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#26750868 - 06/17/20 07:17 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Uncle Ben you are next!
Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype' “We recognize Aunt Jemima’s origins are based on a racial stereotype," Quaker Oats said, adding that the move is an effort "toward progress on racial equality
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/aunt-jemima-brand-will-change-name-remove-image-quaker-says-n1231260

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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: viraldrome] 7
#26750882 - 06/17/20 07:24 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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What is racist about it? It's just a black lady.
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#26750883 - 06/17/20 07:26 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I would say she is portrayed positively as a kindly relative. The syrup is trash though, they should discontinue that.
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How is Quaker itself not based on a racial stereotype, by that logic?
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Asante]
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I was thinking the same thing. And yeah Aunt Jemima is trash.
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larry.fisherman said: What is racist about it? It's just a black lady.
Its probably because she represents an old stereotype of older Black Women and how they look. Kinda like how Speedy Gonzalas is a stereotype of Mexican people. Similar sorta thing.
Farewell Aunt Jemima. Your fake maple syrup has done its job slathering our pancakes with sweet, gooey liquid
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larry.fisherman said: What is racist about it? It's just a black lady.
Its racist in that it is a caricature, like a lawn jockey or golliwog doll
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Lets just have plain white boxes and labels that say in Times New Roman font "Syrup" "Cornflakes" and "Rice"
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Asante]
#26750902 - 06/17/20 07:31 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thats the spirit. Make everything Generic as Fuck
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: viraldrome] 1
#26750908 - 06/17/20 07:33 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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RIP Aunt Jemima
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: viraldrome]
#26750912 - 06/17/20 07:38 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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larry.fisherman said: What is racist about it? It's just a black lady.
Its racist in that it is a caricature, like a lawn jockey or golliwog doll
https://www.ferris.edu/jimcrow/mammies/
If the issue is the proportions then that should be easily adjustable. Really the mouth size is the only part that could be considered a caricature imo. The rest is just a black lady. It's pretty tame as far as caricatures are concerned. I've never once heard a complaint about Aunt Jemima
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#26750915 - 06/17/20 07:40 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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"You ain't had pancakes till Aunt Jemima drizzled all over them!"
I think that could be a problem.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26750918 - 06/17/20 07:43 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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larry.fisherman said: What is racist about it? It's just a black lady.
Its probably because she represents an old stereotype of older Black Women and how they look. Kinda like how Speedy Gonzalas is a stereotype of Mexican people. Similar sorta thing.
Farewell Aunt Jemima. Your fake maple syrup has done its job slathering our pancakes with sweet, gooey liquid 
Speedy Gonzales is a cartoon character. Jemima has got a perm like everyone else back in the day. That's what it looks like to me anyway
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Asante] 4
#26750920 - 06/17/20 07:43 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Asante said: Lets just have plain white boxes and labels that say in Times New Roman font "Syrup" "Cornflakes" and "Rice"
In Canada they do.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: viraldrome] 1
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larry.fisherman said: What is racist about it? It's just a black lady.
Its racist in that it is a caricature, like a lawn jockey or golliwog doll
https://www.ferris.edu/jimcrow/mammies/
In her current depiction she looks to me like she mostly fits the stereotype of an older lady who probably goes to church and might well be someone's aunt. But yeah the previous depictions definitely play into the type of stereotype you describe, where a domestic worker might be addressed euphemistically as "Aunt" whatever.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Crazy_Horse]
#26750924 - 06/17/20 07:46 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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This shit is madness and going too far. Aunt Jemima is a fucking legend.
But hey, if we have to take away the face of an iconic black woman from a product in he name of racism, so be it I guess...
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Crazy_Horse] 4
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It had to be done. I loved her but it was time. With Aunt Jemima off our shelves, it's a less racist world now. Combining this with the guns being taken from white incels Elmer Fudd and and Yosemite Sam, I can now safely say that today ladies and gentlemen, we are now living in a vastly safer world.
Next on my wish list:

The blatantly sexist and misogynistic "Hungry Man" tv dinners. This sexist trash has been brazenly taunting us in our frozen food aisles for long enough. Now is the time.
Either change it to "Hungry Human" or GTFO. Now.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Niffla]
#26750932 - 06/17/20 07:49 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Btw not to get back into the whole wing thing since I retired last night -- there ain't no such thing as a MF'n boneless wing (as advertised on that Hungry Man box).
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Niffla]
#26750936 - 06/17/20 07:51 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I grew up on Aunt Jemimah syrup
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Crazy_Horse] 1
#26750939 - 06/17/20 07:51 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Asante said: Lets just have plain white boxes and labels that say in Times New Roman font "Syrup" "Cornflakes" and "Rice"
In Canada they do.

