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Re: Advice on growing P. papuana [Re: Moopers]
    #26969885 - 10/04/20 10:00 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

It depends on the location. I've found them at near sea level and high altitude (1300m+). P.subaeruginosa can be found growing in the vicinity of P.papuana suggesting they do well in temperate climates.
Those near sea level were growing during the tropical summer season among P.cubensis, Pan cyanescens. I'd say they're not especially fussy regarding temps. Room temp should suffice. It may be worth mentioning the species is also capable of surviving a prolonged freeze where they occur at high altitude.


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Re: Advice on growing P. papuana [Re: bobwastaken]
    #26969933 - 10/04/20 10:43 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Super helpful, thank you!


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Re: Advice on growing P. papuana [Re: Moopers]
    #26969980 - 10/04/20 11:57 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Sterilize 3-4 hrs I use wheat bran for the nutes. Then LC direct.


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Re: Advice on growing P. papuana [Re: Celestialexplorer1]
    #26969982 - 10/05/20 12:00 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Hopefully my tray still fruits without the wood. It looks pretty healthy and recovers super quick I think I’ll be alright but definitely logging this in my brain for the next run. Used up all the LC and have two bulk bags and a mini mono which was spawn and pastuerized sub(doing well none the less)


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Re: Advice on growing P. papuana [Re: Celestialexplorer1]
    #26970088 - 10/05/20 02:59 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Those pictures are great.


I can’t imagine living somewhere that so many actives grow.


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Re: Advice on growing P. papuana [Re: A.k.a]
    #26985725 - 10/14/20 06:17 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Think I should put these into fruiting?

They've got veins like a bodybuilder!



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Re: Advice on growing P. papuana [Re: Moopers]
    #26985745 - 10/14/20 06:23 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Here’s what the tray I just cased ten mins ago looked like. I did a thicker casing on this tray and I’m gonna let that sit for a couple days before putting into fruiting.


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Re: Advice on growing P. papuana [Re: Celestialexplorer1]
    #26985786 - 10/14/20 06:46 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Celestialexplorer1 said:
Here’s what the tray I just cased ten mins ago looked like. I did a thicker casing on this tray and I’m gonna let that sit for a couple days before putting into fruiting.




Looks good, I think. I have some violet-style brown rice in vitro quarts that look similar, light mycelium with a few thicker spots. They'll be ready to case in a little over a week.

What do you use for casing?


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Re: Advice on growing P. papuana [Re: Moopers]
    #26986107 - 10/14/20 10:02 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I was thinking peat, verm and clay, maybe 40/40/20 and some CaCO3.


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Re: Advice on growing P. papuana [Re: Moopers]
    #26986502 - 10/15/20 06:37 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Jiffy/verm/sand/gypsum

Mushroom observer says I was found growing in red granite soil next to a pile of sawn logs and logs had been spawn there for years.


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Re: Advice on growing P. papuana [Re: Celestialexplorer1] * 3
    #27086474 - 12/12/20 10:18 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

My P.papuana are beginning to fruit. Only a couple early risers however I'm seeing a lot of primordia forming beneath the casing. substrate is wheat>coir and cased with untreated potting soil. These trays have been in fruiting conditions for near 2 months.

In the meantime I've been working with this species on agar and after going through hundreds of plates I've found 2 cultures which will produce primordia on agar in minimal time. Since Viridis420 was able to fruit the species in a week I'd suspected there may be some fast fruiting strains to be found.


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Re: Advice on growing P. papuana [Re: bobwastaken]
    #27086497 - 12/12/20 11:02 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

That is so amazing. I’m still trying. Just went back to my original spore plate a couple days ago. Great job man I love that black cap.


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Re: Advice on growing P. papuana [Re: Celestialexplorer1]
    #27086709 - 12/13/20 05:01 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks and yes I also love the black capped phenotype.  As long as the mycelium is healthy I think you're in with a fair chance of seeing fruits.:thumbup: I wish I lived closer to where they occur naturally so I could clone and test wild specimens.


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Re: Advice on growing P. papuana [Re: bobwastaken]
    #27086907 - 12/13/20 08:35 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

What are your temps? Also what kinda surface conditions are you keeping. I just pawned some Papuana the other day


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Re: Advice on growing P. papuana [Re: bobwastaken]
    #27097960 - 12/19/20 03:18 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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My P.papuana are beginning to fruit. Only a couple early risers however I'm seeing a lot of primordia forming beneath the casing. substrate is wheat>coir and cased with untreated potting soil. These trays have been in fruiting conditions for near 2 months.

In the meantime I've been working with this species on agar and after going through hundreds of plates I've found 2 cultures which will produce primordia on agar in minimal time. Since Viridis420 was able to fruit the species in a week I'd suspected there may be some fast fruiting strains to be found.




:shockingsurprise:

Amazing work from bobwastaken, as usual!

Very impressive stuff. I've fruited paups a few times now but they all seem to be the basic caramel colored cap. I am really looking for that black phenotype but no luck yet. Also, the few times I have fruited paups they certainly didn't look as healthy as your pics! Look at that shag!

Potting soil casing! It seems like everyone gets really good results with this stuff but me. I suspect that it could just be the specific recipe I was using.


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Re: Advice on growing P. papuana [Re: mycorry]
    #27282176 - 04/26/21 02:52 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks Mycorry:thumbup:

A couple test dishes of P.papuana are pinning. Method was simply selecting a number of sectors from MS and allowing plates to grow out before applying a thin casing of coir/manure. Of 50 cultures two have fruited so far.

The first being a black colored phenotype. Unfortunately it isn't sporulating.






Another culture has produced a striking blue fruit. This specimen is sporulating.:smile: Both types will be cloned and bulk fruiting attempts undertaken.



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Re: Advice on growing P. papuana [Re: bobwastaken]
    #27282284 - 04/26/21 05:53 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

That's sick


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Re: Advice on growing P. papuana [Re: Dart King]
    #27307944 - 05/14/21 07:08 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

amazing thread, beautiful photos thanks for sharing. I have what we believe to be papuana from New Zealand on agar and will be making LC soon.

Thanks for the tips


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