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I feel like Ive been over sterilizing all my of jars thos whole time
#26756044 - 06/19/20 12:40 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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So I have PCed a lot of jars, and everything has worked out fine... but I want to do it right. How much should the rocker be rocking for 15PSI? I think I have mine rocking way too much.
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Re: I feel like Ive been over sterilizing all my of jars thos whole time [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
#26756061 - 06/19/20 12:58 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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The rocker keeps the pc at 15psi, if its always relieving pressure you got your heat to high. But you won't be over sterilizing your grain, mine usually rocks but its not blowing steam all over.
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Re: I feel like Ive been over sterilizing all my of jars thos whole time [Re: MH5109]
#26756081 - 06/19/20 01:15 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ok that soumds obvious, I appreciate it. I guess the post wasn’t necessary. Thanks
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Re: I feel like Ive been over sterilizing all my of jars thos whole time [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
#26756098 - 06/19/20 01:27 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I start my timing at 15psi and usually ends up with 20-25psi by the end of 120mins cycle.
My PC is an old school AA that only relieves pressure @30+psi. I use a gas stove btw.
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Re: I feel like Ive been over sterilizing all my of jars thos whole time [Re: pablokabute]
#26756119 - 06/19/20 01:36 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I would love to have a pc that goes up to 25psi. But 15psi isn't bad tho, our friends in Europe have to jump through hoops to get a 15psi pc.
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Re: I feel like Ive been over sterilizing all my of jars thos whole time [Re: MH5109]
#26756175 - 06/19/20 02:11 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have this AA 21q PC for around 5yrs now, bought it 2nd hand for US$200 converted.
Seller says he's upgrading, I think he's also an edible mushroom cultivator.
Bnew 41q AA in here costs US$700 last time I checked.
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Re: I feel like Ive been over sterilizing all my of jars thos whole time [Re: pablokabute]
#26756271 - 06/19/20 03:39 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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To answer your question it shouldn't really be rocking at all, but only because it's loud and annoying. You certainly won't jeopardize your sterility by letting it rock.
Once it gets close to rocking (you can tell by the sound) turn the heat down low enough to stop it from rocking but high enough to maintain pressure. You'll find the sweet spot after a few cooks.
I check the pressure by gently flicking the top of the jiggle weight. If steam shoots out after you poke it, you're good.
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Re: I feel like Ive been over sterilizing all my of jars thos whole time [Re: metaphoric]
#26756292 - 06/19/20 04:03 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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metaphoric said: Once it gets close to rocking (you can tell by the sound) turn the heat down low enough to stop it from rocking but high enough to maintain pressure. You'll find the sweet spot after a few cooks.
Yaaas. Thats how pc works
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Re: I feel like Ive been over sterilizing all my of jars thos whole time [Re: pablokabute]
#26756416 - 06/19/20 06:29 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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The weight is supposed to toggle (I. E. Pop up and release stream momentarily) once a minute to maintain 15 psi.
If it's not toggling your not maintaining pressure.
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Re: I feel like Ive been over sterilizing all my of jars thos whole time [Re: lefty24] 1
#26759237 - 06/20/20 06:55 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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lefty24 said: The weight is supposed to toggle (I. E. Pop up and release stream momentarily) once a minute to maintain 15 psi.
If it's not toggling your not maintaining pressure.
LOL please don't listen to this guy. Steam should not be shooting out of the weight at all. It's not going to hurt anything if you do but its loud and annoying and entirely unnecessary.
I guess you could say in this instance that lefty is not righty 😂 YW for the ultimate dad joke
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Re: I feel like Ive been over sterilizing all my of jars thos whole time [Re: metaphoric]
#26759301 - 06/20/20 07:43 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
metaphoric said:
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lefty24 said: The weight is supposed to toggle (I. E. Pop up and release stream momentarily) once a minute to maintain 15 psi.
If it's not toggling your not maintaining pressure.
LOL please don't listen to this guy. Steam should not be shooting out of the weight at all. It's not going to hurt anything if you do but its loud and annoying and entirely unnecessary.
I guess you could say in this instance that lefty is not righty 😂 YW for the ultimate dad joke
Actually what he said is exactly correct
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Re: I feel like Ive been over sterilizing all my of jars thos whole time [Re: bodhisatta]
#26759358 - 06/20/20 08:23 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said:
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metaphoric said:
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lefty24 said: The weight is supposed to toggle (I. E. Pop up and release stream momentarily) once a minute to maintain 15 psi.
If it's not toggling your not maintaining pressure.
LOL please don't listen to this guy. Steam should not be shooting out of the weight at all. It's not going to hurt anything if you do but its loud and annoying and entirely unnecessary.