Sold at a store called "No Frills." Lol.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Crazy_Horse] 1
#26750942 - 06/17/20 07:54 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Appears to be a beautiful Native American woman holding some butter. I don't see the problem. My main issue with the depiction is that it appears to be historically inaccurate because I don't think (correct me if I'm wrong) Indian tribes had access to Land O' Lakes butter.
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Get over it!!!!
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Niffla]
#26750950 - 06/17/20 07:58 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I like the boneless wings from Applebee’s. When I worked at a Walmart that was next to an Applebee’s I would show up an hour early for my night shift and see how many 2 dollar beers I could drink before work. Very tiring trying to stay awake for 3rd shift while buzzing / drunk / hungover.
If memory serves it was 1/2 price beer and wings after 9pm and my shift would start at 10pm...This allotted me 56-57 minutes of drinking
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: viraldrome] 3
#26750977 - 06/17/20 08:10 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued
I'm gonna take it a step further. The syrup ISNT discontinued.
AUNT JEMIMA GOT FIRED FROM HER OWN BRAND BECAUSE SHE IS BLACK
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Asante] 1
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Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued
I'm gonna take it a step further. The syrup ISNT discontinued.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Asante] 3
#26751012 - 06/17/20 08:27 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: PatrickKn]
#26751030 - 06/17/20 08:35 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: PatrickKn]
#26751031 - 06/17/20 08:36 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Patlal said: This shit is madness and going too far. Aunt Jemima is a fucking legend.
But hey, if we have to take away the face of an iconic black woman from a product in he name of racism, so be it I guess...
I would rather we took Oprah's book club from her, it's going to be kinda hard to do in the name of racism
In Repo Man they couldn't afford to pay to use any trademarks so the cans just say like "beer" or "food" on them
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Asante]
#26751088 - 06/17/20 09:01 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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AUNT JEMIMA GOT FIRED FROM HER OWN BRAND BECAUSE SHE IS BLACK 
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I get that brands have to stay current and shit, but..
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: viraldrome] 4
#26751107 - 06/17/20 09:12 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Some of you people questioning this seriously need to pick up a book. Not only is it inarguably racist but it is sexist as well.
Let me explain why.
As previously touched upon its one of the biggest examples of the mammy archetype of a matronly black housekeeper widely popularized by the character Aunt Chloe in Harriet Beecher Stowe’s widely successful “Uncle Tom’s Cabin.” While it can not be disputed the attention to the abolitionist movement the book provided and fire to the movement it cultivated the book and Stowe herself were far from flawless, not only did the book promote samboism, but it refined the mammy archetype in the cultural mind if a rapidly industrializing America. It brought forth and normalized the thinking that the role of the black woman was household servitude. This saw its roots during slavery where black woman were not only subjected to the same harsh punishment as their male counterparts but with the addition of rape and other forms of sexual humiliation, but they were also expected to keep up with the men in the fields and tend to house and home during any free time they had at the end of the day, many women where forced to take their children into the fields with them. This stereotype was brought to a head after emancipation during the reconstructionist era when the throngs of free slaves were given little other economic options outside of sharecropping and domestic servitude. It’s here the mammy stereotype thrived as practically every house across the country, north and south, relied upon the long painstaking hours of black woman house keeper, a slave in all but name. The stereotype of the promiscuous black woman who “wanted it” comes from this period of the mammy archetype as it was expected that these “free” black housekeepers were to serve every sexual desire of not only the master of the household but his sons as well.
So ya, fuck aunt Jemima.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: pirate-blues]
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#26751122 - 06/17/20 09:18 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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So ya, fuck aunt Jemima.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: SARAtonin]
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You're totally right Sara and it's definitely that old Southern Mammy stereotype, which I am sure every black lady just loves .
I'm so so sick of brands trying to be all woke so they can sell more shit. It's just constant, and it feels like brands are constantly trying to exploit these feelings and movements to me. But I get that someone in charge looked at the current climate..and looked at their logo, and went.. . And they very well should, I guess, though the execution leaves a little to be desired for me.
Fuck Aunt Jemima though, worst maple syrup everrrr.
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SARAtonin said: Some of you people questioning this seriously need to pick up a book. Not only is it inarguably racist but it is sexist as well.
Let me explain why.
As previously touched upon its one of the biggest examples of the mammy archetype of a matronly black housekeeper widely popularized by the character Aunt Chloe in Harriet Beecher Stowe’s widely successful “Uncle Tom’s Cabin.” While it can not be disputed the attention to the abolitionist movement the book provided and fire to the movement it cultivated the book and Stowe herself were far from flawless, not only did the book promote samboism, but it refined the mammy archetype in the cultural mind if a rapidly industrializing America. It brought forth and normalized the thinking that the role of the black woman was household servitude. This saw its roots during slavery where black woman were not only subjected to the same harsh punishment as their male counterparts but with the addition of rape and other forms of sexual humiliation, but they were also expected to keep up with the men in the fields and tend to house and home during any free time they had at the end of the day, many women where forced to take their children into the fields with them. This stereotype was brought to a head after emancipation during the reconstructionist era when the throngs of free slaves were given little other economic options outside of sharecropping and domestic servitude. It’s here the mammy stereotype thrived as practically every house across the country, north and south, relied upon the long painstaking hours of black woman house keeper, a slave in all but name. The stereotype of the promiscuous black woman who “wanted it” comes from this period of the mammy archetype as it was expected that these “free” black housekeepers were to serve every sexual desire of not only the master of the household but his sons as well.
So ya, fuck aunt Jemima.
Its obvious, I'm just lulzing because the brand should have vanished with Darkie Toothpaste and Niggerhair Tobacco. Aunt Jemima is even the name of her own stereotype.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Asante] 2
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Its obvious, I'm just lulzing because the brand should have vanished with Darkie Toothpaste
Look racist connotations aside Darkie Toothpaste totally had the best tarter control
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What about black women who take passion in making food for everyone and generally being a loving person, who also ENJOYS to bear the burden of maintaining a home. I live in an area that is 50% black. I've known black people who love the image of Aunt Jemima, as it reminds them of their own relatives.
They never read those racist books Saratonin broke down for us.
Seems like such intricate racism like this is only studied by extremely white people, and the blacks don't really care. At least the American blacks that I have known. They're more concerned about cops and kkk'ers.
I think that if they saw a white chick explaning such detail about racism beyond what they care to decipher, they're gonna be offended that a white chick thinks she knows better what offends them.
If white people continue down this path of identifying and demonizing all and any hint of racism, they're gonna wind up attacking all areas of black american culture. Because much of it came from blacks history in the US. So you'll eventually destroy their whole culture then, because every part of it can be connected to their history, which is all racist based.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: trees]
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“We recognize Aunt Jemima’s origins are based on a racial stereotype,” Kristin Kroepfl, vice president and chief marketing officer of Quaker Foods North America, said in a press release. “As we work to make progress toward racial equality through several initiatives, we also must take a hard look at our portfolio of brands and ensure they reflect our values and meet our consumers’ expectations.”
That says enough.
More windfall from the protests.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Niffla]
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Its obvious, I'm just lulzing because the brand should have vanished with Darkie Toothpaste
Look racist connotations aside Darkie Toothpaste totally had the best tarter control
It went on as Darlie toothpaste so you can still have it.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: trees]
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trees said: What about black women who take passion in making food for everyone and generally being a loving person, who also ENJOYS to bear the burden of maintaining a home. I live in an area that is 50% black. I've known black people who love the image of Aunt Jemima, as it reminds them of their own relatives.
Just because some woman enjoy keeping the house doesn’t mean the housewife stereotype of the 1940s is a healthy one. It’s basically universally accepted anymore that the 1940’s view of domestic partnership was very unhealthy. The same thinking applies here.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: trees]
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trees said: What about black women who take passion in making food for everyone and generally being a loving person, who also ENJOYS to bear the burden of maintaining a home. I live in an area that is 50% black. I've known black people who love the image of Aunt Jemima, as it reminds them of their own relatives.
They never read those racist books Saratonin broke down for us.
Seems like such intricate racism like this is only studied by extremely white people, and the blacks don't really care. At least the American blacks that I have known. They're more concerned about cops and kkk'ers.
I think that if they saw a white chick explaning such detail about racism beyond what they care to decipher, they're gonna be offended that a white chick thinks she knows better what offends them.

It is important and valuable for black women to have a sense of visibility, and do somewhat "agree" that this may be an elimination of one form of that with few others to turn to in place but it is also possible that they will revamp the brand to something that is still a loving black mother figure, just not in such a negatively stereotypical way
perhaps where the brand goes next will be something that does not perpetuate the attitudes of exploitation while still providing a sense of visibility
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: SARAtonin]
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We should wait for that generation to die off then? We could be offending the housewives who have enjoyed and are still enjoying their life of nurturing their kids and grand kids.
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If people continue down this path of identifying and demonizing all and any hint of racism, they're gonna wind up attacking all areas of black american culture. Because much of it came from blacks history in the US. So you'll eventually destroy their whole culture then, because every part of it can be connected to their history, which is all racist based.

You'll eventually have to face the blacks themselves in order to wipe out the racism that you see.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: trees]
#26751219 - 06/17/20 09:55 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think there's something to this. I see a lot of people playing the shit out of some kind of 'white guilt' card these days. I think it's pretty sad, and pretty dumb, and I have several friends of darker skin tone that think this too.
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#26751248 - 06/17/20 10:03 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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SARAtonin said: Some of you people questioning this seriously need to pick up a book. Not only is it inarguably racist but it is sexist as well.
Let me explain why.
As previously touched upon its one of the biggest examples of the mammy archetype of a matronly black housekeeper widely popularized by the character Aunt Chloe in Harriet Beecher Stowe’s widely successful “Uncle Tom’s Cabin.” While it can not be disputed the attention to the abolitionist movement the book provided and fire to the movement it cultivated the book and Stowe herself were far from flawless, not only did the book promote samboism, but it refined the mammy archetype in the cultural mind if a rapidly industrializing America. It brought forth and normalized the thinking that the role of the black woman was household servitude. This saw its roots during slavery where black woman were not only subjected to the same harsh punishment as their male counterparts but with the addition of rape and other forms of sexual humiliation, but they were also expected to keep up with the men in the fields and tend to house and home during any free time they had at the end of the day, many women where forced to take their children into the fields with them. This stereotype was brought to a head after emancipation during the reconstructionist era when the throngs of free slaves were given little other economic options outside of sharecropping and domestic servitude. It’s here the mammy stereotype thrived as practically every house across the country, north and south, relied upon the long painstaking hours of black woman house keeper, a slave in all but name. The stereotype of the promiscuous black woman who “wanted it” comes from this period of the mammy archetype as it was expected that these “free” black housekeepers were to serve every sexual desire of not only the master of the household but his sons as well.
So ya, fuck aunt Jemima.
I understand, but it's not like there's anything to indicate anything. It's just a picture of a black lady. If I take a picture of a black man today and put it on a syrup bottle, I'd think it was pretty silly if someone 80 years from now was like, "This is a symbol of black oppression because blacks were being oppressed." It's not like Jemima is picking cotton or being chased by an angry mob. You really have to be trying to look for this shit to find it, it's like pareidolia for virtue signalling.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 2
#26751250 - 06/17/20 10:04 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Where I live, it's super black. I lived in black neighborhoods. Real black people from generations of suppression DO NOT want white people acting like they can come in and help or lead their fights.
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#26751269 - 06/17/20 10:14 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think there's something to this. I see a lot of people playing the shit out of some kind of 'white guilt' card these days. I think it's pretty sad, and pretty dumb, and I have several friends of darker skin tone that think this too.
One of my favorite people to talk to everyday when I come into work is this security guard. His name is Jack. Black dude. In his early 60's (but could pass for 40's). I haven't hung out with the guy yet but we plan on going to the horse races and/or the casinos once things get back on track (if they ever do...sigh). Anyway I consider the guy a friend, and every day he stops by for 30 to 45 minutes to talk.
We talk about everything from sports to entertainment to politics. He's one of those types of people who you can talk about anything with -- even if y'all disagree. Reallly, really awesome guy.
Anyway (sorry for the long winded setup btw), he has made crystal clear that he finds it laughable that the white social justice warrior type feels like they need to swoop in and be saviors for the black race. He personally thinks it's insulting. He tells me stories about random white employees who approach him here at the office building and tell him how they hate Donald Trump too, and do it with this look of empathy in their eyes for him. Reminded me of that white family in the movie Get Out. Again, and this is just one guy, but he told me he also finds that insulting coming from white people. Basically he doesn't need anybody to save him or anyone's sorrow. Especially from someone who's white 
Gonna be interesting to see what his opinion is on this Aunt Jemima thing (he stops by faithfully everyday at around 2).
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Niffla] 2
#26751278 - 06/17/20 10:18 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Pretty much the exact sentiment I hear from my friends that are black.
But hey, it's fucking fashionable these days for young people to cry about anything and everything.
F.A.S.H.I.O.N man. That shit sells.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Niffla]
#26751280 - 06/17/20 10:18 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Here's a thought.
Let's delete the entire black history of America and start fresh as of.... now!
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#26751293 - 06/17/20 10:24 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think there's something to this. I see a lot of people playing the shit out of some kind of 'white guilt' card these days. I think it's pretty sad, and pretty dumb, and I have several friends of darker skin tone that think this too.
I like the part that Sara, as a woman, also touched upon the sexist stereotyping involved but the response is a bunch of guys pointing out the white girl talking about black issues as if they weren't in the midst of doing essentially the same sort of thing
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: trees]
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I mean this shit goes way back down south. People don't get that they were meant to be caricatures and the same people that are outraged are the same ppl that were laughing at Dave Chappell and other rasict shit years ago. Some them were just meant to be the nice old black lady not even funny. I get why but its like why wasn't this a problem until now if it was really a problem? Can we not have images of black women on products aunt Jemima is borderline questionable but flew for this long so wtf.




