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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: cannabinated] 1
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Yah or they deal with all our worse scum and see all the ugliest parts of how terrible you people really are only to get spit on and called murderers. I would have walked away as soon as they burnt down my city. I just feel bad for people who can't defend themselves.
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: tyrannicalrex] 2
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tyrannicalrex said: "People are phonies when it comes to race relations. All I see is upper middle class white people demanding equality and the stop to racism. But guess what? They don't want any minorities living in their 95% all whites communities. Try to present an affordable housing development project in their town and see what happens. "
Truth!
Or we could just try and address the issue of poverty in a slightly holistic and better way - which is really the biggest cause of crime, and it makes total sense that it'll bring crime. Especially when housing projects and government assistance that act as a crutch often making it impossible for people to actually get out from under it. With the welfare cliff pretty much incentivizing people to stay poor - my roommate is a single mom that moved in with me on food stamps, wic, medicaid and other government assistance, she managed to claw her way out of it only with lots of help..I could rant for hours about how difficult it is, but I'm digressing.
I grew up in a super upper middle class 'hood with tons of diversity, pretty much no crime, often the only white kid aside from my brother in our group of pals. There was the odd racist there for sure, and my mom definitely heard comments, but for the most part I actually think it skewed my idea of how prevalent racism was. Didn't fully grasp it, or understand why there's a difference between systemic racism and average everyday bigotry on a person to person basis. I think that's what most people are honestly hoping for when they say 'improve race relations'. Don't bus suburban kids into the ghettos to make everything equally terrible for everyone(actual thing I know some states did back in the day), fucking improve the situation.
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: pirate-blues]
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People are phonies when it comes to race relations. All I see is upper middle class white people demanding equality and the stop to racism. But guess what? They don't want any minorities living in their 95% all whites communities.
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: mndfreeze]
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: deucedbi9]
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ATLANTA — Prosecutors brought murder charges Wednesday against the white Atlanta police officer who shot Rayshard Brooks in the back, saying that Brooks was not a deadly threat and that the officer kicked the wounded black man and offered no medical treatment for over two minutes as he lay dying on the ground.
Brooks, 27, was holding a stun gun he had snatched from officers, and he fired it at them during the clash, but he was running away at the time and was 18 feet, 3 inches from Officer Garrett Rolfe when Rolfe started shooting, District Attorney Paul Howard said in announcing the charges. Stun guns have a range of around 15 feet.
“I got him!” the prosecutor quoted Rolfe as saying.
The felony murder charge against Rolfe, 27, carries life in prison or the death penalty, if prosecutors decide to seek it. He was also charged with 10 other offenses punishable by decades behind bars.
The decision to prosecute came less than five days after the killing outside a Wendy’s restaurant rocked a city — and a nation — already roiled by the death of George Floyd under a police officer’s knee in Minneapolis late last month.
“We’ve concluded at the time that Mr. Brooks was shot that he did not pose an immediate threat of death,” Howard said.
A second officer, Devin Brosnan, 26, stood on Brooks’ shoulder as he struggled for his life, Howard said. Brosnan was charged with aggravated assault and violating his oath.
The district attorney said Brosnan is cooperating with prosecutors and will testify, saying it was the first time in 40 such cases in which an officer had come forward to do so. But an attorney for Brosnan emphatically denied he had agreed to be a prosecution witness and said he was not pleading guilty to anything.
A lawyer for Brooks’ widow cautioned that the charges were no reason to rejoice.
“We shouldn’t have to celebrate as African Americans when we get a piece of justice like today. We shouldn’t have to celebrate and parade when an officer is held accountable,” attorney L. Chris Stewart said.
Brooks’ widow, Tomika Miller, said it was painful to hear the new details of what happened to her husband in his final minutes.
“I felt everything that he felt, just by hearing what he went through, and it hurt. It hurt really bad,” she said.
The news came on a day of rapid developments involving race and equal justice. Republicans on Capitol Hill unveiled a package of police reform measures. And the movement to get rid of Confederate monuments and other racially offensive symbols reached America’s breakfast table, with the maker of Aunt Jemima syrup and pancake mix dropping the 131-year-old brand.
