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Making Coir-BRF cakes (grow along) * 4
    #26735678 - 06/10/20 10:42 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Where I live vermiculite costs much more than Coco coir so I make BRF cakes with coir instead of verm.
The procedure and ratios are the same as with regular PF Tek BRF cakes,
The only difference is I mix the BRF with hydrated coir instead of hydrated verm.
I 'roll' (coat) the cakes in a thin layer of coir instead of verm after cakes have finished hydrating after birth. That's all.
Cakes are fruited inside The Water Tub.


The Coir/BRF mix looks like this inside newly prepped jars


Cake colonizing


Time for birth


Cakes inside the Water Tub can sit on top of lids, jars or cookie racks.


Cakes fruiting



Feel free to ask questions and to post updates on your own coir cakes here! :hatsoff:


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Re: Making Coir/BRF cakes (grow along) [Re: Mateja] * 1
    #26735691 - 06/10/20 10:53 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Cool. Can you still boil it like the normal of tek? I'd think so. How's the performance? Or did you never use verm?


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Re: Making Coir/BRF cakes (grow along) [Re: Mateja] * 1
    #26735693 - 06/10/20 10:56 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

way to think out of the box homie! very nice fruits


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Re: Making Coir/BRF cakes (grow along) [Re: Izzamagic] * 2
    #26735717 - 06/10/20 11:09 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Cool. Can you still boil it like the normal of tek? I'd think so. How's the performance? Or did you never use verm?



I've done tons of regular PF Tek cakes, I've also experimented with oatmeal/verm cakes before and they also perform as well as regular PF Tek and these coir cakes :thumbup:

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way to think out of the box homie! very nice fruits



I can't even find vermiculite where I live anymore, so I had no choice but to substitute it for coir :shrug:
But :cheers: anyway, I do like to experiment with substrates and fruiting setups. I got more recipes coming up. BRF is damn expensive too compared to other types of flour.


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Re: Making Coir/BRF cakes (grow along) [Re: Mateja] * 1
    #26735721 - 06/10/20 11:11 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

interesting :takingnotes:


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Re: Making Coir/BRF cakes (grow along) [Re: AtmozFear] * 1
    #26743669 - 06/14/20 09:06 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

At this point I'd say that coir cakes work as good as verm cakes from just the first few that I have fruited thus far. I'm convinced this is a successful recipe and probably won't be buying vermiculite ever again :shrug: for me personally  nothing will motivate me to buy verm cause it's harder to get ahold of and costs more, so it's not even a consideration.


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Re: Making Coir/BRF cakes (grow along) [Re: Mateja] * 1
    #26743701 - 06/14/20 09:24 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Actually, coir holds a lot of water. It seems like it would give better flushes with more water available. But, it should shrink more than verm cakes. That should be sweet for something like the chronic tek

Do you have a recipe?


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Re: Making Coir/BRF cakes (grow along) [Re: Soccrates] * 1
    #26743713 - 06/14/20 09:30 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Do you have a recipe?



For these BRF coir cakes or something else?


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Re: Making Coir/BRF cakes (grow along) [Re: Mateja] * 1
    #26743833 - 06/14/20 10:39 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Do you just shoot your cakes up with spore syringe or do you have a cleaned up culture?


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Re: Making Coir/BRF cakes (grow along) [Re: redeyesmj] * 1
    #26744065 - 06/14/20 12:54 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Currently I have cakes made from LI, LC and Agar cultures. But I don't see why I wouldn't have high success rate with spores as well. There would be occasional lost cakes but the majority would work out just fine because cakes done correctly should be fairly to highly resistent to uncontrolled spreads of bacterial colonies.


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Re: Making Coir/BRF cakes (grow along) [Re: Mateja] * 1
    #26744090 - 06/14/20 01:15 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Interesting that you use the same amount of water since coir absorbs like 5x its weight in water almos. So you are using just dry coir from a brick?


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Re: Making Coir/BRF cakes (grow along) [Re: InnerWisdom] * 1
    #26744107 - 06/14/20 01:27 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I hydrate 650g coir with 3L water and that's the coir that I use for the BRF mix.


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Re: Making Coir/BRF cakes (grow along) [Re: Mateja] * 1
    #26744147 - 06/14/20 01:45 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Interesting! Marking this one, just in case Shoeboxes turn out to be too hard and I have to drop back to cakes.


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Re: Making Coir/BRF cakes (grow along) [Re: Mateja] * 1
    #26744169 - 06/14/20 01:54 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

That's what I thought too. Noobs will know now :thumbup:


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Re: Making Coir/BRF cakes (grow along) [Re: Mateja] * 1
    #26745036 - 06/14/20 09:42 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Do you have a recipe?



For these BRF coir cakes or something else?




For these. I guess you hydrate the coir and mix 2:1 with brf?


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Re: Making Coir/BRF cakes (grow along) [Re: Soccrates] * 1
    #26745044 - 06/14/20 09:47 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah hydrate coir to field capacity and mix 2 cups coir 1 cup brf.

Glad you finally made this post Mateah. I got pics and will upload soon.


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Re: Making Coir/BRF cakes (grow along) [Re: Soccrates] * 1
    #26745902 - 06/15/20 08:16 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

:rockon: always nice to see more growers experimenting


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Mateah said:
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Soccrates said:
Do you have a recipe?



For these BRF coir cakes or something else?




For these. I guess you hydrate the coir and mix 2:1 with brf?



Yes just like it says in the OP :thumbup:


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Re: Making Coir/BRF cakes (grow along) [Re: Mateja] * 1
    #26746035 - 06/15/20 09:29 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Mateah said:
:rockon: always nice to see more growers experimenting


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Soccrates said:
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Mateah said:
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Soccrates said:
Do you have a recipe?



For these BRF coir cakes or something else?




For these. I guess you hydrate the coir and mix 2:1 with brf?



Yes just like it says in the OP :thumbup:




But to be fair, it's not the same as regular pf tek. Way more water. I was pretty much wondering if you used extra water to account for the brf taking moisture


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Re: Making Coir/BRF cakes (grow along) [Re: Soccrates] * 1
    #26746099 - 06/15/20 09:53 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Oooh this is great! I'm going to run out of verm fairly soon, but I still have a massive stash of coir. Thanks for this!


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Re: Making Coir/BRF cakes (grow along) [Re: Soccrates] * 1
    #26746460 - 06/15/20 12:17 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

It isn't really alot more moisture if you think about it. Because the coir is hydrated and enlarged it almost seems like it is alot more bRF, because the water is already in before you measure your ingredients. So 2 verm dry to 2 hydrated coir probably means less non nutrious substrate and more nutrient rich BRF because your doing 2 cups to 1 cup.

I hope that makes sense.

I guess another way of looking at it is bring a shit load of Vermiculite to field capacity and then measure 2 cups to 1 cup of BRF. But measure how much water you made field capacity with the Vermiculite I bet it is less than 1 cup.


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