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Struggling to succeed w/ Bods Mono tek, Any advice is greatly appreciated.
    #26752250 - 06/17/20 05:22 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I'm running unmodified mono tubs following Bods tek, the tubs are inside of a 4x8 grow tent, I'm not really sure what I'm doing wrong but I feel like it has something to do with FAE and humidity, I had fuzzy feet on my first flush from a few tubs, should I be pulling air through the tent the tubs are sitting in?  I do have a fan set up in case I need to do this.  all genetics were isolated on agar>rye>coir

I have a lot of condensation on the walls in my tubs but then the substrate surface will sometimes be dry.  In some of the other tubs its the opposite, there will be condensation on walls but the surface still has water droplets on it, my mushrooms aren't growing to full size either, caps are opening when theyre tiny and skinny, I feel like I'm kinda all over the place with this.  Am I eventually wanting to see evaporation of all water drops on substrate surface, like on a daily basis, and once that occurs..that is when you mist, let evaporate and the process repeats itself sorta deal?

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Re: Struggling to succeed w/ Bods Mono tek, Any advice is greatly appreciated. [Re: Timestop413]
    #26752316 - 06/17/20 05:47 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Bod’s unmodified tub tek works great with them just setting out in the room. What’s the tent for? Is there any ventilation in that tent at all? You can grow mush in a tent, or in tubs, but combining the two may be keeping the humidity and or CO2 levels too high. Also I see a lamp setting directly on one of your tubs, that may be heating up that tub. Is that the one with the dry substrate?


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Re: Struggling to succeed w/ Bods Mono tek, Any advice is greatly appreciated. [Re: RoscoeReturns]
    #26752372 - 06/17/20 06:07 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Have you had a successful grow with any other technique? Why not start with shoeboxes?


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Re: Struggling to succeed w/ Bods Mono tek, Any advice is greatly appreciated. [Re: RoscoeReturns]
    #26752373 - 06/17/20 06:08 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Bod’s unmodified tub tek works great with them just setting out in the room. What’s the tent for? Is there any ventilation in that tent at all? You can grow mush in a tent, or in tubs, but combining the two may be keeping the humidity and or CO2 levels too high. Also I see a lamp setting directly on one of your tubs, that may be heating up that tub. Is that the one with the dry substrate?




I'm not sure what the tent is for to be honest! haha, I just thought it might be a good idea, I grow cannabis organically indoors so I figured some protection from all the soil bacteria and life in my house might not be a bad idea but I have been wondering if this tent is holding me back and I think it is.  I'll try taking the tent down.  And yea..the ones with the lights over them tend to dry out much quicker, the substrate surface on the minimono's dries pretty quick as well, I think its either to much co2 or to much humidity because the mini mono's didn't grow normal sized mushrooms at all, theyre extremely tiny in comparison to fruits I've seen before of this same strain.


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Re: Struggling to succeed w/ Bods Mono tek, Any advice is greatly appreciated. [Re: Timestop413]
    #26752451 - 06/17/20 06:32 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah definitely get them out of the tent. You need some natural air currents pushing air around. Mushrooms aren't like herb so they dont really need a lot of light. They need some to look good and normal but it doesn't have to be intense.


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Re: Struggling to succeed w/ Bods Mono tek, Any advice is greatly appreciated. [Re: Garvaeldt]
    #26752546 - 06/17/20 07:05 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Have you had a successful grow with any other technique? Why not start with shoeboxes?




Yea well I did start out with 6 qt shoebox tubs about two years ago..I've been somewhat successful with the unmodified and modified monotub techs, shoeboxes and 66 quarts/full sizers, I feel comfortable enough to do larger monos, I've experienced some of the same symptoms on the mini mono's that I see on the big ones to, (these were in a closet, and I think its because of low FAE, high co2) but.... I  have achieved pretty big yields with penis envy strain specifically, golden teacher did alright and Alacabenzi threw down pretty heavy before, however I wouldn't say that I've really..."dialed" in my tubs for my environment..ever. I always seem to be changing things and one common factor that I have had across all the grows I've done is....the tubs have always been secluded in small spaces like a grow tent or a closet, where there has been limited FAE, I would think high co2 would come right along with low FAE as there is no fresh air to clear it out.  I've been trying to learn from my own experiences growing them but I felt the need to ask for help here as I was seeing some similar things now that I have in the past.

I took down the tent and have the tubs sitting in the room now.


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Re: Struggling to succeed w/ Bods Mono tek, Any advice is greatly appreciated. [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26752561 - 06/17/20 07:08 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Yeah definitely get them out of the tent. You need some natural air currents pushing air around. Mushrooms aren't like herb so they dont really need a lot of light. They need some to look good and normal but it doesn't have to be intense.





Sweet I had been wondering if that was the case, there is little to zero air movement in the tent, basically stagnant and I had questioned it a few times but never really knew what I was doing, I've taken down the tent and have just put the tubs on shelving in the room the tent was set up in, I don't have central air in my house (there is a swamp cooler) that I turn on whenever it gets to warm for me, do you think I should have a fan ticking on and off in the room I have the tubs in or will air naturally move?


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Re: Struggling to succeed w/ Bods Mono tek, Any advice is greatly appreciated. [Re: Timestop413]
    #26752648 - 06/17/20 07:50 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I'm running unmodified mono tubs following Bods tek, the tubs are inside of a 4x8 grow tent, I'm not really sure what I'm doing wrong but I feel like it has something to do with FAE and humidity, I had fuzzy feet on my first flush from a few tubs, should I be pulling air through the tent the tubs are sitting in?  I do have a fan set up in case I need to do this.  all genetics were isolated on agar>rye>coir

I have a lot of condensation on the walls in my tubs but then the substrate surface will sometimes be dry.  In some of the other tubs its the opposite, there will be condensation on walls but the surface still has water droplets on it, my mushrooms aren't growing to full size either, caps are opening when theyre tiny and skinny, I feel like I'm kinda all over the place with this.  Am I eventually wanting to see evaporation of all water drops on substrate surface, like on a daily basis, and once that occurs..that is when you mist, let evaporate and the process repeats itself sorta deal?

