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ShroomQueen
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ID request: Blue Meanies - NSW Australia
#26756077 - 06/19/20 01:13 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Habitat: Found growing in pine forest at 839m altitude, Blue Mountains Australia, on ground sprouting from pine tree mulch and near or around decaying pine trees
Gills: Dark brown, adnexed / adnate
Stem: 7-10cm long, 3-5cm diameter, white/blueish/dark brown, solid, strong, thin
Cap: 25-60mm Diameter, light brown/beige/caramel with some blueish marks and dark brownish edges, firm texture, convex/flat
Spore print color: Dark brown, purplish / blue-ish spots from cut stem
Bruising: Blue / dark blue-ish / black
Other information: This is my second pick in this area - these shrooms look identical to the ones I found on my first pick, but just wanted to double check as this time I went alone without my experienced friend. (I am new to this forum and this is my first post so please forgive me if the format of my post is not quite right.) Unfortunately, not all of the caps left spore prints, they started to curl in from the sides during the drying process BUT - all of these shrooms had the same attributes as described above (+dark brown gills for all) and any that we weren't sure about got tossed already.
Lastly, much gratitude to all who organise this site, it has been the best resource and seems to be a warm and friendly community which is so nice! 
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Tripliping
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Re: ID request: Blue Meanies - NSW Australia [Re: ShroomQueen]
#26756243 - 06/19/20 03:14 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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They appear to be subs, but the 2nd cap, left hand side from the top on the bottom photo looks a bit sus.
-------------------- Never hurts to get a second opinion just to be sure. Especially from a forum expert. If you're Aussie and a beginner head over to: End of Game for some great info. OOISI guide Subaeruginosa Guide
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ShroomQueen
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Re: ID request: Blue Meanies - NSW Australia [Re: Tripliping]
#26756465 - 06/19/20 07:06 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks for the comment, is that because that cap looks a bit whitish? I think it's just the photo that made it look like that, I took the pic at night and adjusted the white balance a little because the lighting was a bit shit. Honestly, all of these shrooms looked identical in their colour / details
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Tripliping
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Re: ID request: Blue Meanies - NSW Australia [Re: ShroomQueen]
#26756509 - 06/19/20 07:27 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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If it puts your mind at ease too you can get a second opinion.
-------------------- Never hurts to get a second opinion just to be sure. Especially from a forum expert. If you're Aussie and a beginner head over to: End of Game for some great info. OOISI guide Subaeruginosa Guide
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Re: ID request: Blue Meanies - NSW Australia [Re: Tripliping]
#26756872 - 06/19/20 09:55 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'd Say All Are Psilocybe Subaeruginosa "Subs", Nice Finds 
"Blue Meanies" Is A Nickname For Panaeolus (Copelandia) Cyanescens
-------------------- Tips For A Beginner Mushroom Hunter https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27146775 One Who Hunts Mushrooms Is A Mushroom Hunter. One Who Eats Them Without Knowing What They Are, Is A Dumb Mushroom Hunter. - Seph
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Re: ID request: Blue Meanies - NSW Australia [Re: MpSeph]
#26758272 - 06/19/20 06:45 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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YAY! Thanks guys. Yes, I was 99.9 percent sure they were the same kind as we found during the first pick but wanted to be sure (and was a good excuse to join this community forum)
Thought they were blue meanies, cheers for clarifying.
In regards to dosage: I have 8g dried in total from this batch (although the two biggest ones I semi-dried and then put in the fridge as I heard they are stronger when fresh). We were planning to eat these today (two of us) but not sure whether to split the batch into 2 and have it all now (for a stronger trip) or to split it into 4 so we each can have one trip today and one more some other time. Do you think 2g each is enough to have a decent trip?
The last time we ate them we shared 3 fresh medium sized shrooms and it was a very pleasant, clean trip with some visuals although the effect was very mild. Felt like I wanted them to be at least 3-4 times stronger than that. Not sure what dosage would likely result in a breakthrough but 4g each would surely be intense wouldn't it?
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Re: ID request: Blue Meanies - NSW Australia [Re: ShroomQueen]
#26758584 - 06/19/20 09:16 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Depending On How Much Each Person Weighs, Yes, 4 Grams Each Should Be Pretty Intense
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ShroomQueen
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Re: ID request: Blue Meanies - NSW Australia [Re: MpSeph]
#26758712 - 06/19/20 10:35 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ok thanks again. One more question. Is it better to have the dose all at once? Or can you say, have 2g and then an hour or two later have another 2g?
I guess what I'm trying to say is - would 2 separate intakes make you reach the same level of intensity as if you took 4g at once? or would it be less intense?
Ideally, we want an intense trip that lasts longer than the standard 4 hours.
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Tripliping
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Re: ID request: Blue Meanies - NSW Australia [Re: ShroomQueen]
#26758741 - 06/19/20 11:03 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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If you eat on a empty stomach (say no food for 5hrs) and use lemon tek method you'll only need to 2-3g of subs that'll be plenty strong. I'd suggest doing it in the dark too.
But its up to you how ya want to do them, there's no wrong or right.
-------------------- Never hurts to get a second opinion just to be sure. Especially from a forum expert. If you're Aussie and a beginner head over to: End of Game for some great info. OOISI guide Subaeruginosa Guide
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Re: ID request: Blue Meanies - NSW Australia [Re: Tripliping]
#26762393 - 06/21/20 07:10 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks for the hot tips! I was just reading up about the lemon tek thing - will definitely give it a go. Why in the dark - more visuals?
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Tripliping
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Re: ID request: Blue Meanies - NSW Australia [Re: ShroomQueen]
#26765038 - 06/21/20 06:10 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah much better visuals in the dark (which tends to trigger more in depth higher thought), the light can be somewhat sobering with shrooms. Just dose up before dark IMO. But having them on an empty stomach is far more important than anything else.
-------------------- Never hurts to get a second opinion just to be sure. Especially from a forum expert. If you're Aussie and a beginner head over to: End of Game for some great info. OOISI guide Subaeruginosa Guide
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Re: ID request: Blue Meanies - NSW Australia [Re: Tripliping]
#26775656 - 06/22/20 11:47 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've always done them before the sun goes down because I like the change of light that happens at dusk ... but I can see why dark is better, the visuals are definitely stronger. Last time I them about 1.5 hours after eating (not a huge meal) but I'm reading about people who wait 4-5 hours after food, is there much of a difference do you think? I always get so hungry on shrooms and wonder whether eating while tripping is what sobers me up! I always want the trip to last longer than it does haha
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Tripliping
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Re: ID request: Blue Meanies - NSW Australia [Re: ShroomQueen]
#26775792 - 06/23/20 02:20 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Typically the stomach empties after 3-4hrs, but I have noticed a difference pushing that number out to 6hrs and making sure i don't eat 3 hours after i dose up. There is a very noticeable difference. I would say give it a go, even try 5hrs and don't eat until 2.5-3hrs in and you will definitely notice a difference.
-------------------- Never hurts to get a second opinion just to be sure. Especially from a forum expert. If you're Aussie and a beginner head over to: End of Game for some great info. OOISI guide Subaeruginosa Guide
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