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    #26742031 - 06/13/20 03:19 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

SO Ive been reading about "salt tek" to combat trich . I tried it and it works pretty well. I have a couple of questions tho,

1) Is it better to just douse the trich patch with salt or scoop it out with a sterilized spoon, then fill the crater with salt?

2)Once the salt is in there, can you get multiple flushes, or does the salt compromise the colonized substrate?

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Re: Salt and green mold [Re: GRIMSLEY] * 2
    #26742149 - 06/13/20 04:21 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

With trich, it's best to get it out of your house ASAP, preferably before it sporulates if possible. Trich starts out as bright white, almost crystalline looking patches.

Put the tub outside immediately, maybe you will be able to get some of a first flush but dump it after that and wash the tub out well with soap and water.

Cutting the mold patch out, pouring on salt ... these just spread mold spores and worse, fragmented mold mycelium all over the place. Really jeporadizing future grows.

If you are getting trich before or during your first flush, it is almost always in your spawn.

Are you inoculating your spawn with a clean culture on agar?


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Re: Salt and green mold [Re: mushpunx] * 2
    #26742184 - 06/13/20 04:35 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

ive tried the salt trich.
your best bet is to avoid trich thru better practices.


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Re: Salt and green mold [Re: mushpunx]
    #26742921 - 06/13/20 10:53 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I think i have trich really bad in my house. Like in the air vents or something.  Every single monotub I've had has had trich contamination. Some I got thru the first flush, some right out the gate. There is no sign of trich in my spawn (at least from what i can see) but when as soon as I put it into fruiting, it shows up and spreads quick.


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Re: Salt and green mold [Re: mushpunx]
    #26742927 - 06/13/20 10:55 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Liquid culture, via syringe


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Re: Salt and green mold [Re: mushpunx]
    #26742946 - 06/13/20 11:04 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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mushpunx said:
With trich, it's best to get it out of your house ASAP, preferably before it sporulates if possible. Trich starts out as bright white, almost crystalline looking patches.

Put the tub outside immediately, maybe you will be able to get some of a first flush but dump it after that and wash the tub out well with soap and water.

Cutting the mold patch out, pouring on salt ... these just spread mold spores and worse, fragmented mold mycelium all over the place. Really jeporadizing future grows.

If you are getting trich before or during your first flush, it is almost always in your spawn.

Are you inoculating your spawn with a clean culture on agar?





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Re: Salt and green mold [Re: mushpunx]
    #26742992 - 06/13/20 11:29 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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mushpunx said:
With trich, it's best to get it out of your house ASAP, preferably before it sporulates if possible. Trich starts out as bright white, almost crystalline looking patches.

Put the tub outside immediately, maybe you will be able to get some of a first flush but dump it after that and wash the tub out well with soap and water.

Cutting the mold patch out, pouring on salt ... these just spread mold spores and worse, fragmented mold mycelium all over the place. Really jeporadizing future grows.

If you are getting trich before or during your first flush, it is almost always in your spawn.

Are you inoculating your spawn with a clean culture on agar?



You say almost always the spawn, well what about when it's not the spawn? What else can it be?
I'm asking in all seriousness not being a smartass or anything like that.


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Re: Salt and green mold [Re: gizmo1]
    #26743208 - 06/14/20 02:17 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Most of use use coir now for our substrates when growing cubes.
It just needs to be heat treated, not pasteurized or sterilized and it is very unlikely to contaminate.

If you were to use a substrate like horse poo, or mix additives into the coir like coffee grounds, it needs to be properly pasteurized.

If you were using a substrate that needs to be properly pasteurized and you made a mistake during pasteurization, that could be a reason to cause contamination of the substrate.


It's almost always bad spawn when you get green mold before/during the first flush.
It can be either trich got into the spawn (it will hide very easy in the spawn because it's white, it turns green when it sporulates - when you fruit your tub And expose it to air you are essentially fruiting the mold as well.

The other thing could be bacterial spawn. This can be difficult to detect, it isn't always visible and it doesn't always have a smell.You can get flushes from bacterial substrates if they aren't too bad but the substrate will be more vulnerable to attack from competing molds.
Bacterial spawn will also reduce yield. Lots of cultivators don't even realize they are getting bacteria in their spawn.


This is why it is absolutely imperative to use a culture that has been started on agar and transfered until it is clean.
Spore prints are taken from fruits grown in open air and therefore are not completely sterile. Prints taken from indoor fruits are usually clean enough to make syringes for PF Tek, because BRF cake is pretty forgiving.
But spore syringes are not suitable for grains or LC. It can be done but you will run into contams eventually.

Improper sterile technique is the other main reason contaminants can enter your grain spawn. You need to be *absolutely* on point with sterile technique, + use proper hand motions while working with an SAB or Flow Hood


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Re: Salt and green mold [Re: mushpunx]
    #26743210 - 06/14/20 02:17 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Did you use agar to inoculate your grains?


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Re: Salt and green mold [Re: mushpunx]
    #26743218 - 06/14/20 02:26 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Inoculated rye grain w/out agar


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Re: Salt and green mold [Re: GRIMSLEY]
    #26743371 - 06/14/20 05:17 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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GRIMSLEY said:
Inoculated rye grain w/out agar




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