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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Tantrika] 1
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Hmm, maybe don't fight the police for a DWI arrest and then steal a tazer and then fire that tazer at a cop. I'm sorry, but this isn't a Floyd murder case.
The strange thing about this, to me is we had a case in Winnipeg a while ago (will dig it out shortly) of the cops holding down a dude and one of them kicking him and they credit having kicked him with saving his life because he was reaching for a knife and they may have otherwise had to shoot him
why does it seem so many incidents down there go from 0 to 100 instantly? my guess is a failing education system that means citizens don't have means and many are living on a constant on the edge lifeline and a police training system that does not last as long as it takes a gender studies major to get a degree

So dug out article, it is from Winnipeg police called in to reports of a man with a gun breaking a window in the downtown arts and culture district the area with all the museums and concert halls and stuff and is classed as a National Historic Site
3 minute video available through link, not sure if it will play or is blocked for people outside of Canada
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-police-use-of-force-video-1.5609269
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Video of Winnipeg police officers kneeing and repeatedly kicking a man, who was on the ground, during a recent arrest has enraged critics — but a police spokesperson says the use of force was justified, and might have saved the man's life.
The video, taken by a witness, shows three officers pinning a man face down during an arrest on Thursday morning. One knees the man in the side, and another, holding a carbine rifle, walks up and kicks him twice in the shoulder.
The witness video, which runs a little over a minute, was posted online that afternoon by Winnipeg Police Cause Harm, which describes itself as a police abolitionist group.
Winnipeg police released three minutes of surveillance video showing the incident from different angles after a news conference on Friday afternoon.
"Admittedly, it's a tough video to watch," Winnipeg Police Service spokesperson Const. Jay Murray said at the news conference.
Murray said three people called 911 just before 8 a.m. local time on Thursday about a man with a gun in the city's Exchange District.
Police say the man smashed the window of the Centennial Concert Hall with a brick and threw down the gun when officers arrived. But he refused to comply with their demands to get on the ground, and assaulted one of them, police said.
As police struggled to handcuff him, they found he was carrying a knife and a heavy bar, Murray said. The gun turned out to be an Airsoft gun.
The bar is not seen in either video. A black object which appears to be the gun is visible in the video police provided. Murray identified another small object as the knife. It's unclear if the man is handcuffed.
After the man throws the gun, the officers chase him down the street and tackle him, which is when the witness video begins.
Murray said Winnipeg police are trained to use force — for example, kicking someone in the shoulder — to avoid having to use lethal force. In this case, officers were trying to stop the man from grabbing the knife, he said.
"That kick likely saved his life. If that individual gets a hold on that knife that's in his waistband … we're potentially in a lethal force encounter," Murray said. "You can see from that video, we're trying to get his arms, [and] we can't."
The man later told police he had used a "significant amount" of methamphetamine the evening before, Murray said.
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The video surfaced less than a week after thousands gathered at the Manitoba Legislature demanding justice for Black people, and sweeping changes to policing and the administration of justice — one of many such protests around the world following the killing of George Floyd, by a Minneapolis police officer.
Several people criticized the use of force seen in the video. One woman said online she witnessed the arrest and that it didn't look like the man was resisting.
Murray said police knew people had questions about the original video, so they released the surveillance video to give more context.
"We don't want to unnecessarily escalate tensions in the community," he said. "It's no secret that there's been a lot of scrutiny on police in North America."
Murray said the arrested man identified as Indigenous, and that police Chief Danny Smyth reached out to Indigenous leaders after the arrest, including Manitoba Keewatinowi Okimakanak (MKO) Grand Chief Garrison Settee.
Settee says the MKO is concerned by how some police forces in Canada have handled certain incidents.
"The police have a duty to protect and yet it seems like we have to protect ourselves against them now," Settee said in a statement Thursday.
Assembly of Manitoba Chiefs Grand Chief Arlen Dumas told CBC News that he was disappointed that the police tried justifying the use of force.
"I see a group of police officers throwing somebody on the ground, restraining them, and then preceding to give a guy soccer kicks to the head. Kneeing the individual when he's already down," said Dumas.
"I don't see why any of that was necessary."
Kevin Walby, an assistant professor of criminal justice at the University of Winnipeg, who has researched police use of force, said the man was already restrained when the kicking and kneeing happened.
