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Re: The script has been written / time is an illusion [Re: Forrester]
    #26743481 - 06/14/20 06:41 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

We are experiencing the same reality but via our individual vessels, which are in themselves remarkably similar too.

You have memory of the leak in the roof don’t you? From previous experiences of it leaking, I’d imagine.
  From that combined with various sensory cues happening throughout the present I would say you’ve developed an intuition for when to set the bucket in the right spot.  All of which combine to create a sort of prescience.

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Re: The script has been written / time is an illusion [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26743485 - 06/14/20 06:48 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

My Spirit Guide says me time and time again: "You experience the universe as if its happening, but for me, everything happens at the same time, and you can say that everything his already happened. The beginning is as near to me as the end. I can remember it or relive it, but bottom line is, it is complete."


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Re: The script has been written / time is an illusion [Re: Asante]
    #26743497 - 06/14/20 06:55 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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You have memory of the leak in the roof don’t you? From previous experiences of it leaking, I’d imagine.
  From that combined with various sensory cues happening throughout the present I would say you’ve developed an intuition for when to set the bucket in the right spot.  All of which combine to create a sort of prescience.




I think you understand, but am not sure, that I did not mean a literal leak in the roof :wink:

Because you said intuition, and yes that is it.  But it's not based on previous experience of a roof leaking (a learned behaviour), it's pure intuition. 

There is a real difference between intuition and learned behaviour.  I do this, I don't know then why, and I see later why I did.

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My Spirit Guide says me time and time again: "You experience the universe as if its happening, but for me, everything happens at the same time, and you can say that everything his already happened. The beginning is as near to me as the end. I can remember it or relive it, but bottom line is, it is complete."




I had a feeling you would be in agreement here :grin:


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Re: The script has been written / time is an illusion [Re: Forrester]
    #26743555 - 06/14/20 07:58 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I don’t subscribe to the concept of future in the way it is classically thought.




On that we certainly agree :grin:

I think I see it a bit differently though.  In your river analogy you mention trying to guess.

Take trying (or thinking at all) out of that. 

Without thinking, I often find myself setting down a pot, minutes before the water starts to drip through the ceiling at that very spot.



You can make coffee without thinking too. It's an exercise.

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Re: The script has been written / time is an illusion [Re: Forrester]
    #26743595 - 06/14/20 08:22 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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You can make coffee without thinking too. It's an exercise.





Yes, you can.  Again, this is a learned behaviour.

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There is a real difference between intuition and learned behaviour.





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Re: The script has been written / time is an illusion [Re: Forrester]
    #26744599 - 06/14/20 06:07 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

What is your opinion guys.. about remembering the future?


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Re: The script has been written / time is an illusion [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #26745162 - 06/14/20 10:47 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I have now slept & awoken refreshed and anew.  So where were we?


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Re: The script has been written / time is an illusion [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26745247 - 06/14/20 11:32 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Your soul mate would do anything for you..

But as the golden rule says.. can we all be soulmates to each other?


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Re: The script has been written / time is an illusion [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26745499 - 06/15/20 04:08 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I have now slept & awoken refreshed and anew.  So where were we?




I have forgotten :lol:  Tea? 

I will try and think of other ways the world likes to show me time doesn't exist... it's a difficult one for sure.


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Re: The script has been written / time is an illusion [Re: Forrester]
    #26745508 - 06/15/20 04:14 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Attempting to trace the absolute beginning and/or end of an event or thing usually evokes a sense of timelessness for me.


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Re: The script has been written / time is an illusion [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26745519 - 06/15/20 04:18 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I've heard Alan Watts use that one a few times, it's a good way to think of it  :yesnod:


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Re: The script has been written / time is an illusion [Re: Forrester] * 1
    #26745522 - 06/15/20 04:20 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

It’s also good for elucidating the Buddhist doctrine of interdependent origination.  Or as some call it, oneness.

I like the term primordial as opposed to eternal - but it’s semantics really.  Implying an always already - never not - presence.  As opposed to reality or the universe having a true beginning.  It Just always was / or - always already is - that’s what I mean by primordial...unbegun - unoriginated.  It gets around and deals with the problem of The first causes dilemma too.


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Re: The script has been written / time is an illusion [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #26745527 - 06/15/20 04:23 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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What is your opinion guys.. about remembering the future?





I've premembered lots of things.

Unfortunately, winning powerball numbers were not among them.