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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Tantrika] 1
#26751307 - 06/17/20 10:30 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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The Aunt Jemima isnt stamping out racism. Since the white quaker oats guy is a racist logo by the same logic as Jemimas.
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I think there's something to this. I see a lot of people playing the shit out of some kind of 'white guilt' card these days. I think it's pretty sad, and pretty dumb, and I have several friends of darker skin tone that think this too.
I like the part that Sara, as a woman, also touched upon the sexist stereotyping involved but the response is a bunch of guys pointing out the white girl talking about black issues as if they weren't in the midst of doing essentially the same sort of thing
Sexist? So all the TV commercials with women doing the laundry or dishwashing need to be extinguished to. Its all gotta go!
And men in the car or tool commercials, same thing, its gotta go!
From now on, only unisex animal characters will be used in laundry or dish soap commercials, because it's unhealthy to imagine even an effigy of a woman doing those tasks.
To think of it, humans need to stay off TV all together. Unisex animal characters only, from now on. That'll do the trick to stamp out sexism and racism and any other 'ism' that may be looming beyond our current sights.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Tantrika]
#26751308 - 06/17/20 10:31 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I like the part that Sara, as a woman, also touched upon the sexist stereotyping involved but the response is a bunch of guys pointing out the white girl talking about black issues as if they weren't in the midst of doing essentially the same sort of thing
I don't even know how it's sexist though, Tantrika. Because it's an aunt who cooks? Virtually every aunt I have loves to cook. And they don't do it for a man, they do it because they enjoy it.
Whatever though, I really don't care. It's a logo of a syrup for fuck's sake 
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Niffla] 3
#26751312 - 06/17/20 10:33 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's not even real maple syrup either
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#26751313 - 06/17/20 10:34 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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By this new logic, I'll have to go tell all my aunts and grand mothers that they will no longer be using the kitchen or any ammentities in the house because it's from a dark history of sexism and racism
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#26751317 - 06/17/20 10:35 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sexist? So all the TV commercials with women doing the laundry or dishwashing need to be extinguished to. Its all gotta go!
And men in the car or tool commercials, same thing, its gotta go!
From now on, only unisex animal characters will be used in laundry or dish soap commercials, because it's unhealthy to imagine even an effigy of a woman doing those tasks.
To think of it, humans need to stay off TV all together. Unisex animal characters only, from now on. That'll do the trick to stamp out sexism and racism and any other 'ism' that may be looming beyond our current sights.
Like I said they better get on them Hungry Man TV dinners asap. That shit just reeks of toxic masculinity.
If they don't change that shit to Hungry Human I will take this shit straight to their CEO's front doorstep

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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Niffla] 4
#26751327 - 06/17/20 10:39 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's more like...as a woman...you pretty much kind of disappear after a certain age. That's the pervasive feeling. Like when you're not sexy anymore all you can do is just go be old and take care of other people.
Really kind of sucks. And you are aware of it and feel it from a very young age, so it can make the whole process of adulthood after 25 particularly depressing.
Anyway, I know black people too And they think all kinds of different things about a very large issue, because they're people and that's what people do 
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#26751332 - 06/17/20 10:41 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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psi said: Yeah I shuddered when pb described it as maple syrup.
I am sorry. My simple American brain uses 'maple syrup' 'sugar' and 'high fructose corn syrup' interchangeably at this point. I've had the real deal though and it really is a different animal.
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#26751335 - 06/17/20 10:42 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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pirate-blues said: It's more like...as a woman...you pretty much kind of disappear after a certain age. That's the pervasive feeling. Like when you're not sexy anymore all you can do is just go be old and take care of other people.
Really kind of sucks. And you are aware of it and feel it from a very young age, so it can make the whole process of adulthood after 25 particularly depressing.
Anyway, I know black people too And they think all kinds of different things about a very large issue, because they're people and that's what people do  
That's such bullshit though, not to say that in an offensive way PB. I'm 30 yo man, and no woman of any old age is invisible to me, i will still greet and smile to them with respect as i would for anyone. Actually if a sexy 25 year old chick has a piece of shit rotten personality, she is invisible to me.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: trees]
#26751340 - 06/17/20 10:44 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think there's something to this. I see a lot of people playing the shit out of some kind of 'white guilt' card these days. I think it's pretty sad, and pretty dumb, and I have several friends of darker skin tone that think this too.
I like the part that Sara, as a woman, also touched upon the sexist stereotyping involved but the response is a bunch of guys pointing out the white girl talking about black issues as if they weren't in the midst of doing essentially the same sort of thing
Sexist? So all the TV commercials with women doing the laundry or dishwashing need to be extinguished to. Its all gotta go!
well you've talked to all the black women in your life about how much they love housework, so maybe they love the commercials but, yes, the idea that women should be relegated to housework is harmful if you do not comprehend how then maybe you just do not want to
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If you are a man and that is how you feel, will trust your judgement
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I love how you went so quickly to the most absurd and sensationalist idea you could think of
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To reaffirm my statement was expressing finding comedy in a bunch of guys talking about the icongraphy of women and how women love it so much while also complaining that white people talk too much on black issues and black people don't appreciate that
but bringing up sexism at all has resulted in directing the conversation into absurdism this implying that discussion of issues of sexism is in turn totally absurd
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Niffla]
#26751343 - 06/17/20 10:46 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I like the part that Sara, as a woman, also touched upon the sexist stereotyping involved but the response is a bunch of guys pointing out the white girl talking about black issues as if they weren't in the midst of doing essentially the same sort of thing
I don't even know how it's sexist though, Tantrika. Because it's an aunt who cooks? Virtually every aunt I have loves to cook. And they don't do it for a man, they do it because they enjoy it.
Whatever though, I really don't care. It's a logo of a syrup for fuck's sake 

Sara provided a pretty good account but surely your friend Jack will be more comedic and not have the women's issues mixed in when you chuckle together about it
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: pirate-blues]
#26751344 - 06/17/20 10:46 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Anyway, I know black people too And they think all kinds of different things about a very large issue, because they're people and that's what people do  
Yeah I didn't mean for that up above to come off like that one guy was speaking for the entire race. Just offering one guy's perspective for whatever it's worth.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: trees] 2
#26751345 - 06/17/20 10:48 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Really kind of sucks. And you are aware of it and feel it from a very young age, so it can make the whole process of adulthood after 25 particularly depressing.
Anyway, I know black people too And they think all kinds of different things about a very large issue, because they're people and that's what people do  
That's such bullshit though, not to say that in an offensive way PB. I'm 30 yo man...
Please note that a woman spoke about what she feels like her experiences are as a woman and your immediate response was to tell her that was bullshit, then explain your opinion on how women should feel from your perspective as a man
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#26751346 - 06/17/20 10:48 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm difficult to offend, no worries. That's nice and all, but realistically that's an issue I think pretty much every woman feels at one point or another, so... Guess we're all wrong.
And I know it's not like your fault or anything, I think a lot of this mentality is sort of self imposed, but the whole idea of feminism is to break out of the self defeating kind of attitude.
@Niffla, sorry I wasn't singling you out. I started to detail a professional mentor from a couple years a bit because she is an older black lady that has had a huge influence in my life, and then just kind of realized I was doing the same thing and just decided to type that instead . I do have to get back in touch with her and pick her brain a little about the Aunt Jemima thing.
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Tantrika said: well you've talked to all the black women in your life about how much they love housework, so maybe they love the commercials but, yes, the idea that women should be relegated to housework is harmful if you do not comprehend how then maybe you just do not want to
Then you have Mr. Clean who bears an unfortunate resemblance to a racist skinhead.
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I like the part that Sara, as a woman, also touched upon the sexist stereotyping involved but the response is a bunch of guys pointing out the white girl talking about black issues as if they weren't in the midst of doing essentially the same sort of thing
I don't even know how it's sexist though, Tantrika. Because it's an aunt who cooks? Virtually every aunt I have loves to cook. And they don't do it for a man, they do it because they enjoy it.
Whatever though, I really don't care. It's a logo of a syrup for fuck's sake 

Sara provided a pretty good account but surely your friend Jack will be more comedic and not have the women's issues mixed in when you chuckle together about it
A lot of times I don't know when to be serious and I joke too much about stuff. I know it's a very sensitive topic and I shouldn't make light of it. Especially not being in the position to see it from a woman's perspective.
I promise if we do end up discussing it today I won't mock it and chuckle about it okay
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Then you have Mr. Clean who bears an unfortunate resemblance to a racist skinhead.