Brooks’ killing Friday night sparked new demonstrations in Georgia’s capital against police brutality after occasionally turbulent protests over Floyd’s death had largely died down. Atlanta Police Chief Erika Shields resigned less than 24 hours after Brooks died, and the Wendy’s restaurant was burned.
This screen grab taken from body camera video provided by the Atlanta Police Department shows Rayshard Brooks speaking with Officer Garrett Rolfe in the parking lot of a Wendy’s restaurant, late Friday, June 12, 2020, in Atlanta. Rolfe has been fired following the fatal shooting of Brooks and a second officer has been placed on administrative duty. (Atlanta Police Department via AP) Rolfe was fired after the shooting, while Brosnan was placed on desk duty.
Ahead of the district attorney’s announcement, Rolfe’s lawyers issued a statement saying the officer feared for his safety and that of others around him and was justified in shooting Brooks. Rolfe opened fire after hearing a sound “like a gunshot and saw a flash in front of him,” apparently from the stun gun.
“Mr. Brooks violently attacked two officers and disarmed one of them. When Mr. Brooks turned and pointed an object at Officer Rolfe, any officer would have reasonably believed that he intended to disarm, disable or seriously injure him,” the lawyers said.
But the district attorney said the stun gun that Brooks held had already been fired twice and was thus empty and no longer a threat.
Brosnan’s lawyer, Amanda Clark Palmer, said the charges against the officer were baseless. She said Brosnan stood on the wounded man’s hand, not his shoulder, for a short period of time — seconds — to make sure Brooks did not have a weapon.
Police had been called to the restaurant over complaints of a car blocking the drive-thru lane. An officer found Brooks asleep behind the wheel, and a breath test showed he was intoxicated.
Police body-camera video showed Brooks and officers having a relatively calm and respectful conversation — “almost jovial,” according to the district attorney — for more than 40 minutes before things rapidly turned violent when officers tried to handcuff him. Brooks wrestled with officers, grabbed one of their stun guns and fired it at one of them as he ran through the parking lot.
An autopsy found he was shot twice in the back. One shot pierced his heart, the district attorney said. At least one bullet went into a vehicle that was in line at the Wendy’s drive-thru.
After Brooks was shot, he was given no medical attention for over two minutes, despite Atlanta police policy that says officers must offer timely help, Howard said.
The district attorney said Rolfe and Brosnan had until 6 p.m. Thursday to surrender. He said he would request $50,000 bond for Brosnan and no bail for Rolfe.
The charges reflect a potential “sea change” in tolerance for violence by police, said Caren Morrison, a Georgia State University law professor who used to be a federal prosecutor.
Morrison said the view until now has generally been that officers are justified in using deadly force in a case in which the suspect had a stun gun or other weapon that could cause “grievous bodily harm.”
Later Wednesday there had been reports that Atlanta police officers were walking off the job or calling in sick in protest of the charges against Rolfe and Brosnan. The APD said in a Tweet that it is experiencing a higher than usual number of officers calling out for their shifts but that, “We have enough resources to maintain operations & remain able to respond to incidents.”
Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms said on CNN that many of the department’s partners had been notified just in case they needed to call others in but that “we are fine” (tonight) and that the true test would be on Thursday.
“If we have officers that don’t want bad officers weeded out the force then that’s another conversation we need to have,” Bottoms said.
In the Minneapolis case, Derek Chauvin, the officer who put his knee on Floyd’s neck for several minutes, has been charged with murder. Three other officers have been charged with aiding and abetting. All four were fired and could get up to 40 years in prison.
In Washington, meanwhile, Senate Republicans announced the most ambitious GOP police-reform package in years, including an enhanced use-of-force database, restrictions on chokeholds and new commissions to study law enforcement and race.
The bill is not as sweeping as a Democratic proposal set for a House vote next week, but it shows how swiftly the national debate has been transformed since Floyd’s death.
A new poll by The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research says more Americans today than five years ago believe police brutality is a very serious problem that too often goes undisciplined and unequally targets black Americans.
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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THx T-rexstickles.
