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Hotdog from Space
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Magic mushtroom and the shamanic thing
#26751099 - 06/17/20 09:08 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Now, I've never had a enjoyable experience on magic mushrooms before, then last week I decided to put on some shamanic chanting, sounds and drum beats. What a difference. It was some kind of ayahuasca ceremony stuff. The plants and trees started dancing jazz, The world word was jazzing along with the shamans beat, and we (me and the shaman) were reshaping the world together, the plants really enjoyed it, and so did I.
The whole word was puking and purging demons, while the shaman, the greenery and me were dancing this really trippy shaman-jazz through the whole ordeal ... I could see where all the indigenous art came from. I felt that for the first time I was seeing the world as it is, not the fragmented image that my culture has brainwashes us into believing.
I could also understand the shaman, even though he was speaking a language, if it even was a language, that I did not understand.
So, for anyone having trouble with the mushroom experience, try doing it out in nature, or with some shaman stuff on the stereo. It was so earthy, down to earth, like this is the first time I've seen earth and what we are supposed to do here - puke and purge demons out of our minds.
Edited by Hotdog from Space (06/17/20 09:11 AM)
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LosTresOjos
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What do you mean by demon?
You are describing a common experience in silent darkness. But there is no right way to go about this endeavor.
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Hotdog from Space
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Re: Magic mushtroom and the shamanic thing [Re: LosTresOjos] 1
#26751213 - 06/17/20 09:52 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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demons/mind viruses/wrong thoughts and ideas etc ...
I have tried 5g in silent darkness, but 3g with this shaman stuff was much more to my liking. The shaman stuff kept me grounded and in harmony through the experience.
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Entheogens with music/sound is imo the better way. There's room for silence, but music makes the experience flow forwards and drives the experience, guides the experience, helps things unfold, takes you places that are hard to reach without music. In silence, i've found Entheogens can be static, not flowing, or more uncomfortable/freaky, or harder to reach specific states, though not always, sometimes i like silence, but during the come ups specifically, music for me seems to be the way to go.
Edited by Sabnock (06/17/20 10:29 AM)
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LosTresOjos
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Re: Magic mushtroom and the shamanic thing [Re: Sabnock]
#26751371 - 06/17/20 10:58 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Music is amazing. It's amazing with out a substance. I've had moments while tripping when I felt as if the sounds were being played through me. But I do prefer silent darkness. No distractions that way, just me and the mushroom.
These demons described are not bad. They are what you say. So change your perception and they'll be harmless.
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Re: Magic mushtroom and the shamanic thing [Re: LosTresOjos]
#26751386 - 06/17/20 11:03 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Can we get a link to the shaman stuff you were listening to?
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Re: Magic mushtroom and the shamanic thing [Re: LosTresOjos]
#26751464 - 06/17/20 11:44 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I recently had some shrooms in the wilderness. Feels really healing and wholesome, and when it grew dark and it was time to get in my car and go home (I wasn't tripping anymore) I felt the ugliness of the non-natural world as a bodily sickness.
I think we built this simplified reality to make life easier, but in simplifying things we stole freedom of thought from ourselves, creating instead prisons of deeply entrenched associations. This will take a little explaining, so apologies in advance for a long post.
In nature everything is complex and changing. There are no flat planes or clean surfaces. The trees stir the heavens with their limbs, leaves flick and flitter in the wind, the sun wheels along rewriting shadows, fallen leaves blow about the forest floor, grasses nod the wind, seasons come and go... Everything changes all the time.
In the modern world we sit at home in boxes that never change. Walls and floors and roofs and hallways... Then we up and walk to work along the same concrete paths between the same steel and glass and concrete and brick buildings we saw yesterday and every day before stretching back for years... When we get to work we sit in an unchanging office with unchanging walls and do unchanging repetitive tasks... The modern world lacks in spontenaity.
This is bad for our minds because it's much easier to reinforce patterns with constancy and reiteration. If you sit in your room getting dopamine hits from playing video games your subconscious is constantly associating the dopamine hit with your spatial setting. Studies have shown drug addicts get cravings if they visit a place they've done drugs before.
Our artificial lives that create artificial thought patterns are constantly associated with our unchanging environments, and those unchanging environments are then capable of associatively evoking the artificial thought patterns, and then the thought patterns get associated with the unchanging environs yet again, entrenching the associations in an endless loop of reinforcement.
Our brains love simple things because they're easy to navigate and it's easy to predict what might happen, so we naturally like clean flat planes and uncluttered spaces. But the simplicity of navigating a clean uncluttered space frees up computational effort so your mind can wander, and whatever it wanders to gets subconsciously associated to your surroundings. Since those surroundings don't change they are perfect prompts for subconsciously retrieving previous associations, which then get thought anew in the presence of the unchanging surrounds and the association is reinforced...
In nature things are so complex the simplicity-loving part of your brain gives up trying to make sense of it all, and you can feel that part of your mind relax, and you are freed from the associative prisons of unchanging city life. You feel like you've been freed from a mental maze.
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Hotdog from Space
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The human-made environment is programmed, i.e. the city, city planning all planned and programmed etc... Natures environment is not programmed and in-tune with the mushroom spirit.
I was listening to this:
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Very interesting, nice soothing mix to listen to
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