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Re: Why are some men so socially awkward? [Re: CookieCrumbs] * 3
    #26753011 - 06/17/20 11:08 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Because boys suffer from social neglect, in a way. Their parents and teachers and peers don't push them to develop social skills through direct confrontation and through play.

Dolls and house and other traditional girl games.


Without the practice and the pushing they don't learn how to cope with their blindspots. And therefore appear "normal."



I'm sure that this is a huge contributor. I had to push myself to get past a lot of awkwardness and make friends and meet people, with no outside encouragement, while my sisters are constantly encouraged to push themselves in these aspects even though they're much more outwardly uncomfortable with it than I was at the time (maybe because I didn't know how to express it, or didn't realize I did).

I think sometimes men are expected to just do things while women are pushed and encouraged. Which is good and bad, we get a larger degree of freedom from social expectations but get less guidance.


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Re: Why are some men so socially awkward? [Re: topdog82] * 5
    #26753014 - 06/17/20 11:10 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

He was honest. Would you have preferred that he lied?

This is the weird thing about job interviews, lying is expected and required. "What is your biggest weakness?" really is asking the person to come up with a way to turn a supposed/claimed weakness into a strength. "I work too hard." "I care too much." If it's 100% a lie, that's better than the truth most of the time. If the person really believes all the positive crap they're saying about themselves then they've probably just got a massive ego. You're asking these stupid stock questions and not expecting a real answer, and then when someone gives one you're surprised.

Imagine if someone actually revealed deep down their deepest darkness most severe weakness. You would have shit yourself, but you're the one who asked the question. This is really just a multiple choice test where there are right answers and wrong answers and the truth is irrelevant. He just didn't know that because he's socially incompetent.

I would never have said the things he did, don't get me wrong, but that's not my point. My point is that the guy was honest and you're upset with him for not lying his ass off and giving the stock socially acceptable stupid answers we're all trained to give during interviews.

Also "don't you think you should earn that right?" is a weird thing to ask. Most places don't consider working from home a "right" that has to be "earned." Generally you're either allowed to do it, or required to, or it's not allowed. But you made it sound like some big privilege that has to be earned which is weird. If you don't allow it then don't allow it, but acting like it has to be earned is weird and silly.

In IT and computer related industries there are tons and tons of completely socially incompetent nerds. I think it's a little silly to turn someone away for something that the vast majority of people in IT have in common. A better way to judge him would have been to have him perform some of the tasks required by the job he's applying for.


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Re: Why are some men so socially awkward? [Re: nooneman]
    #26753021 - 06/17/20 11:14 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Also "don't you think you should earn that right?" is a weird thing to ask. Most places don't consider working from home a "right" that has to be "earned." Generally you're either allowed to do it, or required to, or it's not allowed. But you made it sound like some big privilege that has to be earned which is weird. If you don't allow it then don't allow it, but acting like it has to be earned is weird and silly.




Agreed, I don't think I'd like to work remote for a company that had this attitude. If remote isn't part of the culture, it's likely I'll eventually be excluded or lose brownie points for not physically being there even though I work just as much.


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Re: Why are some men so socially awkward? [Re: CookieCrumbs] * 1
    #26753118 - 06/18/20 12:32 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Humans are awkward by nature, like penguins



Disagree. Whilst I suspect we have all been/felt awkward, I do not think that we all are. I'm most at peace amongst a crowd of strangers/new people. I know that's uncommon for us internet folk though. But I know a fuckload of people who are most alive amongst a crowd.

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Right, it's just cuter when women do it.



Sad as it is for me to say this, I suspect that's most often simply because they are more of a challenge to fuck for this reason. End goal is almost always the same when a man views a woman. Challenge is fun.


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Re: Why are some men so socially awkward? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26753234 - 06/18/20 02:04 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I am really quite and shy.


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Re: Why are some men so socially awkward? [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #26753665 - 06/18/20 08:37 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

My definition of awkward might be different from most peoples definition. I think all humans have a physical awkwardness within them. Awkwardness isn't just an inability to mingle or socialize with a crowd. But the human body is an awkward machine physically, and I see the struggle with it in virtually all humans trying to move about this plane of existence, even in those who believe they are 100% free of awkwardness. Even the most suave coolest smoothest person alive. It's there, you can't hide it. Embrace it.