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: qman] 1
#26754444 - 06/18/20 02:09 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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qman said: People get off "scott free" for being racist? Yes, if it's just their mindset and don't act on it. If they act on it, that's not the case anymore as their reputation/employment is destroyed in a matter of hours from social media.
Except this is the uncommon outcome most people who act on it, publicly post opinions on it do not have their reputations destroyed by it just like the MP who was called a racist and threw a tantrum until the one who called him racist was kicked out
most people who post shit on the Shroomery do not see reprecussions for it other members have to vigorously call it out for staff to deal with it and a bunch of other members will rush to defense
but please go on further about how dangerous and scary it is to be a racist and risk being known for it
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qman said: People are phonies when it comes to race relations. All I see is upper middle class white people demanding equality and the stop to racism. But guess what? They don't want any minorities living in their 95% all whites communities. Try to present an affordable housing development project in their town and see what happens. 
Yeah, and these same people will try to use claims like "blacks are more violent" or "blacks are criminals" to keep them out of their communities, while claiming it is a preference for blacks to live together in poorer communities than to be unusual in a white community and they are typically not the people out protesting in support of making the US less racist since the US has so many issues with systemic racism
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: koods]
#26754449 - 06/18/20 02:10 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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People are phonies when it comes to race relations. All I see is upper middle class white people demanding equality and the stop to racism. But guess what? They don't want any minorities living in their 95% all whites communities.
Sounds made up
To me it sounded like qman lives in a 95% white community and tries to keep people out while claiming race issues are not a problem
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Tantrika]
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boarding up courthouse to announce no charges on breonnas death
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: koods] 1
#26754636 - 06/18/20 03:05 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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You see this shit?
Facebook Removes Trump Ads Displaying Symbol Used by Nazis Nazis used a red triangle to classify political prisoners during World War II. The Trump campaign said the red triangle in its Facebook ads was associated with antifa, a claim experts rejected.
Facebook said it removed the Trump campaign’s ads for “violating our policy against organized hate.” Facebook said it removed the Trump campaign’s ads for “violating our policy against organized hate.”Credit...Doug Mills/The New York Times Annie Karni By Annie Karni June 18, 2020 Updated 4:57 p.m. ET
215 WASHINGTON — Facebook on Thursday removed advertisements posted on its platform by the Trump campaign that prominently featured a symbol used by Nazis to classify political prisoners during World War II, saying the imagery violated company policy.
The Trump campaign had used the ads, with a picture of a large red triangle, to inveigh against antifa, a loose collective of anti-fascist protesters that President Trump has blamed for violence and vandalism during the nationwide protests against racial injustice. There is scant evidence that antifa has been involved in any coordinated campaigns during the demonstrations.
“Dangerous MOBS of far-left groups are running through our streets and causing absolute mayhem,” the campaign’s Facebook ads said. Beneath the text was the red triangle, a symbol that Nazis used to identify Communists and other political prisoners in concentration camps, just as they used a pink triangle to identify people they labeled as homosexual.
It was not clear if the Trump campaign was familiar with the origin of the symbol, which was reclaimed after World War II by some anti-fascists in Britain and Germany, in the same way that various political groups over the years have reclaimed words and symbols used to oppress them.
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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this is just propaganda
they are both partners in crime
and this is a publicity play for facebook and a trump ad at the same time
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: cannabinated]
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Yeah wasn't there some shit about facebook paying a bunch of money in to trumps ad campaign? facebook prolly funded the ads, then pulled them once people complained
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: koods]
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People are phonies when it comes to race relations. All I see is upper middle class white people demanding equality and the stop to racism. But guess what? They don't want any minorities living in their 95% all whites communities.
Sounds made up
Every affluent all white community in my state is now forming 'equality task committees" and BLM protests. There's nothing made up about it.
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Tantrika]
#26754829 - 06/18/20 04:05 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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qman said: People get off "scott free" for being racist? Yes, if it's just their mindset and don't act on it. If they act on it, that's not the case anymore as their reputation/employment is destroyed in a matter of hours from social media.
