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Robert fuller:black man found hanged near city hall where I live suicide or lynching?
#26747479 - 06/15/20 07:46 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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So usually I would not even give a general location of where I live but this story obviously hit home. Give a little back story this city has about 200,000 to 300000 people in it but it is still considered the high desert suburbs except not even close to rich. I've spent almost all my life here.
Before the pandemic we had one of the highest unemployment rate in the country mostly due to the small amount of jobs versus the amount of people. People here are very much half Democrat and half conservative. I don't know if this had anything to do with it but a local high school I know recently was in controversy over the mascot. The mascot was called The Rebel and look like a Captain Crunch character with military uniform but it was blue in color.
Now that everyone's extremely sensitive, on edge and realizes the need for change in certain are as most people have just said they should change it which is the logical thing and then others were retroactively blaming the people who went to the school because apparently everyone knew the whole time. That pissed me off because no one ever said a damn thing to me about it or else I may have campaigned to change it a long time ago.
Anyway flash forward to a few weeks ago and about 3 in the morning a passerby found Robert Fuller there hanging from a tree near city hall. The stupid ass police press team came out and said foolish lie that they thought it was a suicide before the coroner report came in. So now there is pretty intense protest going on because a lot of people are convinced that no matter what the coroner report says it was a lynching.
My take on it is very well could have been a lynching and forensic and coroner reports would tell the tale of how he died as far as defensive wounds, signs of a struggle or any other smoking guns. Also a terrible possibility is that this man was incredibly depressed and wanted to become a martyr for cause he believed in and the fact that the coroner report is coming out saying he didn't have defensive wounds is suspicious at best
Today they came out with a statement saying they reversed course on that idea and now they have three federal agencies overseeing them as an internal report. Now I know that there is a good amount of redneck hicks around here especially for being in California but I really didn't think there was that level of hatred.
Here's some info . What do y'all think?
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Re: Robert fuller:black man found hanged near city hall where I live suicide or lynching? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#26747500 - 06/15/20 07:52 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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there were 3 I heard in a 50 mile radius
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Re: Robert fuller:black man found hanged near city hall where I live suicide or lynching? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#26747544 - 06/15/20 08:04 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Robert fuller:black man found hanged near city hall where I live suicide or lynching? [Re: cannabinated]
#26747728 - 06/15/20 08:48 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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cannabinated said: there were 3 I heard in a 50 mile radius
Yeah I know of 2 confirmed ones one here and one in like Santa Clarita. That's another thing if the coroners find defensive wounds of any kind it'd be easy to say these were definite lynching so that needs to be thoroughly investigated.
Also my general feeling about the whole thing is that it's a very senseless death no matter what and if it was murder it was heinous and just degrading/humiliating treating them like animals. Terifying sickness.It's almost like killings jews in 2020 by gas chamber or toxic chemical showers. Just sickening if that's what it was. What they should do now is also investigate whether the two victims had any connection with each other. I just hate to jump to conclusions but I want to see the evidence that proves they were lynched before I become a voice for it being a lynching. For my community and the country I sure hope not.
The only possible suicide scenario I can think of is that with all of these men that have died and started revolutions in some people's minds become names that will go down in history as causing change. But that's the only scenario I can possibly think of when hearing the family talk about his dreams, aspirations and seemingly happy personality. That doesn't rule out anything because most people who commits suicide seemed happy enough to get by in life before they're not.
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Re: Robert fuller:black man found hanged near city hall where I live suicide or lynching? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#26747776 - 06/15/20 09:27 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Indoor = suicide Outdoors = lynching
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Re: Robert fuller:black man found hanged near city hall where I live suicide or lynching? [Re: ichugwindex]
#26747785 - 06/15/20 09:30 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thats horrible either way and I'm going to be so pissed if a civil war breaks out
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Re: Robert fuller:black man found hanged near city hall where I live suicide or lynching? [Re: spirit_shadow]
#26747789 - 06/15/20 09:32 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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ichugwindex said: Indoor = suicide Outdoors = lynching
That's the general feeling here . I just want to be able to say this is why it's bullshit because protests don't mean anything if you undermine your point by jumping to conclusions. However they better have DAMN good proof it wasn t a lynchingQuote:
spirit_shadow said: Thats horrible either way and I'm going to be so pissed if a civil war breaks out 
Yeah its sad for the kid the family, the community and the country. More death won't solve a thing
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Re: Robert fuller:black man found hanged near city hall where I live suicide or lynching? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#26747825 - 06/15/20 09:53 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I remember that sheriff from when teh corona virus epidemic was at itz peek, I just thought he spoke Spanish very well, kinda caught me off guard
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Re: Robert fuller:black man found hanged near city hall where I live suicide or lynching? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#26747854 - 06/15/20 10:12 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Within the past week, I've heard of 4-5 black people found hanging (though I think one was out of the country??).