I guess you could say in this instance that lefty is not righty 😂 YW for the ultimate dad joke
Actually what he said is exactly correct 
Lol bod I respect your opinion but no, it isn't. If you do it that way your jars will become sterilized, you're not going to hurt anything but that is not proper usage of a pressure cooker. Look up any tutorials of people using them for canning fruits, jams, etc and you will see no professionals advising you to have loud ass steam bursting out of the PC every minute lol that would be obnoxious.
You keep the heat so it's just about to burst, so you're at 14.9 pounds of pressure. If you're anal about being above 15 pounds, tape a couple quarters to your weight but there is not a single valid reason you should have to listen to your PC expel steam 90 times each cook.
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Re: I feel like Ive been over sterilizing all my of jars thos whole time [Re: metaphoric]
#26759365 - 06/20/20 08:26 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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No one said anything about loud as bursts of steam. Have you used a pressure cooker yet?
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Re: I feel like Ive been over sterilizing all my of jars thos whole time [Re: bodhisatta]
#26759372 - 06/20/20 08:30 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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lefty24 said:(I. E. Pop up and release stream momentarily) once a minute to maintain 15 psi.
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bodhisatta said: Have you used a pressure cooker yet?
Yes
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Re: I feel like Ive been over sterilizing all my of jars thos whole time [Re: bodhisatta]
#26759373 - 06/20/20 08:30 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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It should do this around every minute or so. No loud bursts.
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Re: I feel like Ive been over sterilizing all my of jars thos whole time [Re: bodhisatta]
#26759380 - 06/20/20 08:36 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Agreed, that's proper. I'm not seeing any release of steam in that video.
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Re: I feel like Ive been over sterilizing all my of jars thos whole time [Re: metaphoric]
#26759385 - 06/20/20 08:39 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Because steam is invisible. What's coming out of the cooker............................... Fucking steam lol
You can't see steam. You can see water vapor in air
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Re: I feel like Ive been over sterilizing all my of jars thos whole time [Re: metaphoric]
#26759395 - 06/20/20 08:48 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Cooker in video is already vented. All that's inside is steam. Tell me what's coming out of the cooker in the video. It's not air. It's not water vapor. It's steam. It's not loud. It's not a burst either. No one mentioned bursts our loud noises besides yourself.
Presto wants the cooker to rattle the weight the entire cook. Mycologists get it down to once a minute. Smart mycologists realize they can put a quarter on the weight and run it at 15 psi with a weight that handles 15+ so long as they don't do heroin during the cycle.
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Re: I feel like Ive been over sterilizing all my of jars thos whole time [Re: bodhisatta]
#26759398 - 06/20/20 08:51 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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If you tell someone who is already confused about how to properly use a PC, to make the weight pop up and release steam, the poor guy is going to overheat his cooker and have it bursting non-stop.
And generally speaking steam is not invisible. If tiny amounts of invisible steam is what you are talking about then you need to be more clear with OP who's new to using a pressure cooker because he's not a psychic mind reader and he's probably going to misinterpret what you're trying to say.
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Re: I feel like Ive been over sterilizing all my of jars thos whole time [Re: metaphoric]
#26759408 - 06/20/20 08:58 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm not entirely worried one about interpretation since I have an entire how to use your cooker for mycology tek out there
First of all OP can read a pressure cooker manual first before asking strangers on the internet. Second of all you cant overheat anything with liquid water in it anyway. Thirdly you would just run out of water, faster, if you run a pressure cooker on a overheated stove/hot plate. Which would be annoying and loud so you wouldn't anyway.
And again you're the only one that brought up loud bursts. Everyone else knows its a tsk tsk tsk gentle rattling noise.
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Re: I feel like Ive been over sterilizing all my of jars thos whole time [Re: bodhisatta]
#26759415 - 06/20/20 09:02 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Good to know you're not worried about someone new getting it wrong. That's great work TC
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Re: I feel like Ive been over sterilizing all my of jars thos whole time [Re: metaphoric]
#26759422 - 06/20/20 09:05 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm not worried at all... That's what the good info is for. You're just trying to have a last word. And you can. feel free to reply to this post. I won't be back this thread is done.
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Re: I feel like Ive been over sterilizing all my of jars thos whole time [Re: bodhisatta]
#26759568 - 06/20/20 10:29 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Don't worry meta he told everyone to eat fruitbodies that taste like ammonia in one of my threads. His concern for being right is obviously greater than learning to pass on teachings in a "safe" way.
Every time I've seen a PC expel steam it made loud hiss but since we all hear things differently maybe it wasn't so loud to a 10 year old and maybe even louder for an 80yr old. And whether it's technically air or water or steam or what the fuck ever comes out the top I know I can see it very well.