Except this is the uncommon outcome most people who act on it, publicly post opinions on it do not have their reputations destroyed by it just like the MP who was called a racist and threw a tantrum until the one who called him racist was kicked out
most people who post shit on the Shroomery do not see reprecussions for it other members have to vigorously call it out for staff to deal with it and a bunch of other members will rush to defense
but please go on further about how dangerous and scary it is to be a racist and risk being known for it
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qman said: People are phonies when it comes to race relations. All I see is upper middle class white people demanding equality and the stop to racism. But guess what? They don't want any minorities living in their 95% all whites communities. Try to present an affordable housing development project in their town and see what happens. 
Yeah, and these same people will try to use claims like "blacks are more violent" or "blacks are criminals" to keep them out of their communities, while claiming it is a preference for blacks to live together in poorer communities than to be unusual in a white community and they are typically not the people out protesting in support of making the US less racist since the US has so many issues with systemic racism
No, they claim not to be racist and then act completely differently. They claim to want diversity and equality, but they choose to live in all white communities and will never approve of low income housing projects.
BTW, their excuses are always about protecting the property values and education system budget. They never dare to mention the criminal aspect, they're not stupid.
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: qman]
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Tantrika]
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People are phonies when it comes to race relations. All I see is upper middle class white people demanding equality and the stop to racism. But guess what? They don't want any minorities living in their 95% all whites communities.
Sounds made up
To me it sounded like qman lives in a 95% white community and tries to keep people out while claiming race issues are not a problem

Well, that's not a very nice thing to say. Here I am trying to give you real life scenarios about living in almost all white communities and you now choose to ridicule me about it?
Yes, my affluent community is at least 95% white and we had all the typical anti-racist programs and protests. We talk the talk, but won't walk the walk.
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: qman]
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People are phonies when it comes to race relations. All I see is upper middle class white people demanding equality and the stop to racism. But guess what? They don't want any minorities living in their 95% all whites communities.
Sounds made up
To me it sounded like qman lives in a 95% white community and tries to keep people out while claiming race issues are not a problem

Well, that's not a very nice thing to say. Here I am trying to give you real life scenarios about living in almost all white communities and you now choose to ridicule me about it?
Yes, my affluent community is at least 95% white and we had all the typical anti-racist programs and protests. We talk the talk, but won't walk the walk.
It is not nice to recognize by you saying "All I see is upper middle class white people" that you are prolly referencing your direct community rather than a made up one? how is that ridiculing you?
Then you go on to state that you indeed did reference the community you live in and it does indeed try to keep people out

if I said "all I see are privileged white multi-generational farmers" would you think me to be talking about a made up community, my local community, or the general white community
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People are phonies when it comes to race relations. All I see is upper middle class white people demanding equality and the stop to racism. But guess what? They don't want any minorities living in their 95% all whites communities.
Sounds made up
Every affluent all white community in my state is now forming 'equality task committees" and BLM protests. There's nothing made up about it.
all white community? I’ve never seen an all white community, at least an affluent one
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Tantrika]
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People are phonies when it comes to race relations. All I see is upper middle class white people demanding equality and the stop to racism. But guess what? They don't want any minorities living in their 95% all whites communities.
Sounds made up
To me it sounded like qman lives in a 95% white community and tries to keep people out while claiming race issues are not a problem

Well, that's not a very nice thing to say. Here I am trying to give you real life scenarios about living in almost all white communities and you now choose to ridicule me about it?
Yes, my affluent community is at least 95% white and we had all the typical anti-racist programs and protests. We talk the talk, but won't walk the walk.
It is not nice to recognize by you saying "All I see is upper middle class white people" that you are prolly referencing your direct community rather than a made up one? how is that ridiculing you?
Then you go on to state that you indeed did reference the community you live in and it does indeed try to keep people out

if I said "all I see are privileged white multi-generational farmers" would you think me to be talking about a made up community, my local community, or the general white community
You suggested I'm trying to keep a specific of group out of my community and that's a highly insulting insinuation.
You also suggested I'm completely insensitive to the racial issues, another insulting statement.
My original statement was in reference to my own community and many many others as well. It is possible to notice events in my local community and my surrounding communities as well.
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