Mr. Clean did time in San Quentin tho...he put his Aryan Nation days behind him when he got out
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Then you have Mr. Clean who bears an unfortunate resemblance to a racist skinhead.

yeah, and let us be fair and recognize that most professional business serving janitors are prolly male as it is sort of an industrial-adjacent job
but the more tangible part of the issue which is thankfully being mitigated as time goes on is the imagery that housekeeping is the primary or only outlet for a woman with things like engineer or scientist being things that seem shrouded away and for exceptional women, rather than a commonplace and attainable livelihood if that makes snes?
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Tantrika]
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Really kind of sucks. And you are aware of it and feel it from a very young age, so it can make the whole process of adulthood after 25 particularly depressing.
Anyway, I know black people too And they think all kinds of different things about a very large issue, because they're people and that's what people do  
That's such bullshit though, not to say that in an offensive way PB. I'm 30 yo man...
Please note that a woman spoke about what she feels like her experiences are as a woman and your immediate response was to tell her that was bullshit, then explain your opinion on how women should feel from your perspective as a man
You're well aware that her feelings are directly related to her perception of other's feelings, an appropriate response is elucidation and that's what he provided. One should not have to share genders to share thoughts and opinions.
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Let's delete the entire black history of America and start fresh as of.... now!
Let's no longer acknowlage Cnada's separateness from the USA as of.. NOW!
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I like the part that Sara, as a woman, also touched upon the sexist stereotyping involved but the response is a bunch of guys pointing out the white girl talking about black issues as if they weren't in the midst of doing essentially the same sort of thing
I don't even know how it's sexist though, Tantrika. Because it's an aunt who cooks? Virtually every aunt I have loves to cook. And they don't do it for a man, they do it because they enjoy it.
Whatever though, I really don't care. It's a logo of a syrup for fuck's sake 

Sara provided a pretty good account but surely your friend Jack will be more comedic and not have the women's issues mixed in when you chuckle together about it
A lot of times I don't know when to be serious and I joke too much about stuff. I know it's a very sensitive topic and I shouldn't make light of it. Especially not being in the position to see it from a woman's perspective.
I promise if we do end up discussing it today I won't mock it and chuckle about it okay 
cannot give you a good answer on that sadly my own perspective(s) are a mess of everything shunning "women's work" and practicing a "get in the kitchen" attitude when studying pickup artistry and pretending to be a man
then sort of a whiplash effect as a trans woman which has included my mother telling me that tolerating cleaning up after other people and doing more than your own share in that regard is a defining part of being a woman and to do it with a smile and reassure everyone you don't mind when you have guests and have to do even more
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Tantrika]
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I did not think of the janitor angle, guess I never put much thought into who his character was supposed to be other than a strong dude who cares a lot about things being clean. I will say it definitely seems to be marketed towards home use.
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Let's delete the entire black history of America and start fresh as of.... now!
Let's no longer acknowlage Cnada's separateness from the USA as of.. NOW!
Hey Pat, the Netherlands are officially part of Germany what did you do bruh?
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women do they inside chores and men do the outside chores, I will do the dishes though if I can waste water and leave it running the whole time, I find the running water to be soothing, almost like a meditation
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: psi]
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he is the big strong janitor come to help make cleaning your home easier for the wife
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damn Mr. Clean got an earring?
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A janitor doesn't come to your house to clean it though.
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I just seems like there's always a way to identify sexism in absolutley everything in existence, and there's some motivation to do so among some people.
I bet I could find sexism in nature among insects and even plants.
Cant your signature gif be sexist too then? Does that gif imply that a woman's ass the only thing that matters about her existence? Who is that woman in your gif? Has she been relegated to only doing sexual stuff?
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#26751401 - 06/17/20 11:10 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's not really so much inside outside it's that people need time apart and everyone hates doing certain things.
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Male ants and bees really have it hard. Praying Mantises. You know sometimes male octopi have their dicks ripped right the fuck off by that pussy? True story. It's like the movie, Teeth, but real life
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well yeah, because just about everything in existence up to about the past 100 years has been designed for men that whole patriarchy word that scares folks so much and there is some motivation among some people to try and immediately discredit discussion on the matters
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Sure, it has been accused of such plenty
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Almost, it is my ideal ass for me as a woman, that turns it into "internalized sexism" where mens standards are considered to define my standards for my own self
conversely, there are other branches of feminism that disagree with that and emphasis that sex positivity is important to women because women have only recently been afforded sexual agency, and need to keep it from being taken away again
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Manuela Arcuri, Italian actress that is a single scene in a non-pornographic film from Italian cinema
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pirate-blues said: It's more like...as a woman...you pretty much kind of disappear after a certain age. That's the pervasive feeling. Like when you're not sexy anymore all you can do is just go be old and take care of other people.
Really kind of sucks. And you are aware of it and feel it from a very young age, so it can make the whole process of adulthood after 25 particularly depressing.
Anyway, I know black people too And they think all kinds of different things about a very large issue, because they're people and that's what people do  
That's such bullshit though, not to say that in an offensive way PB. I'm 30 yo man...
Please note that a woman spoke about what she feels like her experiences are as a woman and your immediate response was to tell her that was bullshit, then explain your opinion on how women should feel from your perspective as a man
You're well aware that her feelings are directly related to her perception of other's feelings, an appropriate response is elucidation and that's what he provided. One should not have to share genders to share thoughts and opinions.
When your gender has directly shaped your experience on this world then maybe it actually does have some relevance to the conversation at hand - particularly if it's related to gender related issues. Perhaps there are certain things that are self imposed, but others definitely are not. We live in a very similar world because we're both lucky to live in western countries, but it's not the same at all. There are certain things I've definitely gotten away with where a dude would not have, for sure. I can safely say that there are advantages, sure. Have you and a disturbingly high amount of your friend group been raped and/or sexually assaulted? probably not. So no, I don't think we're really living in the same world here. Even if we have made some progress and we're super lucky to live where we do in our respective nations.
Anyway my intention is not to co-opt this thread with my own shit.
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“We recognize Aunt Jemima’s origins are based on a racial stereotype,” Kristin Kroepfl, vice president and chief marketing officer of Quaker Foods North America, said in a press release.
I'll translate from Corporate to English "we did research in our target market and found popularity and reputation of our product suffered from the racist and sexist connotations of the branding so we'll change the name and logo to sell more."
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Uncle Ben, they’re coming for you!! Run!!!!!
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I got a maple syrup for $3.95, thats such a good price I grabed it even though we did syrup this year and already have like 10 bottles
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Atreyu]
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This aunt jemima thread is on fire

