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Asante
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You are like a stack of files, and a trip throws it over. 4
#26745958 - 06/15/20 08:53 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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You are like a stack of files.
Every time you trip, at first the stack is tipped over all across the desk.
This is the first quarter of the trip (1.5h for shroooms, 3h for LSD)
Then you have all those files mingling together.
This is the second quarter of the trip (1.5-3h for shrooms, 3-6h for LSD)
Then you start re-stacking the files in order of importance for best efficiency.
This is the second half of the trip. (3-6h for shrooms, 6-12h for LSD)
Then the trip is over and the stack of files that is YOU is re-stacked.
If you had a WELL INTEGRATED TRIP you are stacked stronger and more stable and efficient than before the trip.
If you had a BADLY INTEGRATED TRIP your new stack is less stable or less efficient than it was before your trip.
If the latter is the case your stack will try to re-stack itself.
These are FLASHBACKS and PSYCHOLOGICAL AND EMOTIONAL AFTER EFFECTS
If you had a WELL INTEGRATED TRIP, you have become HIGHER FUNCTIONAL in your sober life
NOW do you see the healing and destructive potential of tripping, and the importance f tripping well?
The Coming Down phase is THE MOST IMPORTANT PHASE of the trip. Fuck THAT up, and you come out, fucked up.
Its OK to get in psychological trouble in the first half of the trip, BUT YOU MUST WORK ON RESOLVING THIS IN THE SECOND HALF.
Now do you see why its impotant that you are in a situation where you can lie down and devote 100% of your attention to nothing but what happens in that trip?
You are throwing over the stack of files of our personality in order to make a better stack. This is an organic, automatic process butb at times your input is crucial for the outcome.
You can literally become a stronger, more effective and better person through tripping.
Now you see also that people unable to handle themselves psychologically should never take psychedelics.
Now you have POWER, the power of knowledge of how psychedelics can benefit or hinder you.
Use it wisely!
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Re: You are like a stack of files, and a trip throws it over. [Re: Asante]
#26745964 - 06/15/20 08:58 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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When is the last time you tripped your face off Asante
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Re: You are like a stack of files, and a trip throws it over. [Re: Niffla] 2
#26745971 - 06/15/20 09:00 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Niffla said: When is the last time you tripped your face off Asante
:tableflip:
'the fuck did I miss that pun, it's the entire damn setup
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Re: You are like a stack of files, and a trip throws it over. [Re: Niffla] 1
#26745982 - 06/15/20 09:03 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Niffla said: When is the last time you tripped your face off Asante
November, 8 months ago.
I tripped for 100 hours uninterrupted.
4 days, 3 nights.
It was what I call the Trip of Trips, and I stand rock solid like the Eiffel tower now.
I broke myself down to the last stone of my foundations, psychosis, then built myself up from scratch to a new man.
Stronger. Better. Happier.
I don't feel any incentive to trip any time soon, even during lockdown, my sobriety suffices me.
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Re: You are like a stack of files, and a trip throws it over. [Re: Asante]
#26745985 - 06/15/20 09:05 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Asante said:
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Niffla said: When is the last time you tripped your face off Asante
November, 8 months ago.
I tripped for 100 hours uninterrupted.
4 days, 3 nights.
It was what I call the Trip of Trips, and I stand rock solid like the Eiffel tower now.
100 hours?!?? What did you do, just keep redosing?
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Re: You are like a stack of files, and a trip throws it over. [Re: Niffla]
#26745994 - 06/15/20 09:09 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Absolutely, redosing up the wazoo, and Shroomerites know where thats at
Stimulant side effects enabled me to make that ultimate sacrifice.
First half of the trip was my worst bad trip, 50 hours thereof, then sencond half became my best ever trip.
And THATS how I stabilized and THATS where I parted with my final stash.
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Re: You are like a stack of files, and a trip throws it over. [Re: Asante] 1
#26746003 - 06/15/20 09:15 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Asante said: Absolutely, redosing up the wazoo
First half of the trip was my worst bad trip, 50 hours thereof, then sencond half became my best ever trip.