"If the person's already restrained, you're not facing force anymore and you're not justified in kicking them or stepping on him or deploying a weapon," he said.
"They're trying to make it seem as if all of this was justified, when I can't think of one way in which it is," he said.
He said the witness video is shocking, especially in the broader context of the current discussion around police violence and defunding the police.
Walby said the information police gave about the arrest seems to direct blame at the man for how he was treated, when there are larger issues at play when people act out — such as mental illness, addictions and other social issues.
"The bigger picture is that the movement right now to defund the police speaks to a lot of these issues. Yes we have transgression in our communities, yes we have people who engage in wrongdoing — but why is that?," he said.
"I think we should really be looking at the lack of funding for social and community development coming from the province, coming from the city."
CBC News had reached out to the Independent Investigation Unit and Winnipeg Police Cause Harm for comment and is waiting for a response.
the (airsoft) gun can be seen being tossed down near the beginning of the video, as well as one of the officers stopping to pick it up while the others advance and the knife pretty visibly clatters away from him on the second kick, even if it is unclear whether he is reaching for it or just trying to pull his arms away from being cuffed as soon as he is restrained they more or less ease up off of him, gather up the knife and such
recognize the dude who grabbed the taser and turned it against an officer as having brought a response against himself but do not understand how a call for DWI escalates to that level, and then to a lethal shooting of a fleeing suspect
vs a case up here of immediate compliance to drop what was perceived and treated as a lethal handgun until after the arrest but still an attempt to flee, and potentially employ a weapon coming to public light to be scrutinized as police brutality for kicking and kneeing
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: cannabinated]
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That cop was a bitch lol he ran away from the dude
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Psyche delics]
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: cannabinated]
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"making the community safer" while they allow people to assualt him steal his bike and slash his tires. I'd love to go to one of those things any happening on the east coast right now?
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Tantrika]
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Hmm, maybe don't fight the police for a DWI arrest and then steal a tazer and then fire that tazer at a cop. I'm sorry, but this isn't a Floyd murder case.
The strange thing about this, to me is we had a case in Winnipeg a while ago (will dig it out shortly) of the cops holding down a dude and one of them kicking him and they credit having kicked him with saving his life because he was reaching for a knife and they may have otherwise had to shoot him
why does it seem so many incidents down there go from 0 to 100 instantly? my guess is a failing education system that means citizens don't have means and many are living on a constant on the edge lifeline and a police training system that does not last as long as it takes a gender studies major to get a degree

So dug out article, it is from Winnipeg police called in to reports of a man with a gun breaking a window in the downtown arts and culture district the area with all the museums and concert halls and stuff and is classed as a National Historic Site
3 minute video available through link, not sure if it will play or is blocked for people outside of Canada
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-police-use-of-force-video-1.5609269
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Video of Winnipeg police officers kneeing and repeatedly kicking a man, who was on the ground, during a recent arrest has enraged critics — but a police spokesperson says the use of force was justified, and might have saved the man's life.
The video, taken by a witness, shows three officers pinning a man face down during an arrest on Thursday morning. One knees the man in the side, and another, holding a carbine rifle, walks up and kicks him twice in the shoulder.
The witness video, which runs a little over a minute, was posted online that afternoon by Winnipeg Police Cause Harm, which describes itself as a police abolitionist group.
Winnipeg police released three minutes of surveillance video showing the incident from different angles after a news conference on Friday afternoon.
"Admittedly, it's a tough video to watch," Winnipeg Police Service spokesperson Const. Jay Murray said at the news conference.
Murray said three people called 911 just before 8 a.m. local time on Thursday about a man with a gun in the city's Exchange District.
Police say the man smashed the window of the Centennial Concert Hall with a brick and threw down the gun when officers arrived. But he refused to comply with their demands to get on the ground, and assaulted one of them, police said.
As police struggled to handcuff him, they found he was carrying a knife and a heavy bar, Murray said. The gun turned out to be an Airsoft gun.
The bar is not seen in either video. A black object which appears to be the gun is visible in the video police provided. Murray identified another small object as the knife. It's unclear if the man is handcuffed.
After the man throws the gun, the officers chase him down the street and tackle him, which is when the witness video begins.