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Re: The script has been written / time is an illusion [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26745535 - 06/15/20 04:28 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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It’s also good for elucidating the Buddhist doctrine of interdependent origination.  Or as some call it, oneness.

I like the term primordial as opposed to eternal - but it’s semantics really.  Implying an always already - never not - presence.  As opposed to reality or the universe having a true beginning.  It Just always was / or - always already is - that’s what I mean by primordial...unbegun - unoriginated.  It gets around and deals with the problem of The first causes dilemma too.




Good point.  Maybe the difficulty in understanding the (time thing) stems from separating it from the (one-ness thing).  All events and things are connected as one with no beginning or end, there is no time OR place.

I dunno, it's as if our minds take the simplest concept, the ONLY concept, and jumble it all up so horribly we can't understand it at all. :confused:


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Re: The script has been written / time is an illusion [Re: Forrester]
    #26745546 - 06/15/20 04:34 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

The mind allows us to illusively slice up infinity into bit sized finite pieces - aka quantify - for the sake of operating to survive and live the way we do in the phenomenological world.  It’s highly useful on one hand in a conventional sense, but on the other it can spoil the mind, and it is the spoiled mind which mistakes unity for duality, spawning the universal delusion (ignorance)- and every other delusion there is springs forth from the universal delusion.  The remedy for this Universal delusion is Primal Non-Dual Awareness, our natural sovereign state.  Clear, like stainless radiance.


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Re: The script has been written / time is an illusion [Re: The Blind Ass] * 1
    #26745579 - 06/15/20 04:58 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Primal Non-Dual Awareness, our natural sovereign state.  Clear, like stainless radiance.




:bigyesnod:


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Re: The script has been written / time is an illusion [Re: Forrester]
    #26745608 - 06/15/20 05:09 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Tracing Back the Radiance by Robert Buswell fits in with that.


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Re: The script has been written / time is an illusion [Re: Inthepit]
    #26745672 - 06/15/20 05:51 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Sounds interesting, adding to my list :smile:


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Re: The script has been written / time is an illusion [Re: Forrester]
    #26958622 - 09/28/20 10:51 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Sounds interesting, adding to my list :smile:




Sorry to drag up an old thread, but I just ran across this article and wanted to see what you all thought.  Starting in the mid 90's some physicists feel that evidence has been mounting that the ordinary formulation of physics, in a space-time with three space and one time dimensions (1T-physics), is insufficient to describe our world.  Here is a really interesting article about a 2-time universe, in which the author talks about the possibility of a hidden dimension of time.  String Theory and M Theory talk about multiple dimensions, but only a single dimension of time. 

https://phys.org/news/2007-05-two-time-universe-physicist-explores-dimension.html

I am not a physicist at all, and I am not smart enough to comment on the intricacies of string or M theory.  But it does seem very interesting how many reports there are of humans interacting with beings (in mushroom, DMT, ETC) trips that seem to be outside the notion of time.  Just like we have hierarchies of intelligence in the animal world, could their also be hierarchies of sentient beings who are relegated to higher and lower realms of time manipulation or the experience of time in different ways?  Much like, I would imagine that a lower mammal like a chipmunk probably does not "remember" a really good tasting acorn he had 12 years ago, but I still remember the smell, taste and look of a birthday cake my mom made me when I was 8.  I am navigating, not through the dimension of time, but in a recollection of time, in a much different way than the chipmunk.  Could higher dimensional being wade through the time signature of past, present and future as easily as we recall past memories or events?

I know for myself, I feel like I've experienced the feeling or the concept of infinity in my trips.  I of course, would not be able to expound or put into writing how that felt or the ludicrousness, and almost maddening sensation that  had.  That being said - could time already been written, and at the same time be accessible in different ways to different beings in different dimensions?  Very puzzling and interesting topic.  Any thoughts?


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Re: The script has been written / time is an illusion [Re: Rat-a-Tat]
    #26959074 - 09/28/20 04:31 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Cool article.  This part stuck me:

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Bars’ math suggests that the familiar world of four dimensions — three of space, one of time — is merely a shadow of a richer six-dimensional reality. In this view the ordinary world is like a two-dimensional wall displaying shadows of the objects in a three-dimensional room.




Reminds me of Plato's cave, and some of the sayings in mystical texts.  Not to mention what a lot of us have experienced in trips and other states.


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