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OfflineDr.Ivan
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What do you do with leftover colonized jars?
    #26741965 - 06/13/20 02:42 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I have sometimes leftover jars, now 2 single ones with different varieties.
They have already begun to fruit. What do you typically do with these jars?
It kind of hurts to scrap them.:frown:


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Re: What do you do with leftover colonized jars? [Re: Dr.Ivan]
    #26741976 - 06/13/20 02:46 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

You could always put in the fridge before they fruit I think. I dont have leftover jars yet. Maybe some day although I doubt it


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Re: What do you do with leftover colonized jars? [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26741986 - 06/13/20 02:52 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Shoe box yo! Assuming you're talking about qt jars.

About 100g dry coir to a handful of vermiculite, unknown amount of water to field capacity.

I spawned 7 shoes boxes the other day and started with 700g coir and like 3 qt verm, 3.5 qts of water which was a little too much. Anyway that ended up being the perfect amount of bulk sub for my 7 qts, spawning at a ratio of 1:1.5 and using that extra .5 as a top layer.

This is a good read about shoe boxes - https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26009662


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Re: What do you do with leftover colonized jars? [Re: Dr.Ivan]
    #26741999 - 06/13/20 02:59 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

This is what I would do:
1) expand them into new jars - gtg,
2) spawn into a small tray/SB and fruit,
3) put in fridge (after consolidation) until you figure out what to do with them (one of the above or combine with other jars).

No jar is a waste! :mushdance:


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Re: What do you do with leftover colonized jars? [Re: Dr.Ivan]
    #26742015 - 06/13/20 03:07 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

You could even just top-fruit them if you had to. Just pop a sandwich bag over the top- maybe cut a couple little holes in it if needed


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Re: What do you do with leftover colonized jars? [Re: Apples in Mono]
    #26742064 - 06/13/20 03:33 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Find a cool container and do a novelty grow. I have a couple of rad glass terrariums that I usually save a little bit of spawn for.


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Re: What do you do with leftover colonized jars? [Re: The Fresh Prints]
    #26742092 - 06/13/20 03:43 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I just read today that grains by themselves fruit very badly. I would just shoebox them too.


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Re: What do you do with leftover colonized jars? [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26742128 - 06/13/20 04:03 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

It produces a whole lot more fruit than scrapping it does


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Re: What do you do with leftover colonized jars? [Re: Apples in Mono]
    #26742145 - 06/13/20 04:20 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Leftover jars are like leftover crack.

“Man everybody knows ain’t no such thing as leftover crack!”

Now I’m gonna have to listen to them.

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Re: What do you do with leftover colonized jars? [Re: Apples in Mono]
    #26742151 - 06/13/20 04:23 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

leftover colonized jars.

i never realized that was a thing till just now.
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Re: What do you do with leftover colonized jars? [Re: panne cyanne]
    #26746233 - 06/15/20 10:55 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Ha, you guys are great. I always found it a pain in the ass to do grain to grain inoculation, since it was hard to break up the mycelium in the jar by shaking. Then trying to get it out of the jar in a sterile fashion proved difficult. Most of my g2g jars ended up contaminated.
I'll give it a try still.


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Re: What do you do with leftover colonized jars? [Re: Dr.Ivan]
    #26746313 - 06/15/20 11:16 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Well it’s not Shaking the jar so much as Beating it against the palm of your hand  I’ve heard people use tires to bang it against too. Phone book. I like my hand though, never really hard just small repeated shocks.

When you’re spawning it’s ok to let some of the broken up grain out then put the lid back on and beat the rest loose if the jar is too full. I guess you could do the same with g2g if you had to.

When you do g2g just make sure both lids are loose (master and receiver) then, holding master jar with left hand I take the lid off with my right and then with the same hand I take the lid off the receiver and spill a little grain in then I keep the master kinda tilted as I get the lid somewhat settled on the receiver. Then lid on the master and turn a little, then fully close the receiver. Repeat with the next receiver. I keep the lids separated in my right hand so that the inside of the master lid isn’t touching top side of the receiver lid.