Murray said Winnipeg police are trained to use force — for example, kicking someone in the shoulder — to avoid having to use lethal force. In this case, officers were trying to stop the man from grabbing the knife, he said.
"That kick likely saved his life. If that individual gets a hold on that knife that's in his waistband … we're potentially in a lethal force encounter," Murray said. "You can see from that video, we're trying to get his arms, [and] we can't."
The man later told police he had used a "significant amount" of methamphetamine the evening before, Murray said.
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The video surfaced less than a week after thousands gathered at the Manitoba Legislature demanding justice for Black people, and sweeping changes to policing and the administration of justice — one of many such protests around the world following the killing of George Floyd, by a Minneapolis police officer.
Several people criticized the use of force seen in the video. One woman said online she witnessed the arrest and that it didn't look like the man was resisting.
Murray said police knew people had questions about the original video, so they released the surveillance video to give more context.
"We don't want to unnecessarily escalate tensions in the community," he said. "It's no secret that there's been a lot of scrutiny on police in North America."
Murray said the arrested man identified as Indigenous, and that police Chief Danny Smyth reached out to Indigenous leaders after the arrest, including Manitoba Keewatinowi Okimakanak (MKO) Grand Chief Garrison Settee.
Settee says the MKO is concerned by how some police forces in Canada have handled certain incidents.
"The police have a duty to protect and yet it seems like we have to protect ourselves against them now," Settee said in a statement Thursday.
Assembly of Manitoba Chiefs Grand Chief Arlen Dumas told CBC News that he was disappointed that the police tried justifying the use of force.
"I see a group of police officers throwing somebody on the ground, restraining them, and then preceding to give a guy soccer kicks to the head. Kneeing the individual when he's already down," said Dumas.
"I don't see why any of that was necessary."
Kevin Walby, an assistant professor of criminal justice at the University of Winnipeg, who has researched police use of force, said the man was already restrained when the kicking and kneeing happened.
"If the person's already restrained, you're not facing force anymore and you're not justified in kicking them or stepping on him or deploying a weapon," he said.
"They're trying to make it seem as if all of this was justified, when I can't think of one way in which it is," he said.
He said the witness video is shocking, especially in the broader context of the current discussion around police violence and defunding the police.
Walby said the information police gave about the arrest seems to direct blame at the man for how he was treated, when there are larger issues at play when people act out — such as mental illness, addictions and other social issues.
"The bigger picture is that the movement right now to defund the police speaks to a lot of these issues. Yes we have transgression in our communities, yes we have people who engage in wrongdoing — but why is that?," he said.
"I think we should really be looking at the lack of funding for social and community development coming from the province, coming from the city."
CBC News had reached out to the Independent Investigation Unit and Winnipeg Police Cause Harm for comment and is waiting for a response.
the (airsoft) gun can be seen being tossed down near the beginning of the video, as well as one of the officers stopping to pick it up while the others advance and the knife pretty visibly clatters away from him on the second kick, even if it is unclear whether he is reaching for it or just trying to pull his arms away from being cuffed as soon as he is restrained they more or less ease up off of him, gather up the knife and such
recognize the dude who grabbed the taser and turned it against an officer as having brought a response against himself but do not understand how a call for DWI escalates to that level, and then to a lethal shooting of a fleeing suspect
vs a case up here of immediate compliance to drop what was perceived and treated as a lethal handgun until after the arrest but still an attempt to flee, and potentially employ a weapon coming to public light to be scrutinized as police brutality for kicking and kneeing
Yes, a very simple DWI arrest was escalated, but in this case not by the police. We have to be intellectually honest on a case by case basis. There was absolutely no need to attack the cops and steal their weapon, that was a major fuck up.
There's tons of cases where the cops are obviously in the wrong, it's pointless to focus on cases that are not clear cut in my opinion.
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: qman]
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Yes, a very simple DWI arrest was escalated, but in this case not by the police. We have to be intellectually honest on a case by case basis. There was absolutely no need to attack the cops and steal their weapon, that was a major fuck up.
There's tons of cases where the cops are obviously in the wrong, it's pointless to focus on cases that are not clear cut in my opinion.