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They should get rid of the abomination that’s inside the jug labeled Aunt Jemima. The shit is gross and the world deserves better.
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I'm not really sure what you're getting at. All I was saying is his opinion isn't invalid, he was providing perspective even if him using "bullshit" was disliked I guess? It just seems like you're making assumptions and trying to imply my mild opinion of him having something relevant to say is in itself invalid because I'm a man and I live in Canada. I mean really he was trying to make you feel better and Tantrika was just telling him to watch his language and check his privilege. Then your response is yes, pls check privilege flippity head Canada man. I understand you may be trying to show me how you might start forming such opinions, and I will admit I've had a drink or two, but trying to communicate that you may be slightly more right than me doesn't exactly inform one that that they're wrong, it just seems more like arguing for the sake of arguing.
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it just seems more like arguing for the sake of arguing.
lol we can call it this.
But really it was the 'you shouldn't need to identify your gender to voice your opinion' and I mean, theoretically I guess I agree with that. In reality I was just saying that we probably have some very very different experiences based solely on our genders, and different perspectives that are not only worth bringing up but probably something that more people should talk about in general.
I don't want to argue though, I'm not trying to, I'm super tired it - I think we probably agree on more things than we disagree on, that paragraph just got away from me a bit.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Niffla]
#26751482 - 06/17/20 11:53 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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he has had one since 1957.
Yep, he got it pierced the day he came out. Risky move in ‘57, but it’s paid off.
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larry.fisherman said: ...and Tantrika was just telling him to watch his language and check his privilege...
Sara came in to thread, talked about racism and sexism issues bunch of guys made fun of her for talking about racism issues, and a number of times by association sexism issues because she is white
woman in this thread talks about her experiences as a woman man tries to tell her his opinion and how he thinks she should feel, rather than acknowledge the reality of what she feels from what she has experienced Tantrika chimes in noting that it is, again, just like the the case of a white person telling black people what to feel
it was not about him needing to watch his language or check his privilege it was about how his not doing so to begin with had made him guilty of the same sort of behaviour everyone made fun of Sara for earlier but everyone will rush to the defense of such behaviour
pirate did not seem to be telling you to check your privilege either just simply trying to reinforce that as much as trees sentiment is nice the actual lived experience and common social messaging are not
but do not wish to attempt to speak for her, just recognize she was not being confrontational in all this
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: pirate-blues]
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pirate-blues said: In reality I was just saying that we probably have some very very different experiences based solely on our genders, and different perspectives that are not only worth bringing up but probably something that more people should talk about in general.
I have this theory, because I've met some really tough women, who seemingly have no problem correcting the behavior of dumbasses. And I've also seen some tough women effortlessley stomp on dudes heads when they tried some non consensual sexual shit.
Women have so frequently been led down a path to vulnerability since childhood. In the form of pollypocket, barbie and flowery fluffy pinkness and "everything is just a fluffy pretty reality"
In adulthood, they take for granted all the work they do in the form of makeup and hair appointments and all this beauty based shit to "look good" translates directly to "fuck me" to the male monkey brain.
So that in combination with never being taught self defence, results in lots of rape and sexual assult that could be been avoided, had the woman been more adapted to survival.
If I have a daughter, I'll give her tools and equipment and motorbikes to play with, and I'd teach her all the tricks on how to deter and destroy a sexual predator.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: christopera]
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he has had one since 1957.
Yep, he got it pierced the day he came out. Risky move in ‘57, but it’s paid off.

I had no idea Mr. Clean was such a rebel.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Niffla]
#26751541 - 06/17/20 12:23 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Praise the Lord that aunt Jemima brand was closed. The imposition of corporate "gain" on Black folk was starting to get to me. Lol.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: psi]
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psi said: Yeah I shuddered when pb described it as maple syrup.
That's an insult to everything we pride ourselves in as Canadians. The best maple syrup comes in a can or jug that looks kinda sketchy but you know it's good.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: SonicTitan]
#26751565 - 06/17/20 12:36 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Aunt jemima always hurt my teeth....good riddance
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#26751570 - 06/17/20 12:39 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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That's an insult to everything we pride ourselves in as Canadians. The best maple syrup comes in a can or jug that looks kinda sketchy but you know it's good.
I took it back!!
And I have had the good shit, I just..it's just..we don't exactly baptize our children in maple syrup down here like the Canadians, you can't blame us for maybe not being as discerning
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: spirit_shadow]
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Niffla]
#26751577 - 06/17/20 12:42 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's TRUE
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: spirit_shadow]
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Oh
Okay cool whatev
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: spirit_shadow]
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spirit_shadow said: Aunt jemima always hurt my teeth....good riddance 
They're firing Aunt Jemima, the syrup remains being sold under another name.
If they have a sense of humor the new brand will be an astonished Uncle Ben with the caption "I Can't Believe It Ain't Aunt Jemima's"
They'll probably get nuked from orbit
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That's an insult to everything we pride ourselves in as Canadians. The best maple syrup comes in a can or jug that looks kinda sketchy but you know it's good.
I took it back!!
And I have had the good shit, I just..it's just..we don't exactly baptize our children in maple syrup down here like the Canadians, you can't blame us for maybe not being as discerning 
That's blasphemy! Us canadians as a rite of passage have to sacrifice a maple tree and enrich the soil with its sap and drink the surgary blood of the forest to ensure the monreal canadians make it to the playoffs.
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Is it racist that I assumed Aunt Jemima and Uncle Ben were married when I was a kid?
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Wait. They weren't?
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That's an insult to everything we pride ourselves in as Canadians. The best maple syrup comes in a can or jug that looks kinda sketchy but you know it's good.
I took it back!!
And I have had the good shit, I just..it's just..we don't exactly baptize our children in maple syrup down here like the Canadians, you can't blame us for maybe not being as discerning 
That's blasphemy! Us canadians as a rite of passage have to sacrifice a maple tree and enrich the soil with its sap and drink the surgary blood of the forest to ensure the monreal canadians make it to the playoffs.
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when I was a kid I thought the burger king should marry the dairy queen
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Niffla]
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Notice "Aunt Jemima" making a cameo here.
Aunt Jemima was even considered racist in the 1960s.
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This is yet another silly measure that doesn't actually solve or even fight against any real racism at all whatsoever. It doesn't prevent police brutality, it doesn't lower racism, it doesn't prevent or lower discrimination of any kind, it doesn't fight white supremacy or white supremacist ideology, it accomplishes absolutely nothing and doesn't affect racism at all.
I'm annoyed at measures like these that do nothing because people take these measures and then feel like racism has now been solved when it hasn't even been affected at all in the slightest. These type of things function as a straw man for racism. You can't or don't want to fight real racism, so instead you set up this pointless "straw man" that's easy to defeat, you defeat it, and then you claim victory over real racism when you haven't affected real racism at all.
Aunt jemima is crap anyway and should be discontinued. Uncle ben is shaking in his boots right now.
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I was just informed that major software companies are going to stop using the words slave/master and blacklist/whitelist in code.
Where does the madness end???
Are hydraulic systems no longer to have slave and master cylinders?
When we read something will it no longer be in black and white?
Fuck this is getting beyond moronic.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: nooneman]
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Uncle Ben MIA last I heard
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Where does the madness end???
Are hydraulic systems no longer to have slave and master cylinders?
When we read something will it no longer be in black and white?
Fuck this is getting beyond moronic.
And what will I say when I ask my wife for another?
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SJW have been trying to push this for a while, a year or two ago there was a post on github for some project and they were trying to get rid of blacklis/whitelist, my name on github is like codeingducks or something so I chimed in change it to quacklist/honklist and I got a couple upvotes
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SARAtonin said: Some of you people questioning this seriously need to pick up a book. Not only is it inarguably racist but it is sexist as well.
Let me explain why.
As previously touched upon its one of the biggest examples of the mammy archetype of a matronly black housekeeper widely popularized by the character Aunt Chloe in Harriet Beecher Stowe’s widely successful “Uncle Tom’s Cabin.” While it can not be disputed the attention to the abolitionist movement the book provided and fire to the movement it cultivated the book and Stowe herself were far from flawless, not only did the book promote samboism, but it refined the mammy archetype in the cultural mind if a rapidly industrializing America. It brought forth and normalized the thinking that the role of the black woman was household servitude. This saw its roots during slavery where black woman were not only subjected to the same harsh punishment as their male counterparts but with the addition of rape and other forms of sexual humiliation, but they were also expected to keep up with the men in the fields and tend to house and home during any free time they had at the end of the day, many women where forced to take their children into the fields with them. This stereotype was brought to a head after emancipation during the reconstructionist era when the throngs of free slaves were given little other economic options outside of sharecropping and domestic servitude. It’s here the mammy stereotype thrived as practically every house across the country, north and south, relied upon the long painstaking hours of black woman house keeper, a slave in all but name. The stereotype of the promiscuous black woman who “wanted it” comes from this period of the mammy archetype as it was expected that these “free” black housekeepers were to serve every sexual desire of not only the master of the household but his sons as well.
So ya, fuck aunt Jemima.
I understand, but it's not like there's anything to indicate anything. It's just a picture of a black lady. If I take a picture of a black man today and put it on a syrup bottle, I'd think it was pretty silly if someone 80 years from now was like, "This is a symbol of black oppression because blacks were being oppressed." It's not like Jemima is picking cotton or being chased by an angry mob. You really have to be trying to look for this shit to find it, it's like pareidolia for virtue signalling.
They changed it a few years ago, she used to have a red bandana on and looked more "mammyish". They made it "more appealing and less racist". The name says it all really. Also uncle bens? The redskins? and on and on...
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Sexist? So all the TV commercials with women doing the laundry or dishwashing need to be extinguished to. Its all gotta go!
And men in the car or tool commercials, same thing, its gotta go!
From now on, only unisex animal characters will be used in laundry or dish soap commercials, because it's unhealthy to imagine even an effigy of a woman doing those tasks.
To think of it, humans need to stay off TV all together. Unisex animal characters only, from now on. That'll do the trick to stamp out sexism and racism and any other 'ism' that may be looming beyond our current sights.
Like I said they better get on them Hungry Man TV dinners asap. That shit just reeks of toxic masculinity.
If they don't change that shit to Hungry Human I will take this shit straight to their CEO's front doorstep