Here are some pics




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Re: Struggling to succeed w/ Bods Mono tek, Any advice is greatly appreciated. [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26753926 - 06/18/20 10:15 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Sweet, thanks bod.

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Re: Struggling to succeed w/ Bods Mono tek, Any advice is greatly appreciated. [Re: Timestop413]
    #26753969 - 06/18/20 10:36 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Yh, leave the tent out. Normal room environment should be enough and I don't think a tent has any advantages over a room environment anyway.

I grow cannabis indoors as well and I use the drying net I normally use for cannabis for my mushies, works great. I just leave the tent open like this since there's no smell.



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Re: Struggling to succeed w/ Bods Mono tek, Any advice is greatly appreciated. [Re: zakzwijn]
    #26753989 - 06/18/20 10:48 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

They look way too wet in the first post pictures.

I’ve never used a tent but it seems like it might not have enough air movement inside.

Your pinset looks fine though.

Anyway number one thing is cut back misting by a lot, that should fix it.


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Re: Struggling to succeed w/ Bods Mono tek, Any advice is greatly appreciated. [Re: zakzwijn]
    #26754091 - 06/18/20 11:29 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Nice this is a great idea, I have a dehydrator but sometimes I have more than can fit in it, is it fine to dry them slowly like that?  I guess I worry about mold/mildew forming, do you run a fan blowing at the drying rack?  Thanks for sharing.


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Re: Struggling to succeed w/ Bods Mono tek, Any advice is greatly appreciated. [Re: A.k.a]
    #26754097 - 06/18/20 11:32 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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They look way too wet in the first post pictures.

I’ve never used a tent but it seems like it might not have enough air movement inside.

Your pinset looks fine though.

Anyway number one thing is cut back misting by a lot, that should fix it.




Definitely, since I've taken the tent down (its only been 12 hours or so) but the tubs are still holding humidity but its not nearly as wet as they were, I think this is gonna work well, thanks for chiming in.


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Re: Struggling to succeed w/ Bods Mono tek, Any advice is greatly appreciated. [Re: Timestop413]
    #26754646 - 06/18/20 03:07 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

What's the temp and humidity in the room? That's a huge factor.


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Re: Struggling to succeed w/ Bods Mono tek, Any advice is greatly appreciated. [Re: Timestop413]
    #26755230 - 06/18/20 06:38 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Nice this is a great idea, I have a dehydrator but sometimes I have more than can fit in it, is it fine to dry them slowly like that?  I guess I worry about mold/mildew forming, do you run a fan blowing at the drying rack?  Thanks for sharing.




No fan, I just leave the tent open as shown. Since it's summer temperatures are starting to climb and currently around 26 degrees C here so they dry pretty fast. Advantage of a drying net is that air can get to it from all sides.


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    #26757077 - 06/19/20 11:11 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Nice this is a great idea, I have a dehydrator but sometimes I have more than can fit in it, is it fine to dry them slowly like that?  I guess I worry about mold/mildew forming, do you run a fan blowing at the drying rack?  Thanks for sharing.




No fan, I just leave the tent open as shown. Since it's summer temperatures are starting to climb and currently around 26 degrees C here so they dry pretty fast. Advantage of a drying net is that air can get to it from all sides.




Yea I like the air getting to all sides idea with these nets, pretty dry 10-40% humidity, 70ish degrees generally.


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Re: Struggling to succeed w/ Bods Mono tek, Any advice is greatly appreciated. [Re: Timestop413]
    #26787233 - 06/27/20 12:00 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Still tryin to get things dialed in here, I know the tech works I just am having issues trying to figure out my own space.  I have no air conditioner in my house, there is a swamp cooler that I turn on occasionally (not every day), but it has me thinking/wondering...is there not enough air current in my room to make this work?  Part of me thinks I'm dealing with low FAE and to high of humidity in tubs, maybe high co2 as well because of the first two...not sure..just learning/thinking it out, hard to tell surface conditions after first flush.  I've decided to run a clip fan in the room 24/7 to help move some air, just trying to change some variables and see if I notice any results. The tub is pinning really tiny mushrooms all along the sides but not much in the center, pins in the center actually aborted other than the bigger one you see growing. 

Any thoughts?





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Re: Struggling to succeed w/ Bods Mono tek, Any advice is greatly appreciated. [Re: Timestop413]
    #26787314 - 06/27/20 12:40 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

It’s way too wet and looks like it might’ve dried out a couple times. I did the same thing my first couple grows.

Just restrict air a lot and quit misting for a couple days and see how it looks. Then if it needs more air dial it up really slow. I have low humidity so idk if it’s the same for other people but opening the lid a tiny crack makes a big difference.


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Re: Struggling to succeed w/ Bods Mono tek, Any advice is greatly appreciated. [Re: A.k.a]
    #26808850 - 07/07/20 11:24 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I would just restart, looks to far gone, I've seen a lot of people have problems with this tek concerning FAE.


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Re: Struggling to succeed w/ Bods Mono tek, Any advice is greatly appreciated. [Re: Timestop413]
    #26882079 - 08/15/20 05:42 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Try a standard 6 hole mono next time.


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