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Re: Why are some men so socially awkward? [Re: topdog82]
    #26753675 - 06/18/20 08:41 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

For the same reason some women are socially awkward.

Personality disorders.


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Re: Why are some men so socially awkward? [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26753690 - 06/18/20 08:47 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

OP is awkward too, it's guaranteed


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Re: Why are some men so socially awkward? [Re: trees]
    #26753815 - 06/18/20 09:35 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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But the human body is an awkward machine physically, and I see the struggle with it in virtually all humans trying to move about this plane of existence, even in those who believe they are 100% free of awkwardness.



OK now I get you completely.

I agree. Having a physical body is an awkward business.


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Re: Why are some men so socially awkward? [Re: trees] * 1
    #26753921 - 06/18/20 10:15 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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trees said:
My definition of awkward might be different from most peoples definition. I think all humans have a physical awkwardness within them. Awkwardness isn't just an inability to mingle or socialize with a crowd. But the human body is an awkward machine physically, and I see the struggle with it in virtually all humans trying to move about this plane of existence, even in those who believe they are 100% free of awkwardness. Even the most suave coolest smoothest person alive. It's there, you can't hide it. Embrace it.






agreed. just own it and try to be kind and honest towards people and they'll forgive a lot of weirdness lol. I get called 'quirky' all the time(which gets VERY tiresome honestly) and I'm pretty sure it's just the girl version of socially awkward. I just don't particularly care if someone thinks I'm weird at this point, so...I rarely feel awkward at all anymore tbh. I definitely would feel very much out of place a lot of the time when I was still giving too many fucks about things that didn't matter, but there's also a much bigger emphasis on social skills for girls so it's easier to wear a bit of a disguise when you need to.

I say just let your freak flag fly, and stop wasting your time and energy.



...I am in a sysops sort of role and I work with a lot of people of this type. Lots of 'I don't need to be nice to people because I'm such a code genius' - except I have to deal with a few different types of engineers too and they're just a whole different breed of weird. You just kind of have to chuckle at it. I think it's a sort of coping mechanism honestly lol. Whatever works for you buddy.


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Re: Why are some men so socially awkward? [Re: pirate-blues] * 1
    #26753932 - 06/18/20 10:21 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I ave had people tell me within a day of working with them, or out and socializing (complete strangers, I never met them) "you're weird!". :shrug: I take it as a compliment.


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Re: Why are some men so socially awkward? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26753935 - 06/18/20 10:22 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

As you should :yes:


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Re: Why are some men so socially awkward? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26753943 - 06/18/20 10:25 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Probably because you people are so terrible to eachother and they have noone or nowhere to turn for comfort. Women are particularly brutal emotionally to most men. Its also why white men have the highest level of suicide because the whole world kicks them around and nobody cares infact they'll be seen as weak and privileged if they ever tried to express that feeling.

Nobody cares kid



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Re: Why are some men so socially awkward? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26753954 - 06/18/20 10:31 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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infact they'll be seen as weak and privileged if they ever tried to express that feeling.





And who is to blame for white men or any men for that matter getting seen as weak and privileged or any other negative things for showing any feelings at all? The parents, mostly the fathers, who were taught by their fathers and so on.


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Re: Why are some men so socially awkward? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26753956 - 06/18/20 10:31 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

yeah but nobody cares kid


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Re: Why are some men so socially awkward? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26753958 - 06/18/20 10:32 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Exactly, you're proving my point!


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Re: Why are some men so socially awkward? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26753959 - 06/18/20 10:33 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

people care about the epidemic of trans suicides or black people dying


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Re: Why are some men so socially awkward? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 1
    #26753962 - 06/18/20 10:34 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Some do. Seemingly not enough.


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Re: Why are some men so socially awkward? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 1
    #26753981 - 06/18/20 10:41 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

No one:

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Re: Why are some men so socially awkward? [Re: SARAtonin] * 1
    #26753994 - 06/18/20 10:51 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

All im saying is just please be nice to EVERYONE or at the very least please stop being so terrible to eachother cuz it makes me really really sad all the time. I know u guys don't care.





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