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How would I go about measuring vibrations?
#26754242 - 06/18/20 12:28 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I used to meditate more. 25 minutes twice per day. I cut back to 10 minutes per day and I do 5 minutes of mantra chanting before hand. The mantra seems to help me make the 10 minutes of meditation the best 10 minutes I can get. I chant a very powerful mantra, supposedly the most powerful mantra in Hinduism, "gayatri mantra". I am indian and I was given this mantra as a child. I believed in God back then, but I have come to new conclusions. I don't believe in God persay, but I do believe that there could be a force far beyond my comprehension that moves time forward and perpetuates the universe in a cylical nature without any real "plan" for it. I started the mantra chanting almost 8-12 months ago when I realized it was good prep for meditation. I do 108 per day, and I have had 3 events or occurrences happen to me which had they not happened, my life would have taken a horrible turn for the worse just in this time span(death, severe/permanent injuries, being laid off, severe depression that could have lasted decades etc.).
Gayatri Mantra and other mantras are supposed to cause the metaphysical layer of the universe actually bend to your favor and give you better life outcomes as a result. I was incredibly skeptical but did the mantra more for the fact it preps you for meditation. But due to my experiences this year I am starting to question what is true and what is untrue. My question is how would I test that this mantra actually produces a "luck effect"? The only answer would be to do it for another year and test if it has this effect? The problem is that is my luck just good by chance? Or was it the mantra that caused it? I need a control subject. My only option would be to chant it and assume nothing about its powers other than it seems to help meditation.
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Re: How would I go about measuring vibrations? [Re: topdog82]
#26754292 - 06/18/20 01:00 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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what is the bloody diff!
this activity (meditation) is not a consumer product! in fact all it is is what you do.
doing changes your mind during the doing. if you are not happy with that, you are in the wrong department.
maybe try spiritualism and ghosts.
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Re: How would I go about measuring vibrations? [Re: redgreenvines]
#26754298 - 06/18/20 01:04 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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There's a new energy science out there that basically (nutshell) reverses speakers.
Usually it's power magnetism vibration.
They have vibration magnetism power.
Could be the next big thing to be honest we are surrounded by vibration some known...some not.
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Re: How would I go about measuring vibrations? [Re: redgreenvines]
#26754329 - 06/18/20 01:19 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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redgreenvines said: what is the bloody diff!
this activity (meditation) is not a consumer product! in fact all it is is what you do.
doing changes your mind during the doing. if you are not happy with that, you are in the wrong department.
maybe try spiritualism and ghosts.
true. Should I move this to the spirituality forums?
And either way I think it seems to get me a deeper meditation
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Re: How would I go about measuring vibrations? [Re: topdog82]
#26754388 - 06/18/20 01:46 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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topdog82 said: ..... My question is how would I test that this mantra actually produces a "luck effect"? The only answer would be to do it for another year and test if it has this effect? The problem is that is my luck just good by chance? Or was it the mantra that caused it? I need a control subject. My only option would be to chant it and assume nothing about its powers other than it seems to help meditation.
As has been said. before, by many:
"Buddhism (or any serious meditation practice) is not about liberation of the self, but about liberation from the self".
Even an entire book is devoted to this distinction, titled:
"Spiritual Materialism"
. The benefits of meditation, such as increased calmness, are a 'side effect' and the attempt to control them and increase them is well known to be counter productive. . Those practices that do seek to solve problems, such as visualizations and hypnosis, can never result in the deep insights that may eventually arise from a serious impersonal meditation practice.
Edited by laughingdog (06/18/20 01:53 PM)
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Re: How would I go about measuring vibrations? [Re: laughingdog]
#26754453 - 06/18/20 02:12 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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you can do mantras or you can do visualizations, eventually what ever you do do is what you do, it is the mental content, and if it becomes sustainable for a half hour sit or more great!
keeping still and being aware are intangible values in themselves. even if the whole time is spent aware of unsatisfactoriness of the work you are doing, it is still an essential connection with current mental contents, it brings you all to one point.
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Re: How would I go about measuring vibrations? [Re: topdog82]
#26754849 - 06/18/20 04:12 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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First we have to distinguish good vibrations from bad vibrations. A surfboard might help...
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OrgoneConclusion said: First we have to distinguish good vibrations from bad vibrations. A surfboard might help... 
I mean I have a 5 strip of acid for that
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Re: How would I go about measuring vibrations? [Re: topdog82]
#26754925 - 06/18/20 04:44 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: How would I go about measuring vibrations? [Re: topdog82]
#26754928 - 06/18/20 04:45 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I measure and harness vibrations when I surf.
Can recommend half a hit and a surf as a top 5 experience.
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Re: How would I go about measuring vibrations? [Re: topdog82] 1
#26754964 - 06/18/20 04:57 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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My question is how would I test that this mantra actually produces a "luck effect"? The only answer would be to do it for another year and test if it has this effect? The problem is that is my luck just good by chance? Or was it the mantra that caused it? I need a control subject. My only option would be to chant it and assume nothing about its powers other than it seems to help meditation.
If you get some mental benefit, then your overall experience will improve. Is this luck? I think it's a bad application of the word because I associate luck with a random effect. And if you count on luck to come from a process you are holding a faulty belief, and faulty beliefs conflict with reality.
Have no expectations. If you enjoy meditating, meditate. If you get some benefit from it you can draw a correlation, but it's not going to increase your chances of being lucky because it wouldn't be random. It would be because you have a good mood.
FWIW, mantras tend to activate the upper part of the nervous system, which can be helpful in channeling emotion up the spine, if that is what one is trying to do.
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Re: How would I go about measuring vibrations? [Re: topdog82] 1
#26756290 - 06/19/20 04:02 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't understand why you need to measure them? With so much negativity in the world at present you are doing well to keep smiling. Perhaps thats it? Measure the vibrations by the smiles, if the meditation helps you smile even if it makes you cry to get to the smiles it is working and you are advancing in consciousness.
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Re: How would I go about measuring vibrations? [Re: Oldand]
#26756510 - 06/19/20 07:30 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ya that makes sense. If it works it works I guess
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