In Robert's case, from what I read, not only was he right in front of the city hall, but he was by one of the biggest American flags in town, around the corner from the sheriff's office and across the street from the fire department. And then at least 1 other person was found not too many miles away, I think I read (would have to look up the exact mileage).
With everything going on in America, it's hard to say these aren't hateful, very likely racially motivated lynchings. It's a very scary time to watch half our country fail an open book test.
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Re: Robert fuller:black man found hanged near city hall where I live suicide or lynching? [Re: ivy.patterns]
#26747858 - 06/15/20 10:15 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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sucks yo
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Re: Robert fuller:black man found hanged near city hall where I live suicide or lynching? [Re: ichugwindex]
#26747865 - 06/15/20 10:18 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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ichugwindex said: Indoor = suicide Outdoors = lynching
Not strictly true.
A trailer park here had alot of copycat suicides by hanging in the woods nearby until they cut the trees down.
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Re: Robert fuller:black man found hanged near city hall where I live suicide or lynching? [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#26747872 - 06/15/20 10:21 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Outdoor suicide - less chance a family member finds you.
Benefit if it could be called that of doing it in a spot know for suicide is anyone finding you is probably half expecting to.
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Re: Robert fuller:black man found hanged near city hall where I live suicide or lynching? [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#26747878 - 06/15/20 10:27 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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CookieCrumbs said:
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ichugwindex said: Indoor = suicide Outdoors = lynching
Not strictly true.
A trailer park here had alot of copycat suicides by hanging in the woods nearby until they cut the trees down.
Thats the aspect people will have a hard time with coming to terms with if it is suicide
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Re: Robert fuller:black man found hanged near city hall where I live suicide or lynching? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#26747884 - 06/15/20 10:31 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Understandably so. Also possible all 3 were under the same for the same social pressure.
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Re: Robert fuller:black man found hanged near city hall where I live suicide or lynching? [Re: ichugwindex]
#26748062 - 06/16/20 01:41 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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ichugwindex said: Indoor = suicide Outdoors = lynching
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Re: Robert fuller:black man found hanged near city hall where I live suicide or lynching? [Re: Jailbird420]
#26748218 - 06/16/20 04:30 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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It was PCP; he fell down the stairs, crack cocaine was found on the body, nothing to see here.
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Re: Robert fuller:black man found hanged near city hall where I live suicide or lynching? [Re: Asante] 1
#26748225 - 06/16/20 04:35 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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i do not think it was suicide.
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Re: Robert fuller:black man found hanged near city hall where I live suicide or lynching? [Re: sui]
#26748919 - 06/16/20 01:00 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Robert fuller:black man found hanged near city hall where I live suicide or lynching? [Re: sui]
#26749848 - 06/16/20 07:00 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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sui said: i do not think it was suicide.
Yeah by now I'm also having a hard time believing it but I know forensic evidence and checking for defensive wounds would tell the story of what happened. It would be really easy for them to come out and say there was no defensive wounds or there was signs of the struggle. One of the things that is complicating the issue is because three agencies are looking into this it's taking much longer for the coroner report to come out. Rightfully so, the family is waiting for in an independent coroner report and investigation.
In this particular community this seemed to come out of nowhere. I've lived in this area for almost 27 years now, I admit that still is a very limited experience however one of my best friends is black and before this he'd tell me how white people would call their kid a mutt,animal and blacks also said the same thing so I knew that's been a problem.
I also have seen that there is a very disturbing trend specifically on Facebook in this area or probably in every area that spread racial hate through memes under the guise of a joke.Before Floyd I saw alot of people buy into the far right ideology that blacks were taking our jobs, all of them are too lazy and on welfare little shit that turned into all black people that were disadvantaged being thugs that chose to live that way.
Also some of the more egregious memes come from people that I knew as a kid that we're good people. That's what's so dangerous about certain far-right ideologies Just as some far left ideologies like all cops are murderous pigs. None of that shit is bringing us together it's a circlejerk echo chamber of hate.
I'm really sick and tired of all this division.
For Robert fullers family and my community I hope answer come sooner or later. If it was a lynching we need to find those people before they kill again.
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Edited by Seriously_trippin (06/16/20 07:01 PM)
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