It helps to have a sufficiently tall SAB or else :facepalm:


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Re: What do you do with leftover colonized jars? [Re: Dr.Ivan]
    #26746321 - 06/15/20 11:19 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

You can g2g a little before full colonization to make it easier to break up the grain.

I’ve had a couple times where I’d go to pour the grain to another jar and a big chunk came out and clogged the receiving jar and grain went all over lol.


It takes a little trial and error but you’ll get it. My first couple g2g weren’t great either.

I’m way more careful and clean up everything before doing it, but for plates I don’t really take any precautions anymore.

Usually I unscrew the receiving jars and pop the lid loose but leave it on, do the same with the colonized jar, then let the air settle for a minute before actually pouring it. And don’t bump the sab!


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Re: What do you do with leftover colonized jars? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26746340 - 06/15/20 11:26 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Wait... no on uses a spoon? I haven't done G2G but I imagined everyone using a spoon that is flame sterilized, opening the jar quickly scooping some grains with spoon and then into the next jar. Boom finished.


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Re: What do you do with leftover colonized jars? [Re: redhandmat]
    #26746357 - 06/15/20 11:32 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

In a super short SAB that’d be perfect but it’s just faster to shake the jar up if you’re doing a bunch.

Especially once the jar gets lower and you gotta dig the spoon in there. Plus it’s another thing to hold.

I’ve done it a couple times though.


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Re: What do you do with leftover colonized jars? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26746370 - 06/15/20 11:37 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

If a cube jar is a be-otch to break up as, in you have to beat it like it owes ya money; then it is most likely bacterial and I personally wouldn't recommend G2G.

If it's healthy yeah G2G.

Like said above be creative, top fruit by throwing some coir on top then a baggie(great for bacterial jars because they get less exposure to the flying spores in the air from not mixing in sub and ya get some fruits rather than instant :gumby:), and like said above do some novelty grows, experiment. Walking off the path is the best way for new discovery's, just don/t get lost on it. :awesomenod:

I personally cry when I loose coir to sneaky contams over grains mainly because coirs a bit more spendy for me. I often just top fruit or throw out to save on the time and heartache. :sad:

Novelty

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Re: What do you do with leftover colonized jars? [Re: Dr.Ivan]
    #26746401 - 06/15/20 11:53 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I noc up new dishes with leftover colonized grain..(oats)

If the grain appears to look free of contaminates They work great.

A Flamed tweezers are a fast way to go..


A colonize oat grain.



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Re: What do you do with leftover colonized jars? [Re: micelio]
    #26746419 - 06/15/20 11:57 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I noc up new dishes with leftover colonized grain..(oats)

If the grain appears to look free of contaminates They work great.

A Flamed tweezers are a fast way to go..


A colonize oat grain.





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Re: What do you do with leftover colonized jars? [Re: redhandmat]
    #26746703 - 06/15/20 02:14 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Wait... no on uses a spoon? I haven't done G2G but I imagined everyone using a spoon that is flame sterilized, opening the jar quickly scooping some grains with spoon and then into the next jar. Boom finished.




I do! Spray the spoon with ISO and flame works every time for me. Contam free. With gloves on and in a SAB of course.


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Re: What do you do with leftover colonized jars? [Re: Maylink]
    #26746776 - 06/15/20 02:53 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Wait... no on uses a spoon? I haven't done G2G but I imagined everyone using a spoon that is flame sterilized, opening the jar quickly scooping some grains with spoon and then into the next jar. Boom finished.




I do! Spray the spoon with ISO and flame works every time for me. Contam free. With gloves on and in a SAB of course.




When spawning right?  Not g2g?  I don't see that turning out well.


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Re: What do you do with leftover colonized jars? [Re: Anastomosis]
    #26747947 - 06/15/20 11:20 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Nope, GTG was what the previous poster was referring to. And it turns out well every time.


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Re: What do you do with leftover colonized jars? [Re: Maylink]
    #26748008 - 06/16/20 12:26 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Nope, GTG was what the previous poster was referring to. And it turns out well every time.



Not being a dick, but there's no way. I work in front of a hood with almost 2 decades of experience. If I don't follow the rules, I'll get contams.
I just looked at a few of your posts...

