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Pinning keeps stopping, diagnosis?
    #26752407 - 06/17/20 06:20 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Hello there, I'm checking back in with everyone, it's been over a week since pinning starts, but they won't grow. Many of them get white fuzz around them and stop / a few turn dark. New pins are coming in every day, but simply won't grow. Have you seen this before / any advice? Monotub, 78-82 degrees, mist and fan 3x daily.

I know it's not fully colonized, first timer, started fruiting conditions when I saw what you see in photo, any advice on getting them to grow? Thanks in advance! ๐Ÿ™‚


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Re: Pinning keeps stopping, diagnosis? [Re: Californialove543]
    #26752419 - 06/17/20 06:22 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Subbed in, curious myself as a noob.


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Re: Pinning keeps stopping, diagnosis? [Re: CagedApe]
    #26752423 - 06/17/20 06:24 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Hope we can learn together!๐Ÿ˜ƒ


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Re: Pinning keeps stopping, diagnosis? [Re: Californialove543]
    #26752430 - 06/17/20 06:25 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Iโ€™m far from an expert, but it sounds like a lot of mist/fan instead of just letting it breathe and evaporate. The white fuzz is evidence of not enough FAE and/or too much moisture, and the pins turning dark and aborting also sounds like too much moisture.


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Re: Pinning keeps stopping, diagnosis? [Re: Phrontist]
    #26752449 - 06/17/20 06:31 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

that makes sense, perhaps leave the lid open and don't mist or spray for a day or and see what happens?


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Re: Pinning keeps stopping, diagnosis? [Re: Phrontist]
    #26752452 - 06/17/20 06:32 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Have you tried just leaving them?


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Re: Pinning keeps stopping, diagnosis? [Re: CagedApe]
    #26752454 - 06/17/20 06:33 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

My bad


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Re: Pinning keeps stopping, diagnosis? [Re: Californialove543]
    #26752537 - 06/17/20 07:02 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Sounds like you've got her all hot and wet. Sometimes monos don't even need to be misted at all before first flush, depending on the particular environment, ventilation, and initial hydration level of the sub upon spawning. You wanna monitor the surface conditions and adjust ventilation or mist as needed.

A link you might find helpful:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23999053

And if possible, you'll want to bring the temp down to within the 70-75 range, or as close to it as you can


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Re: Pinning keeps stopping, diagnosis? [Re: Apples in Mono]
    #26752562 - 06/17/20 07:08 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

haha thank you for the advice! I'll give that a try, and take a look at that link.


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Re: Pinning keeps stopping, diagnosis? [Re: Californialove543]
    #26752643 - 06/17/20 07:46 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

From my understanding, the ideal monotub scenario is that your substrate has proper moisture (field capacity) and your FAE is dialed in so that the moisture is evaporating quickly enough to not stall progress, but not so quickly it dries out your substrate. The whole point of the mono is to be hands off (as much as possible).

So I look at it like this: if moisture is a bit low I mist to correct, if moisture is a bit high I fan to correct. If I find myself needing to do both, then I did one of them wrong. And if I find myself doing either on a regular basis, then my tub isnโ€™t dialed in properly.

Hope that helps.


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Re: Pinning keeps stopping, diagnosis? [Re: Phrontist]
    #26755183 - 06/18/20 06:09 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

that makes alot of sense, and helps. Thank you!


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