly marriage was legal, that could be used to abuse marriage and fiance visas and green cards.




Call it civil unions and make exceptions where it can be nullified.

America already does this with marriage for citizenship.


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