But if the pc isnt pressurized and the top is venting then obviously it's not loud at all and you can't see anything CAUSE NO PRESSURE IS WITHIN.....But clearly if it vented every so often momentarily it would only be because it had pressure inside and would probably vent loudly and with a clear visual of steam or air or water vapor or whatever little technicality bods looking for today.....metaphoric I totally get what your saying and especially the fact that this was involving the "proper" use of of pc....not the moderation style use we do with them for mush
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Re: I feel like Ive been over sterilizing all my of jars thos whole time [Re: bodhisatta]
#26759581 - 06/20/20 10:35 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Pressure feelz so goood 
If you don't have a gauge on your PC, the way to tell it's at 15 psi (or whatever it's rated for) is when the weight bobbles, shakes, whatever and releases a little steam.
If you have it doing that constantly then you're trying to go too high for the Pc and it will constantly be letting out steam to try to stay at its rated pressure - annoying and it might run out of water. If you have it releasing steam every once in a while then you know you're good. If it never releases steam and the weight just sits there you could be close to pressure or way under and not know it.
I know most of you know that but I was just trying to get the final word in.
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Re: I feel like Ive been over sterilizing all my of jars thos whole time [Re: Roger Clemency]
#26759643 - 06/20/20 11:08 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I hate when people make me side with bod 
Just kidding, bod!
Steam is invisible. Gaseous water is not the same as water vapor, which is visible.
Can you see air? Can you see nitrous oxide? Can you see co2? The answer is no and the reason is because gases are invisible, including gaseous water.
@metaphoric- best to know what youre talkin about before debating. You legit couldnt have been more misinformed about this topic.
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Re: I feel like Ive been over sterilizing all my of jars thos whole time [Re: natedawgnow]
#26759752 - 06/20/20 12:19 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bod and I were describing the exact same thing Nate. You even read the thread bro?
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Re: I feel like Ive been over sterilizing all my of jars thos whole time [Re: metaphoric]
#26759845 - 06/20/20 01:13 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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You must be trippin. I read the thread and its obvious you 2 arent saying the same things.
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Re: I feel like Ive been over sterilizing all my of jars thos whole time [Re: natedawgnow]
#26759848 - 06/20/20 01:14 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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You said the pc rocker shouldnt rock at all. Well youre wrong.
You said steam isnt invisible, well youre wrong.
Etc.
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Re: I feel like Ive been over sterilizing all my of jars thos whole time [Re: natedawgnow]
#26759861 - 06/20/20 01:21 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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When Bod showed the video, we were in agreement. The issue was the terminology. I felt like their instructions would be misinterpreted by OP because they worded it exactly the same way you would word an incorrect method of overheating to make your weight jump up and release steam.
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Re: I feel like Ive been over sterilizing all my of jars thos whole time [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
#26759872 - 06/20/20 01:27 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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CatsLoveHouseMusic said: I think I have mine rocking way too much.
We don't know if op is using the term 'rocking' the same way you do. If he was actually describing overheating then the advice he got wouldn't have helped him at all. That's what I was trying to address.
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Re: I feel like Ive been over sterilizing all my of jars thos whole time [Re: metaphoric]
#26759906 - 06/20/20 01:47 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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The AA manual says 1-3 jiggles per minute. 
Edit: What does the manual of your pc instruct?
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Re: I feel like Ive been over sterilizing all my of jars thos whole time [Re: Kimble]
#26759943 - 06/20/20 01:58 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Worked in a steel mill…had to carry a board in front of me when going thru our boiler house so I could tell if there was a steam leak (usually cut the board) because they were invisible.
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Re: I feel like Ive been over sterilizing all my of jars thos whole time [Re: Ratsandtats]
#26760003 - 06/20/20 02:25 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Steam trace for piping was replaced by glycol simply because steam leaks were so dangerous. Invisible, silent and will cut your arm off clean.
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#26760164 - 06/20/20 03:51 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Steam trace for piping was replaced by glycol simply because steam leaks were so dangerous. Invisible, silent and will cut your arm off clean.
My father was a steam turbine engineer. Also a pathological liar. But he did say once that they used to use broomstick handles to look for steam leaks in pipes. If your broom handle got cut in half you found the leak.
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Re: I feel like Ive been over sterilizing all my of jars thos whole time [Re: bodhisatta]
#26760366 - 06/20/20 05:52 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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You adjust the flame so the weight toggles once a minute. It's not hard and that's how a pressure cooker operates. I didn't say to crank it up like crazy.
And yes steam actually shoots out!! It's supposed to when the weight toggles.
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