Am not denying the dude escalated it, my statement is a lack of comprehension as to why alcohol emboldens people, but what type of culture of fear does someone have to live in that trying to take a weapon and flee in that situation, rather than accept citation seemed reasonable
in my link provided, if the dude had not resisted past dropping the gun he may have at most gotten a vandalism charge when it was found that the gun was not real, and the knife appeared to be a straight blade which is not illegal here to my comprehension (maybe concealment?) he would have gotten off
but also do not comprehend the variation in police response US police provided a lethal response to a fleeing suspect who tried to employ a taser Canadian city police provided a non-lethal response to a resisting suspect thought to have two to three weapons
We can recognize that there are issues with police education and training that have moved them from being viewed as a group to be trusted to one that is to be feared
but think there are also addressable issues with regards to the education, mental health, addiction, and living standards of citizens that give them an attitude that such responses to police are without risk, or at least of less risk than the treatment otherwise
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
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Google maps is on to something. Made me laugh where the statue now stands. Government is so lazy it would take a year for them to notice.
Seattle is batshit crazy with Trump in office. Reminds me of that family guy episode of Petersburg or something. They have guns. Military has a lot more powerful ones than you.
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Avvruk said: Well I don't watch Fox news, maybe sometimes Tucker. This is the specimen that was begging for soy. You need to be approved to see her tweets, but you don't even need to see them to understand how fucked up this person is.

Abolish whiteness? Wonder what her thoughts are as far as strategy how to get something like that done. Genocide I guess?
Or maybe we all get sent to the beach for forced browning.
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: viraldrome] 1
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why not? we can make white people darker, we cant make black people lighter.
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sui said: why not? we can make white people darker, we cant make black people lighter.

aside from pale goth women being sexy as hell there are very real and often underdiscussed issues with "tanning culture"
it is pretty well recognized that there was a period of history where the ruling class embraced paleness to be pale in multiple cultures meant to be above physical toil tanning of the skin was an effect of physical labour, paleness was an indicator of class
in modern society, it is often under appreciated but this has been reversed Trump is orange because the culture is one where wealth is associated with the leisure to tan be it laying on the beach, or napping in a tanning bed the goal is to look as tho one is removed from physical labour
this is why "redneck" targets a particular group of people tanning is "good" having a "farmer tan" (sun burnt then aggressively tanned forearms neck and face with a pale torso) is a symbol of poverty, to be ridiculed as the underclass among whites they are people who cannot afford to get an even tan
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Tantrika]
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that wasnt really a serious comment. Though there is a point buried in there.
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: sui]
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no ur a towel
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We all need to recognize how ridiculous the concept of race is in the first place. I mean for fuck sake the word "racism" came into existence in the early 20th century. These classifications need to die already. We're all human beings for fuck sake. I blame the scientists of the 1800s who came up with arbitrary racial classifications that were essentially pesudo science used to justify their prejudices.
Abolishing "whiteness" is what I assume to mean the "white standard" of society. Are y'all familiar with the concept of passing? This concept dates back to the days of slavery and still exists till this day for some fucking reason which annoys me so much. we should be way past this bullshit but we're not. So for the longest time slave owners would have relations (rape) with their slaves and thus they'd have kids. If the kid looked white enough then that kid would be afforded "benefits" growing up vs darker skinned children. Fast forward past the civil war and you had many mixed adults by then who went to live up north and so many did their best to erase any trace of black ancestry. This is where the hair trends begin of relaxing and straightening afro textured hair. The better you passed as white, the better life you had. It was a method of survival and still is.
To highlight the ridiculousness of all this, there was a famous court case that took place in NY in 1925. Where a woman was being divorced from this guy who came from a wealthy family. His family had been pressuring him to divorce her because she was mixed (white mom, mixed dad) The lawyers of the family created an annulment on the grounds that she intentionally misled him about her "racial identity" and passed as white. The all white jury examined her to assess how "mixed" she was. She did this intentionally to prove that her husband had to have known that she was mixed, it was impossible that she had deceived him. Long story short the judge ruled in her favor and the annulment was denied. The case was called Rhinelander v. Rhinelander if anyone is interested in looking it up.
This all goes back to the one drop rule. From wiki, "The one-drop rule is a social and legal principle of racial classification that was historically prominent in the United States in the 20th century. It asserted that any person with even one ancestor of black ancestry ("one drop" of black blood) is considered black (Negro or colored in historical terms)."