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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: tyrannicalrex] 2
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Are they gonna replace Aunt Jemima with a white woman???
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Really kind of sucks. And you are aware of it and feel it from a very young age, so it can make the whole process of adulthood after 25 particularly depressing.
Anyway, I know black people too And they think all kinds of different things about a very large issue, because they're people and that's what people do  
Umm, there's chubby older woman porn, so I've heard. They are very useful for many things, and that's "taking care of people". (I hope this isn't too much, but I though it was funny)
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Asante]
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I listened to that whole soundtrack on 8 track as a kid. There was also the brazillian nut issue in the south. I think you know what it was so I won't print it. It was common for everyone in Texas (most). My mom finally stopped saying ti when we were little, I remember her telling us not to say it anymore.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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They will also get rid of this too I'm sure.
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No because that would be white washing I think. So you're racist there too. And it's still a woman. So still sexist. Truth is unless you make the logo an alien or a fuck'n animal or some shit someone out there somewhere is going to be offended somehow someway.
Like someone said earlier it's almost to the point where you just may as well just put the name of the actual product in generic font, like where it just simply says "SYRUP" and nothing else.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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Yeah okay this I agree definitely has to go 
And she's got blue eyes too?
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: tyrannicalrex] 1
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Does anybody know what color Mrs Butterworths is?? Is she safe??
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looks like caramel coloured
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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that's almost exactly like the Duff beer Homer Simpson drinks, where it just says "BEER" on it
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: gopher]
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the verdict is in

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Is even the Jolly Green Giant safe? Maybe there is some beleaguered demographic he lampoons.
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I can't think of any but better safe than sorry