I am a HUGE supporter of the back to back trip. In your case it was more like...back to back to back to back.
But the first day of tripping (after not tripping in a while) is often uncomfortable and confusing. Laced with high levels of anxiety. But the next day dose...magnificent. It's so much clearer and defined. And beautiful. The anxiety is gone too. The come up is a breeze compared to the previous day's come up (which for me are always difficult).
My favorite way to trip is the 2nd day of a back to back. Some of my most beautiful experiences came that way, and arguably the most euphoric trip of my life came on the 2nd day of a back to back.
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Re: You are like a stack of files, and a trip throws it over. [Re: Asante] 1
#26746005 - 06/15/20 09:15 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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The symbolism of the bad trip was focussed on the holocaust so to pay that my ultimate respect I agreed with my Spirit Guide that he could "work me to near death" like a Sonderkommando provided I would come out stronger. He proposed 50 hours and then pulled a switcheroo and made me do 100.
I have been down on the concrete and up to Heaven.
For a month after the trip I was messed up with elatedness that the ordeal was over and that I felt so good. I had my physician monitor me that it wouldnt become mania.
It didnt.
God is a proper cunt sometimes but he keeps his promises, the experience even cured my dissociative addiction 
Ythan and Geokills were quite worried but when they saw that the final ordeal closed the dissociative era for me, it reassured them.
"it was something I had to do"
I was coming apart with loose ends, at some points the re-tying had to start.
Now I'm Supersane but it sure was a close call. Progress is often made at the edge of the abyss. Rock bottom.
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Re: You are like a stack of files, and a trip throws it over. [Re: Asante]
#26746212 - 06/15/20 10:48 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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feels more like a defrag to me. no one uses actual files anymore.
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Edited by yageman (04/20/06 4:20 PM)
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Re: You are like a stack of files, and a trip throws it over. [Re: wrestler_az] 1
#26746214 - 06/15/20 10:49 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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wrestler_az said: feels more like a defrag to me. no one uses actual files anymore.
and everything can be lost to a magnet fucking magnets
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Re: You are like a stack of files, and a trip throws it over. [Re: Tantrika] 3
#26746243 - 06/15/20 10:57 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tantrika said:
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wrestler_az said: feels more like a defrag to me. no one uses actual files anymore.
and everything can be lost to a magnet fucking magnets
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Re: You are like a stack of files, and a trip throws it over. [Re: Tantrika] 1
#26746251 - 06/15/20 11:00 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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fucking magnets. how do they work?
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Edited by yageman (04/20/06 4:20 PM)
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Re: You are like a stack of files, and a trip throws it over. [Re: wrestler_az] 3
#26746255 - 06/15/20 11:01 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I didn't want to do it but you fucks made me
Y'all made me do this
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Re: You are like a stack of files, and a trip throws it over. [Re: Niffla]
#26746262 - 06/15/20 11:04 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I really do want to understand the ICP phenomena - yet the core truth of it constantly eludes me. Please Jesus let me understand.
Am I just a fool? Unaware that i am like one who falls for the error of seeking something that is really nothing? I don’t know.
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Re: You are like a stack of files, and a trip throws it over. [Re: The Blind Ass]
#26746269 - 06/15/20 11:06 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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The Blind Ass said: I really do want to understand the ICP phenomena - yet it constantly eludes me. Please Jesus let me understand.
People that can't find anywhere to fit in find fandom with no restrictions on membership then they paint their faces like clowns
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Re: You are like a stack of files, and a trip throws it over. [Re: The Blind Ass]
#26746274 - 06/15/20 11:07 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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The Blind Ass said: I really do want to understand the ICP phenomena - yet the core truth of it constantly eludes me. Please Jesus let me understand.
Am I just a fool? Unaware that i am like one who falls for the error of seeking something that is really nothing? I don’t know.
fucc you boi icp lit af
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Re: You are like a stack of files, and a trip throws it over. [Re: Tantrika]
#26746275 - 06/15/20 11:07 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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* I want to believe
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Re: You are like a stack of files, and a trip throws it over. [Re: The Blind Ass]
#26746464 - 06/15/20 12:19 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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The Blind Ass said: I really do want to understand the ICP phenomena - yet the core truth of it constantly eludes me. Please Jesus let me understand.