Further more, "This concept became codified into the law of some states in the early 20th century. It was associated with the principle of "invisible blackness" that developed after the long history of racial interaction in the South, which had included the hardening of slavery as a racial caste and later segregation."
Anyways this was a super long rant but I had to make it. The above is why a concept like "white privilege" exists, there's an inhumane standard in place that is systemic, that has not been eliminated from our society yet. And its not just here in the US, its all over the world to some degree or another. In India there's a massive market for skin lightening products and procedures because of how championed being white or light skin is vs being darker. People are desperate enough to do it because it can lead to better employment opportunities.
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Tantrika]
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What a childish statement
No, but calling all reasonable statements I make childish is rather childish in itself.
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you expressly acknowledge he brandished a weapon with intent to threaten and/or harm people
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and you try to do so in a manner that minimizes what happened
blocking somebody’s path of travel is not a right in this country. Nothings minimized, he nudged his way through people blocking his path, and as previously pointed out, if he wanted to run people over he sure could of, so that’s a lie to say he was trying. The man who shot him did so from the safety of the sidewalk. That’s attempted first degree murder. Shooting somebody for not submitting to your illegal protest is a rather childish move. One that will have extreme consequences.
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someone poked you with a knife you would scream bloody murder
Well Id probably kill them, I’m not a good candidate for this fictional situation.
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What a childish statement
No, but calling all reasonable statements I make childish is rather childish in itself.
When you start making reasonable statments rather than childish ones such a statement will bear some weight
meanwhile, your input will not be treated as a reliable source in this thread thanks for the news link tho, the video was enlightening
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Assembly of First Nations National Chief Perry Bellegarde called for a complete overhaul of the policing system in Canada Sunday, two days after a Metepenagiag First Nation man was shot and killed by New Brunswick RCMP.
"This pattern is too systemic, too much violence, too much people getting hurt and too much people ending up dead, and it doesn't have to be that way," Bellegarde said in an interview with CBC News Network.
Rodney Levi, 48, was visiting a church minister and looking for guidance the evening he was shot, Metepenagiag Chief Bill Ward has said.
RCMP spokesperson Jullie Rogers-Marsh said police responded to a call of a "unwanted man" around 7:40 p.m. Friday.
"When police arrived they were confronted by a man who was carrying knives," Rogers-Marsh said.
Rogers-Marsh said RCMP tried using a stun gun before shooting Levi.
"Why did this have to happen when a person had mental health issues?" Bellegarde said.
Levi's death comes eight days after Chantel Moore, 26, was shot by a police officer in Edmundston during a wellness check.
Healing walks were held in Moore's memory Saturday afternoon.
Quebec's independent police investigative agency, Bureau des enquêtes indépendantes, is looking into the deaths.
The same day Levi died, dashcam footage was released publicly as part of a court application to stay criminal charges against Athabasca Chipewyan First Nation Chief Allan Adam.
The footage from March shows Alberta RCMP jump-tackling the chief to the ground without warning, punching him in the head and putting him in a chokehold.
Bellegarde is pushing for community-based policing services as an option for First Nation communities. "At least that way you're not coming in with fear or malice toward our people."
There should be a zero-tolerance policy for excessive force and higher recruitment standards for officers to prevent those with racial biases from joining the force, Bellegarde said.
He also called for more civilian oversight and increased use of dashcams, as well as enhanced de-escalation and mental health training.
"All these things can be looked at," Bellegarde said.
"We've got to start going down that road sooner rather than later, either looking at revamping the whole system of policing or looking at putting proper policies and legislation in place so that this systemic violence ends toward First Nations people."
Across North America there's been a growing movement for police reform, sparked by the deaths of Black and Indigenous people at the hands of police.
"It's continually a pattern of our people either getting hurt or being killed at the hands of police," Bellegarde said.
"The police are there, they're sworn to protect and serve, not assault and kill."
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/afn-indigenous-police-violence-1.5611938
The New Brunswick shooting that prompted the statement
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Levi’s death is the second time a police officer has fatally shot an Indigenous person in New Brunswick in less than a month.
https://globalnews.ca/news/7065236/rodney-levi-new-brunswick-police-shooting/
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