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Inb4 they remove all people of colour from all labels then someone complains that people of colour are under represented on labels.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Niffla]
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I saw a navajo truck today and it was gone. I took that pic a few years ago actually because I found it pretty bad, plus the blue eyes clinched it, lol!
Mrs buttersworth is a "mammy" but it's just the silhouette/shape, so.....
That "beer" was beer from the 80's and was sold everywhere. A company started it to try and get some of the beer market as opposed to bud, miller etc...
https://www.beeradvocate.com/articles/5508/the-return-of-generic-beer-sort-of/ Anyone remember those 12-ounce white cans with black lettering that just said “Beer” on them? You might if you were around in the ’70 or ’80s, or maybe your dad does. Generic pale lager that went for mere pennies per can, literally. Tasted no different than the big labels of the time, because it wasn’t. You simply weren’t paying for all of the branding/marketing.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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Probably not because he is offensive to midgets
They prefer the term "little people", which sounds kind of condescending in a pat them on the head type of way, but that's what they want. My facebook friend has a midget kid and I signed their petition to get rename the junior league hockey we call "midget hockey" in Canada. Peter Dinklage mentioned their struggle on Twitter. I'm sure they care more about the fight to have everything in the world reachable to them than what people call a hockey league, but every little bit helps, baby steps. Its kind of weird how people cling to this shit as "tradition". For instance you wouldn't call a guy in a wheelchair a cripple, even though 50 years ago that was the normal term. Shit changes its time to move on.
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Probably not because he is offensive to midgets
They prefer the term "little people", which sounds kind of condescending in a pat them on the head type of way...
Way back when like 15 and dumb kids was talking to my then girlfriend about my lack of artistic skill and said "I am drawing a pony for my friend, but I can't draw, so I am just drawing a little horse" and, a skilled artist who could draw such distinctions spat back at me "What!?!? a pony isn't a horse! that's like saying a midget is a person!" then went beet red as soon as she realized how it had came out
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Tantrika]
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Yeah unlike the billions of other mascots and media based on stereotyping...
I mean fuck media lives on stereotypes. Well they call them tropes now.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#26752783 - 06/17/20 08:48 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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And some people are still stunned when the inevitable PC backlash occurs.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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Its probably because she represents an old stereotype of older Black Women and how they look. Kinda like how Speedy Gonzalas is a stereotype of Mexican people. Similar sorta thing.
Farewell Aunt Jemima. Your fake maple syrup has done its job slathering our pancakes with sweet, gooey liquid 
She's 50s house wife trope only black.
Which in appearance is not dissimilar to country grandma stereotype. Only difference is skin color.
So I wonder if thinking country 50s black housewife is offensive but country 50s white housewife is not is itself racist or sexiest... Or some shit.
Idk I don't really like any of it and never have.
Just like grandma used to make is salt in my wounds of being raised under an alcoholic grandma that couldn't cook. Or drive a car. Or hold a job. Ya know living up to all the shitty parts of gender roles and none of the good ones.
My grandma didn't cook shit dude. Not even meth.
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Really kind of sucks. And you are aware of it and feel it from a very young age, so it can make the whole process of adulthood after 25 particularly depressing.
Anyway, I know black people too And they think all kinds of different things about a very large issue, because they're people and that's what people do  
That's such bullshit though, not to say that in an offensive way PB. I'm 30 yo man, and no woman of any old age is invisible to me, i will still greet and smile to them with respect as i would for anyone. Actually if a sexy 25 year old chick has a piece of shit rotten personality, she is invisible to me.
It's a media issue more than a real life social circle issue.
Media including news, tv, movies, ect, all the way down to coloring book and poems.
And the media issue is a habit from the remains of real life social issues. Gender roles.
It's only slowly growing out of that. More slowly than society has. Because lazy. Because safe investment.
I'd sooner see a wider interpretation of black women on tv than on fucking food labels.
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I have this theory, because I've met some really tough women, who seemingly have no problem correcting the behavior of dumbasses. And I've also seen some tough women effortlessley stomp on dudes heads when they tried some non consensual sexual shit.
Women have so frequently been led down a path to vulnerability since childhood. In the form of pollypocket, barbie and flowery fluffy pinkness and "everything is just a fluffy pretty reality"
In adulthood, they take for granted all the work they do in the form of makeup and hair appointments and all this beauty based shit to "look good" translates directly to "fuck me" to the male monkey brain.
So that in combination with never being taught self defence, results in lots of rape and sexual assult that could be been avoided, had the woman been more adapted to survival.
If I have a daughter, I'll give her tools and equipment and motorbikes to play with, and I'd teach her all the tricks on how to deter and destroy a sexual predator.
Being physically able to fend off your attacker doesn't do much for the increased chances of being drugged and raped by someone you know.
Not saying all that other stuff doesn't factor in. Totally does.
But there's also just inherent risks to being female. Just as there is to being male.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: CookieCrumbs]
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: budmanman]
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I really want pancakes now.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: CookieCrumbs]
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Wanting pancakes is racist
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: budmanman]
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I'll just be a racist then.
I'm getting pancakes tomorrow.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: CookieCrumbs]
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Mrs Butterworth is white -edited for flaming-
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Great you -edited for flaming- Uncle Ben now. Wtf was wrong with Uncle Ben -edited for more flaming-
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Who's going to start the movement to ban the garbage that comes inside the bottle? I'm serious, let's send a petition to Mr. DiGiorno and get this rolling.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: christopera]
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If you ban that there won't be any trees left an maple syrup will cost more then gold ubducking morons. Learn how the world and maple syrup industry works before you talk shit. You most of you idiots don't even have a brain and tastebuds in your head to tell the difference your fucking a bunch of animal savages its disgusting how just think things taste good cuz thats what people told you to think. Some of you people should be put in jail your just bad people.
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Good work, Cheif. I think we are on to something here.
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I just got a call back from Mrs. Bites, you know, the wife of Mr. Bagel Bites. She says they are willing to back us on a petition to end the hate, end the torture, and finally put an end to fake maple syrup. We couldn't have done it without Tom Green though, he really pushed us over the edge, even if he did recently become an American citizen (like the pansy he is).
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: christopera] 1
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Here in South Africa we have Ouma (Afrikaans for Grandma) Biscuits/Rusks.
I think everyone mature reaches a point where caring for others is basically your main preoccupation. Selflessness is the ultimate spiritual goal and all that.
Looks pretty similar in vibe, imo. This is a white lady however.
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Doesn't reek of the same vibe really IMHE. If you grew up here in the USA you would know/feel exactly what this is all about. I'm not saying you can't sympathize, but you really can't know the depth of it (maybe you can, you're a very wise fellow). This shit is so ingrained in american culture it's excepted by masses of people. Groups of people have been trying to get those labels changed for decades and finally this terrible incident has caused a domino effect in all things.
You guys did have that sun city thing though, and I could relate that to what's happening here.
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You guys did have that sun city thing though, and I could relate that to what's happening here.
Sometimes I try and wonder what I would do if I was the person in charge of making this change. It is an outdated stereotype, and I do think that it makes sense to look at it can say it's time to change it.
What would you do? You would want to be tasteful, but also clear and communicative so that customers who are looking for their usual bottle of garbage syrup will be able to find it.
I like the idea of featuring black women on the bottle, but I think we should see some actual women who have made meaningful impacts on the world. Harriet Tubman, Katherine Johnson, Mae Jemisom - those are women that have accomplished more than the average person could ever hope to and absolutely deserve to be regarded as role models by everyone, not just little black girls. Seems just a bit better to me than an old southern mammy. Plus it like, empowers your brand, or whatever.
Too bad the syrup is garbage and the corporation responsible for the brand is a piece of shit in general in other ways.
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Tapping trees doesn't harm the tree. It's just a little spigot hammered in to the tree with a bucket underneath. I'd say there's probably enough actual maple syrup around. It would likely get cheaper not more expensive.
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Its probably because she represents an old stereotype of older Black Women and how they look. Kinda like how Speedy Gonzalas is a stereotype of Mexican people. Similar sorta thing.
Farewell Aunt Jemima. Your fake maple syrup has done its job slathering our pancakes with sweet, gooey liquid 
She's 50s house wife trope only black.
Which in appearance is not dissimilar to country grandma stereotype. Only difference is skin color.
So I wonder if thinking country 50s black housewife is offensive but country 50s white housewife is not is itself racist or sexiest... Or some shit.
In the modern version she looks just like my actual grandmother did except black. Down to the hairstyle and pearl earrings.
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The name alone reeks, lol. They should just ditch the pic at least. Why does a label need a human face? Oh, that's right, to make it sell because it's inhuman garbage, I almost forgot!
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True, true. It does feel a little pandery to me, but I kinda like it.
The thing about marketing is that being subtle and tasteful is...in my limited knowledge, not really a popular play lol. They could've really quietly just removed the image like land o lakes, but I think honestly, with the amount of things that people bitch about, they're damned if they do damned it they don't. I will play them a sad song on the worlds tiniest violin, and continue to not buy aunt jemima lol.
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LOL, I rarely eat pancakes anyway. I might eat them once a year or so. Syrup soaked buttered bread, nahhhh. I love me some jellied toast though, lol.
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From what I know there's alot of racism in south africa and it turns deadly often.
It seems like the main difference is that there's just not a popular movement to deal with it and bring public awareness and all.
Basically I know how far I trust south african opinions on racism. Not that I have problems with white people in africa, yall didn't conquer it, but I'm just saying there's some problematic shit there.
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Pancakes and sausage are delicious you son of a bitch
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Pancakes and sausage are delicious you son of a bitch
And a lot better than wings
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It seems like the main difference is that there's just not a popular movement to deal with it and bring public awareness and all.
Basically I know how far I trust south african opinions on racism. Not that I have problems with white people in africa, yall didn't conquer it, but I'm just saying there's some problematic shit there.
Well there are many racists in South Africa. I don't think I'm one. I'm attracted to all colours of ladies and have all colours of friends.
South Africa remains however very divided. Not just among black/white. Here different cultural african tribes have beef with one another etc...
Too messy to get into, which is why I will remain silent on the matter. Don't like being judged myself. I feel I am an individual and my subjective motivations differ from my superficial appearance.
Just wanted to add some perspective, not necessarily preach something.
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Tapping trees doesn't harm the tree. It's just a little spigot hammered in to the tree with a bucket underneath. I'd say there's probably enough actual maple syrup around. It would likely get cheaper not more expensive.
Its stealing the sap tho. It takes like 10 gallons of sap to make one gallon of syrup. Do u know how much syrup we already go thru or how hard it is to actually get? Like I said go look into some the numbers and the syrup mafia all of it. Shit is liquid gold already ur just trying to be an asshole and have tubes running all over my forests after u burnt down my cities with ur racist horseshit.
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Idea: Naked crispy wing dipped in maple syrup instead of ranch, bleu cheese and/or wing sauce! No, wait, add the syrup to the ranch, bleu cheese, and wing sauce. Syrup and hot sauce, sauce!
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We already have that wtf kind of wing places do u guys eat? Seems like the whole country is just so far behind where we should be in every aspect. Sort your shit out dont pay a wing place that doesn't have 52 flavors of crispy wings. There's no reason for it whats the excuse? This is why where u live sucks cuz u let conmen and lazy assholes sell u garbage and rip you off. You people are the once that let these scumbags ruin my country cuz ur so dumb.
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Now I can read that quote. Please write like this in the future so everyone can understand your inane posts.
P.S. I live in Denver, and believe me it doesn't "suck". (unless you want it to)
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Tapping trees doesn't harm the tree. It's just a little spigot hammered in to the tree with a bucket underneath. I'd say there's probably enough actual maple syrup around. It would likely get cheaper not more expensive.
Its stealing the sap tho. It takes like 10 gallons of sap to make one gallon of syrup. Do u know how much syrup we already go thru or how hard it is to actually get? Like I said go look into some the numbers and the syrup mafia all of it. Shit is liquid gold already ur just trying to be an asshole and have tubes running all over my forests after u burnt down my cities with ur racist horseshit.
Plant some trees then you dirty hippy. Always sitting there judging, smelling of dogshit and patchouli..why don't you try some activism instead of bitchin huh? Try to take away mah sizzurp and you're getting the smackdown
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Ur the one trying to take away syrup brands and jobs from hard working folks. Idk ill likely make money on this shitshow playing the obvious winners and losers. Ur a joke. None of this follows any logical line of reason but ok do whatever u guys want. Butterworth was fucking white they just used a voluptuous black model cuz whats better to make a bottle but everyone know white women have the phat ass too.
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Do you realize how many trees there are? Do you think we've just enslaved their entire race? Simmer down. Think rationally. We're talking about trees and a fake product. Woe is me, what would the world do with an increased demand in real maple syrup? Truly a problem that needs solved with great passion and swift fury. How dare anyone suggest Aunt Jemima become a quality product. Lol.
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This just in, Martha Stewart has just signed an exclusive deal to represent every brand that used to have an "ethnic" mascot. Racism solved! At least on product packages.
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Okay what about the sexist part though
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Martha Stewart is a convicted felon!
Who would trust her to buy something she endorses?!?!!
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Not to mention having a white person now as the logo represents white supremacy
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psi I thought you were woke bro, wake up dude, we're trying to abolish white people not promote them
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Yeah, Martha Stewart reminds me too much of JEB Stuart and that's just hateful!
She should change her name!!!
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One thing at a time here, we can't solve all the world's problems in one go. But there are talks of Mr. Clean teaming up with her and contributing equally to all household tasks seen onscreen. But not in a way that makes it seem like he has any special skills unattainable by a woman by virtue of his being a strong male janitor type.
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Who would trust her to buy something she endorses?!?!! 
Unfortunately we don't have the luxury of being picky.
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If aunt Jemima became a quality product none thier idiots would buy it cuz it became "gentrified"
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One thing at a time here, we can't solve all the world's problems in one go. But there are talks of Mr. Clean teaming up with her and contributing equally to all household tasks seen onscreen. But not in a way that makes it seem like he has any special skills unattainable by a woman by virtue of his being a strong male janitor type.


