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Is this bag done and ready to fruit...?
    #26741623 - 06/13/20 11:23 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

The top wont grow any mycelium. There are "chunks" of hard parts, but some small crumbly pieces.

Most of it is covered, but the top just wont finish, and its not fully rock solid on the top, but a lot of it is. Theres just some extra "bits" of grain that are "clumped" and feel like hard bits, some hust regular grain that are loose. But overall it feels rather hard.

Should i open it, get rid of the loose bits and try to fruit? Its been a 3 or 4 months, i have slow growing spores. Its starting to look rather dry inside.

Think its ready? I read somewhere it doesn't have to look all white to be "done"

And im not seeing any funky colours or contams.


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Re: Is this bag done and ready to fruit...? [Re: JoeyFatone]
    #26741653 - 06/13/20 11:44 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

3-4 months jesus man. but u can try to spawn them and see how they colonize the bulk but i wouldnt expect anything out of those they look bad but i have def seen worse so its up to u. personally id toss them in the trash. and whip up a batch of agar and some new grains and use the agar to inoculate with. that way u know u have a clean culture to start with. spores to grain is a crapshoot anyway. ya it can work but its more of a gamble and its prolly about a 50/50 shot at best. also spores are not like seeds so they are not just slow growing. something was wrong from the start. so id start over and use the time to study proper teks on here and find 1 u like and follow it to the letter. if u do that you will have much better results. but hey atleast u got the patience part of the hobby down thats for sure lol๐Ÿ˜ƒ

they look bacterial also


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Re: Is this bag done and ready to fruit...? [Re: jcm4620]
    #26741663 - 06/13/20 11:49 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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3-4 months jesus man. but u can try to spawn them and see how they colonize the bulk but i wouldnt expect anything out of those they look bad but i have def seen worse so its up to u. personally id toss them in the trash. and whip up a batch of agar and some new grains and use the agar to inoculate with. that way u know u have a clean culture to start with. spores to grain is a crapshoot anyway. ya it can work but its more of a gamble and its prolly about a 50/50 shot at best. also spores are not like seeds so they are not just slow growing. something was wrong from the start. so id start over and use the time to study proper teks on here and find 1 u like and follow it to the letter. if u do that you will have much better results. but hey atleast u got the patience part of the hobby down thats for sure lol๐Ÿ˜ƒ

they look bacterial also




I know some can certainly take longer to colonize, based on strain among other factors. The cakes I had took a long time to grow too. About the same time frame. But question; what looks bacterial about it? Im not seeing any discolouration or anything


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Re: Is this bag done and ready to fruit...? [Re: JoeyFatone]
    #26741698 - 06/13/20 12:11 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Came out hard as a brick and looks perfect  once the little extra crumbles came off. Smells mushroom-y, not sweet at all! Im optimistic! Just shoved it in that fruiting chamber. How long do i fan/mist for?


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Re: Is this bag done and ready to fruit...? [Re: JoeyFatone]
    #26741712 - 06/13/20 12:26 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

An update

Edit: trying to put a jpg there, and the sites saying i cant. Smh.


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Re: Is this bag done and ready to fruit...? [Re: JoeyFatone]
    #26741715 - 06/13/20 12:28 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Okay so i couldnt edit the post, i can only put a new one; so sorry for the double post



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Re: Is this bag done and ready to fruit...? [Re: JoeyFatone]
    #26741727 - 06/13/20 12:33 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

lol no offense man but  i think u gtta lot more reading you need to do. u need to spawn that to a bulk substrate. all  u have is just grain spawn. if u want to try to fruit just that look up a cased grains tek but dont think that just cuz u put it in a tray its a casing like some ppl tend to do. a casing is a non nutritious top layer. and it looks bacterial cuz it looks wet and like its been covered in metabolite and parts of it were not colonized after that long ass amount of time. and cakes shouldnt take that long either so there was def somethkng wrong there also. just cuz its a lil bacterial dont mean it wont fruit. i have spawned and fruited many bacterial jars. but their potential is not lived up to usually. you may get retarded mutants even lol ive had all kinds of wierd shit happen. and ive also had decent grows out of a bacterial spawn. as long as its not a metabolite gusher or a slimy gooey runny mess u will most likely get at least some fruits from it. those r pretty terrible pics man. to me they have a slight looking yellowish tinge to them and some of the grains r wet looking and not colonized. those are tell tale signs of a bacterial contamination. just do some reading and iif u think they r ok then spawn them to a bulk sub and see what happens ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿผ but id still start over and go the safe way with agar. and do shoe boxes or monotubs.


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Re: Is this bag done and ready to fruit...? [Re: jcm4620]
    #26741738 - 06/13/20 12:39 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

lol ya u def need to do some reading man. use the search bar in the upper right corner and search shoe box teks. also any of bods teks are good to use too. bod has great write ups with lots of details.


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Re: Is this bag done and ready to fruit...? [Re: jcm4620]
    #26741742 - 06/13/20 12:41 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I was following freshcultivaters guide. This is fine, and dunking isnt necessary with this. Youre bringing in irrelvent factors that arent really neccasry and you are being kind of condescending about it. Ive followed the guide that ive been following, and ive seen successes from it as well.  I dont think i need more reading, aside from a confirmation as to whether that is ready or not. And seeing it outside of its package, it definitely is. So no, im good. Thanks.