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26403870
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26561595

Please don't advise people to use a spoon to g2g. It doesn't work out every time..or any time for that matter.


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Re: What do you do with leftover colonized jars? [Re: redhandmat]
    #26748091 - 06/16/20 02:12 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Wait... no on uses a spoon? I haven't done G2G but I imagined everyone using a spoon that is flame sterilized, opening the jar quickly scooping some grains with spoon and then into the next jar. Boom finished.



that's what I do


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Re: What do you do with leftover colonized jars? [Re: AtmozFear]
    #26748098 - 06/16/20 02:23 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I wasn't aware of anyone doing this. I don't get it. How far up the spoon are you sterilizing? Doesn't the handle get hot af? And what about the actual spoon part- how are you cooling it before scooping the spawn? Or are you? The logistics aren't adding up for me


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Re: What do you do with leftover colonized jars? [Re: Apples in Mono]
    #26748280 - 06/16/20 05:27 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I wasn't aware of anyone doing this. I don't get it. How far up the spoon are you sterilizing? Doesn't the handle get hot af? And what about the actual spoon part- how are you cooling it before scooping the spawn? Or are you? The logistics aren't adding up for me




No idea, was asking questions :tongue:


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Re: What do you do with leftover colonized jars? [Re: Apples in Mono]
    #26748699 - 06/16/20 10:43 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I wasn't aware of anyone doing this. I don't get it. How far up the spoon are you sterilizing? Doesn't the handle get hot af? And what about the actual spoon part- how are you cooling it before scooping the spawn? Or are you? The logistics aren't adding up for me




Don't do it. Your results will be far from stellar. Do it the proper way.


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Re: What do you do with leftover colonized jars? [Re: Apples in Mono]
    #26748725 - 06/16/20 11:02 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I wasn't aware of anyone doing this. I don't get it. How far up the spoon are you sterilizing? Doesn't the handle get hot af? And what about the actual spoon part- how are you cooling it before scooping the spawn? Or are you? The logistics aren't adding up for me




I sterilize the whole spoon part very thoroughly... no, the handle does not get hot at all.  I understand your confusion.  I do this when I do BRF to BRF transfers because you can turn the jar sideways without anything falling out (like they would with groats) and scoop it like ice cream.  For groats I would not do this.  I just did transfers into 18 new jars the other day this way in a SAB... so far, nothing but mycellium, zero contamination... I'll post pics further down the road.

btw I realize BRF to BRF transfers are unconventional.


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Re: What do you do with leftover colonized jars? [Re: AtmozFear]
    #26748880 - 06/16/20 12:36 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Like someone said, shoebox. If that’s still too big to get a reasonable substrate depth/spawn ratio for the amount of grain you have, combine your grain jars if they’re both cubes. Or, find a vessel that’s even smaller than a shoebox and set it inside your shoebox/mono.

What I did with jars I was about to throw away

If you dont wanna spawn them, at least return them to the earth rather than a dumpster, regardless if your location supports their growth...


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Re: What do you do with leftover colonized jars? [Re: Anastomosis]
    #26749110 - 06/16/20 02:03 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Nope, GTG was what the previous poster was referring to. And it turns out well every time.



Not being a dick, but there's no way. I work in front of a hood with almost 2 decades of experience. If I don't follow the rules, I'll get contams.
I just looked at a few of your posts...

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26403870
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26561595

Please don't advise people to use a spoon to g2g. It doesn't work out every time..or any time for that matter.





Please don't post to be rude. Someone was just asking if anyone does it. And I do. And apparently so does someone else. It works for me. Maybe not everyone.

Contamination can happen from lots of different reasons which I have learned about as well. Posting questions I've had on previous jars does nothing to help the thread, nor does it have any relevance to why contamination may have happened. Also, if you actually read those posts, you can see that those didn't happen because of the GTG transfer.


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Re: What do you do with leftover colonized jars? [Re: Maylink]
    #26749137 - 06/16/20 02:12 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

appreciate it Maylink... i will update in a couple days with pics


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Re: What do you do with leftover colonized jars? [Re: AtmozFear]
    #26749157 - 06/16/20 02:17 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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appreciate it Maylink




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