Am I just a fool? Unaware that i am like one who falls for the error of seeking something that is really nothing? I don’t know.
I think that you'd have to totally devote yourself to it all to embrace the ICP magic. Face paint, faygo, whatever else they do. Full send, then maybe you'd see the light. Worth it? I highly doubt it.
Interesting allusion Asante. I like to equate the tripping experience with the elemental progression ov Air-Fire-Water-Earth. True ov all substances IMO, but certainly most prominent with psychedelics. And when one re-doses the cycle plays out again, yet the totality ov the stacked experiences also forms an expanded cycle that completes itself. Whether they're seen as positive or negative is derived by one's reaction to the stages and i've found that a trip is rarely negative in totality, even if redemption only ultimately comes in the Earth phase. Here's part ov a post i made in '13 further detailing the cycle:
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AIR : FIRE : WATER : EARTH EAST : SOUTH : WEST : NORTH SPRING : SUMMER : FALL : WINTER SUNRISE : NOON : SUNSET : NIGHT INHALATION : HOLD : EXHALATION : PAUSE
These are the respective correspondences of the elements. I'll attempt to elaborate upon how this ties into the tides of inebriated congression in the following abstracts.
AIR
The air phase actually starts before a drug is even consumed. This is a period of nervousness and excitement. Turbulence of the mind and body often transpire. A release is very common as the sober state metamophizes into the altered, be it in the form of vomiting, movement of the bowels, yawning, or heavy urination. Expectation, regret, discomfort, and giddiness are common in this state. If a desired state is'nt reached one may desire more of the drug.
FIRE
Associated with the 'peak', the effects are in full swing and one either begins to find a greater sense of comfort, or slips deeper into the negative depending on the disposition. The euphoria or anxiety is frequently the most prevalent during this phase. It becomes less rational and more emotional, perceptual, and sensual. One may feel rapturous, animal, and uninhibited. Chaos reigns!
WATER
As the fire fades, a more reflective period begins. One tends to think about both the experience and one's position in life. How can i change? What does this all mean? How can i get more drugs? This tends to be a time of fiending for the more addictive drugs or conversely a pining for a return to normality for ones found anti-addictive. This can also be a very inspirational time when the overly chaotic strains of thought build formation in these more relaxed times.
EARTH
Re-emergence with normality, one begins to move on. The seeds of the experience are planted; some grow and some rendered effete. One can proceed to learn from the experience, or be swayed towards ignorance.
These are just vague perceptions and not to be taken as absolute. And of course people are different and may experience things in an entirely individual light. But i believe that a strong basis is there and one can tie in these various phases of experience with the elemental conceptions.
I feel that these transmutations are most apparent with psychedelics, but apply to all drugs. A phase can vary drastically in length. The air phase of oral 5-meo-mipt for instance is quite long, while it can be very short for some fast acting ones. Some phases can be particularly uncomfortable like the water of many stimulants or the air of psyches with a heavy 5ht1a profile. And some can be particularly marvelous like the fire of ketamine and lsd, or the earth of the mushrooms muscaria. But of course, these are all individually determinant.
And then there's something to be said of combos and the manifold possibilities of interplay. And more of redosing/binging, although that will eventually follow a less exacted suit.
But anyway, this is my conception for a more comprehensive understanding of the metamorphosis a drug journey may take. Apprehend as thou pleases.
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Re: You are like a stack of files, and a trip throws it over. [Re: Asante] 1
#26746726 - 06/15/20 02:29 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I like your analogy. I always see the mind more like an onion thats being peeled layer by layer
I always trip alone. Just some water, something comfy to lie on and a soft lightsource
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Re: You are like a stack of files, and a trip throws it over. [Re: Tripsurfer] 2
#26746733 - 06/15/20 02:32 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tripsurfer said:
I always trip alone.
Same I'm strictly a solo tripper these days.
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