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Re: Is this bag done and ready to fruit...? [Re: JoeyFatone]
    #26741747 - 06/13/20 12:43 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: Is this bag done and ready to fruit...? [Re: JoeyFatone]
    #26741751 - 06/13/20 12:45 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Also the grains arent wet at all, nor is there a yellowish colour. Thats the colour of the grain


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Re: Is this bag done and ready to fruit...? [Re: JoeyFatone]
    #26741760 - 06/13/20 12:49 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I was following freshcultivaters guide. This is fine, and dunking isnt necessary with this. Youre bringing in irrelvent factors that arent really neccasry and you are being kind of condescending about it. Ive followed the guide that ive been following, and ive seen successes from it as well.  I dont think i need more reading, aside from a confirmation as to whether that is ready or not. And seeing it outside of its package, it definitely is. So no, im good. Thanks.





all do respect im not the one with some janky ass shit grain brick tryin to fruit it like a brf cake on a retarded looking laid down sheet of tin foil in a tote. i was trying to help u man even went and got u the link to all of bods shit. so take ur retarded cake and your attitude and go back over to redit with the rest of the mistfits then๐Ÿ–•๐Ÿ–•


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Re: Is this bag done and ready to fruit...? [Re: jcm4620]
    #26741765 - 06/13/20 12:52 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I honestly think you just dont know what youre talking about but cool. And youre making a lot of assumptions. So i appreciate the advice, not so much the tone. I dont think theres much left to discuss between you and I. So Thanks for the advice, but you should try and change the tone. And youre right. Maybe my camera sucks. So. Ill leave it at that. Thanks.


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Re: Is this bag done and ready to fruit...? [Re: JoeyFatone]
    #26741772 - 06/13/20 12:55 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

No offense man but just by asking the questions you're asking it shows you could do with a lot more reading. I've been growing off and on for a long time and i'm still reading about stuff constantly.

Most information out there is outdated or elementary. The shroomery is like the army for mush cult, and there's a special forces division as well. Those are the teks and the methodology that you want to become familiar with.

There are many many ways to get cubes to grow indoors, but theres a pretty standard set of basics to be truly successful and efficient.

E: jcm link isn't working but i think this is what he was posting: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24144021ย  there's a lot of good stuff there. Spores to agar to grain to a coir based sub will get you mushrooms for years.

Edit again lol, the link I posted is doing the same thing as JCMs. Don't know why.


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    #26741781 - 06/13/20 01:00 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

ya blame the camera lol cuz just like the grow it couldnt possibly be the operator. whats ur address il send ya a clue along with a box of tampons and a box of coco and if u need me as a reference to get an emotional support animal il be glad to help there also. suck it up buttercup my god all these touchy soy boys these days.  nobody was being mean to u man my lord.

but i guess i dont know wtf im talking about. plus if ur so sure then why the hell u askin is in the firstplace. ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿผ


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Re: Is this bag done and ready to fruit...? [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26741782 - 06/13/20 01:00 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Absolutely. And i believe ive followed them. This isnt my first grow; in the meantime ive grown some from brf. Not the most advanced stuff, but yeah. This "big" thing, and with grain, is just new territory for me. Ive been following a specidic guide for this, and have looked at many others for grow bags, specifically. I even ran it by the guys at freshcultivators, who have had many with successful grows using this method, and theyve said it looks great. They responded after I posted my update in the chamber, here. Theyve got a good track record with those who use them, so im inclined to thing Im doing right here. Not to mention, the individual above mentioned the yellow looks like bacteria, and its really wet. Both things couldnt be further from the truth. It was pretty dry, comparatively, and no, they yellow is the grain. Afaik from what ive researched, from experience, and from the guys who specialize with this, it looks fine. Of course ill keep this updated, but theres nothing wrong with this at this time.

Edit; also, to the other guy who cannot spell to save his life, grow the fuck up guy. Seriously. Now youre just being a prick. Fuck off of youre going to be like that. I thought i ended that conversation on amicable terms, given the situation, told you what I thought, mentioned I appreciated what advice youve given, and now youre acting like youre 12. Grow up. I dont need any more input from you, child.


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Re: Is this bag done and ready to fruit...? [Re: jcm4620]
    #26741792 - 06/13/20 01:02 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

thanks rog yes that was what i was trying to give him.๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ good looking out brother


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Re: Is this bag done and ready to fruit...? [Re: JoeyFatone]
    #26741807 - 06/13/20 01:09 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Oh dude i just looked up the "freshcultivators" They're people that sell grow kits...did you happen to buy this thing from them? That they say "looks great"

I'm not here to start in on arguing I just love seeing people grow tons of mushrooms and since i can grow tons easily (after reading a lot and truly understanding what's going on) I want to help other people to do the same. I think that's the attitude a lot of people here have and it can come out a little "eh" sometimes because we've seen so many of these same poor grows off bad info. It's not an attack on you though.

Roll with what you got but if that's just pure grain you will not get much out of it. The grain provides the nutrition but you need bulk substrate to provide the water and surface area for a real flush.


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Re: Is this bag done and ready to fruit...? [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26741808 - 06/13/20 01:11 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Ive seen reviews and have friends who bought from them - i was suggested by a friend who had numerous grows from them. Theyre a small niche group who sells the bags, but by no means do they not know what theyre talking about. They grow things themselves. Its not like this isnt untested. Not to mention numerous people have had successful grows from them. I dont see how what youre saying invalidates any of what theyve shown and/or stated.

Also, its not pure grain. But thanks man. Im gonna keep you updated. Im optimistic!

But yeah, thanks so much for your help! I appreciate you!


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Re: Is this bag done and ready to fruit...? [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26741812 - 06/13/20 01:13 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

And a non nutrious surface to trigger fruit formation. Op your grains are going to dry out before you get proper surface evaporation. It's better to get some kind of bulk substrate on it. Roger knows his shit imo.


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