You know wat this could work. Still way too white, though. We need to scale back the whiteness big time. Let's make it an interracial couple and then I think we'll be onto something.
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The next commercial will be Mr Clean making Martha Stewart sandwiches while she spanks his sparkly clean bottom.
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If aunt Jemima became a quality product none thier idiots would buy it cuz it became "gentrified"
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Clearly that crosses some kinda line. Was it the black part or the marginalizing wen part or the fact she was into it big time?
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Niffla said: You know wat this could work. Still way too white, though. We need to scale back the whiteness big time. Let's make it an interracial couple and then I think we'll be onto something.
Make them blue and hot pink or something. Mr. Clean can be pink to buck the pink/blue gender role thing.
Oh and the Jolly Green Giant will now be played by the Shroomery's own Malcolm Xstasy in greenface.
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oh thats right normal women won't talk to him cuz he has a shellac cue ball for a head im sorry
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I would buy green beans from Malcolm Xstasy!
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Jolly green giant? Not gonna fall for that one are u kidding?. Its called oppressive psychopath that will "grind your bones to make his bread"
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Umm sir are you making the claim that Mr. Clean took part in this reprehensible and sickening act? That's quite a powerful accusation there sir
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#26754398 - 06/18/20 01:53 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I bet Martha is a power bottom, and I also bet she hates fake maple syrup just as much as me. We are basically a match made in heaven.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: christopera]
#26754506 - 06/18/20 02:31 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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How do you know about a "power bottom"?
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#26754533 - 06/18/20 02:39 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I saw your pool table the other day and I learned everything I need to know.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: remake]
#26754544 - 06/18/20 02:42 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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CookieCrumbs said: From what I know there's alot of racism in south africa and it turns deadly often.
It seems like the main difference is that there's just not a popular movement to deal with it and bring public awareness and all.
Basically I know how far I trust south african opinions on racism. Not that I have problems with white people in africa, yall didn't conquer it, but I'm just saying there's some problematic shit there.
Well there are many racists in South Africa. I don't think I'm one. I'm attracted to all colours of ladies and have all colours of friends.
South Africa remains however very divided. Not just among black/white. Here different cultural african tribes have beef with one another etc...
Too messy to get into, which is why I will remain silent on the matter. Don't like being judged myself. I feel I am an individual and my subjective motivations differ from my superficial appearance.
Just wanted to add some perspective, not necessarily preach something.
I didn't choose to be born here. This is my home.
Yeah I fired that off a little bit too quickly this morning, sorry (actually probably all my posts, but whatever.)
I'm just saying that it's probably very different perspectives.
If you don't have people that are trying to deal with the problem, if those people aren't in the media, and kids aren't taught about diversity and civil rights and how that relates to the local people there, then it's going to be something people are much less exposed to.
And can falsely conclude that it's not a problem. So I imagine that alone is a major difference. This is why many countries that have as bad if not worse racism or classism issues as America but it's not drawn with a highlighter. Australia media often likes to think itself very progressive but textbooks up to the 1960s identified aboriginals as fauna. Animals. And were still inappropriately called negros by learned bodies up until a few decades ago. Even with PC culture very little of aboriginal life has improved... in part because it's been so fundamentally shattered and in part because it's not something the white people of Sydney like to think about too hard too often. We, for one, are encouraged to speak out about inequality. And often find support in doing so. Legal support if nothing else. Our ideals and our propaganda actually foster this attitude.
One nation under god... We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights...
I think it's our own hypocrisy that gives us that highlighter.
I'm of a people that is not native to my country as well. Which is why I say I don't blame you. I don't think you are guilty of the crimes of your ancestors.
I would actually appreciate hearing more of your perspective. Hung out with a guy from South Africa for years and he was very progressive and very cynical and it was always nice to chat with him. Miss him alot.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: CookieCrumbs] 5
#26754623 - 06/18/20 03:03 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Cool, no worries.
Well, we have a mostly black-run government since 1994. Racism is an issue frequently discussed among us as well.
We also have a thing called Black Economic Empowerment that has strict laws regarding the hiring of black people within the work-force.
White people here are the minority, however.
I'm pretty positive about my country, despite everything. But that's just me, and my personality I guess.
All I can hope for is that people realise their individuality and embrace differences. I'm not a famous influencer or anything, so all I can do really is be kind to people who really need it when I can.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: remake]
#26754665 - 06/18/20 03:12 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yep didn't know that. I know that alot of what I got from my former... informant? lol seemed like what people would call white guilt.
And I don't know the environment there, as opposed to here, that might foster that.
Would you say there was a sudden push for equality that escalated tension in relatively recent years?
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: remake]
#26754692 - 06/18/20 03:16 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Niffla] 3
#26754702 - 06/18/20 03:19 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: budmanman]
#26754715 - 06/18/20 03:24 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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What kind of world do we live in where there are actual real human beings that exist who are butthurt about some little kids show called Paw Patrol
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: CookieCrumbs] 1
#26754729 - 06/18/20 03:28 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think the main thing with us is blatant corruption in the government. I was too young to remember anything from when Mandela was president, but I believe it was going relatively well until he left.
You'll get a lot of people who would say that Apartheid should still be in place. I'm not one of them, though.
All our tension at the moment has more to do with abuse of governmental power that has grown a bit out of control, more than just pure racism. But there is definitely some heavy stuff going on there as well.
White farmers are being killed in very brutal ways here, primarily by people who happen to be black. I think people who do truly bad stuff come in all colours.
There is also an opposing governmental party, luckily not in control, called the EFF, whose leader says stuff like "KILL THE BOER(WHITE FARMER)" at his rallies and stuff. They also want to take all the land from white people.
However, you also get very racist and sketchy white people here of course.
I think as long as there is greed, there is going to be people who would like to take as much power as possible, no matter what method, or excuse they use for it.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Niffla]
#26754730 - 06/18/20 03:29 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Niffla]
#26754741 - 06/18/20 03:32 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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fucking hate that stuff like this lingers in my mind from being a commercial so many times why can't my brain just give that up and use the space for more useful information retention? x_x
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Tantrika]
#26754780 - 06/18/20 03:49 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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After further review ima go ahead and call aunt Jemima some racist ass shit. Also uncle Benson who I thought was like the founder of the company or rice farmer or something might just be some black guy the threw on the box idfk. Butterworth who cares anyway. Cream of wheat put on some white guy who cares. All the Mexican establishments intowm need to charges non racist prices and have non racist menus and names. No more of this over priced rip offs with on par to taco bell authenticity. People know and won't forget
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Niffla]
#26754784 - 06/18/20 03:51 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Niffla said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/kslnewsradio.com/1927142/cancel-paw-patrol/amp/
Paw Patrol has "muted" its content as it mulls its next step...

Honestly that show is awful man. It's unwatchable. Everyone in that town is such a fucking idiot.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: psi]
#26754788 - 06/18/20 03:52 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Butterworth was the British nanny thats sweeter than a spoonful of sugar and just amazing curves and u people have now ruined that too.
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wheres the line
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: psi]
#26754801 - 06/18/20 03:57 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Niffla said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/kslnewsradio.com/1927142/cancel-paw-patrol/amp/
Paw Patrol has "muted" its content as it mulls its next step...

Honestly that show is awful man. It's unwatchable. Everyone in that town is such a fucking idiot.
Never seen Paw Patrol. What channel or platform is it even on
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She's transatlantic at best
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Whoops sorry I said trans and also any mention of transatlantic was not in reference to the slave trade. I suppose that has to be mentioned i guess
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all references to the transatlantic must be followed by giggles then totally unrelated references to the Trans-Canada highway and the Trans-Siberian railway (tho the orchestra is acceptable)
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Tantrika]
#26754839 - 06/18/20 04:09 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I meant her accent. She certainly isn't "black"
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: I meant her accent. She certainly isn't "black"
and personally was referencing your concern over having said trans
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I'm disappointed in uncle Ben. I thought it was the guy who founded it or something how did we let that fly unbelievable
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so sick of racism nobody else wants to speak on aunt Jemima?
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nobody thought it was a hot brand why did it sell then u scumbags
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: nobody thought it was a hot brand why did it sell then u scumbags
yo man chiillllll

you chief
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Niffla] 1
#26755161 - 06/18/20 05:58 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I won't relax cuz i thought everyone was living here on earth with me but I gues theyve just been living on some other planet eating CRAZY pills this whole time.
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: I won't relax cuz i thought everyone was living here on earth with me but I gues theyve just been living on some other planet eating CRAZY pills this whole time.
dude we live in a world where people get triggered over a fucking kids show about cartoon puppies who are cops

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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Tantrika] 2
#26755272 - 06/18/20 06:56 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Emo trans, lol. (new band name?)
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dont forget to wash your hands....
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: starfire_xes]
#26755925 - 06/18/20 10:58 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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for fucks sake, the brand was started by a woman born into slavery and was freed. pepsi is whitewashing its label, and somehow thats supposed to make them less racist? this world is fucked
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Niffla]
#26755969 - 06/18/20 11:36 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Niffla said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/kslnewsradio.com/1927142/cancel-paw-patrol/amp/
Paw Patrol has "muted" its content as it mulls its next step...

Good. Fuck the Police.
Im thinking about writing Blizzard to see if they can ban Cop D.Va and Riot Police Brigitte. Everytime i see those skins being used, I get so fuckin TRIGGERED!!! Fuck the POLICE!!
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: trscstghst]
#26756273 - 06/19/20 03:40 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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trscstghst said: for fucks sake, the brand was started by a woman born into slavery and was freed. pepsi is whitewashing its label, and somehow thats supposed to make them less racist? this world is fucked
Bingo. It's a psyops.
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: zZZz]
#26756342 - 06/19/20 05:12 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm fuckin dead
I still haven't forgotten about what you did though
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#26777187 - 06/23/20 04:09 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Aunt Jemima syrup to be discontinued [Re: Patlal]
#26777198 - 06/23/20 04:13 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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They will find something racial about that also
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