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Unusual P.subaeruginosa black/green ID 4
#26741080 - 06/13/20 05:18 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I recently found these greenish/black capped specimens and decided to take them home to clone. I then started to second guess if they're indeed a dark variety of P.subaeruginosa or something different. The color of the caps is like that of P.papuana I find in NSW but the morphology is reminiscent of P.subaeruginosa. The gills appear greyish as opposed to the light brown/chocolate color in other subs. Would be great to have some input from myco minds.
     
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Re: Unusual P.subaeruginosa black/green ID [Re: bobwastaken] 2
#26741087 - 06/13/20 05:31 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Psilocybe tasmaniana?
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Re: Unusual P.subaeruginosa black/green ID [Re: Psilosadhu] 1
#26741095 - 06/13/20 05:43 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I hadn't considered P.tasmaniana but that's a possibility. They were found in a pine plantation fruiting from soil/decayed pine.
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Re: Unusual P.subaeruginosa black/green ID [Re: Psilosadhu]
#26741277 - 06/13/20 08:04 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Psilosadhu said: Psilocybe tasmaniana?
Im unfamiliar with the species but i think tasmaniana always have striated margins.
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Re: Unusual P.subaeruginosa black/green ID [Re: OOISI] 1
#26741368 - 06/13/20 08:45 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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OOISI said:
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Psilosadhu said: Psilocybe tasmaniana?
Im unfamiliar with the species but i think tasmaniana always have striated margins.
Not the pins. There's only a gill shot of the mature one, but I think I see striations there. Not by any means an expert on the species myself, hence the question mark
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Re: Unusual P.subaeruginosa black/green ID [Re: Psilosadhu] 2
#26742019 - 06/13/20 03:10 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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This is almost certainly P. tasmaniana
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Re: Unusual P.subaeruginosa black/green ID [Re: bobwastaken] 1
#26742032 - 06/13/20 03:19 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sweet find Bob!
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Re: Unusual P.subaeruginosa black/green ID [Re: Nickoloxious] 2
#26742352 - 06/13/20 06:01 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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@OOISI Good point on the striated margins. It jogs my memory. There was a cluster of 5 specimens nearby with plane caps and striated caps nearby. I thought they were robust P.alutacea as this species was also found growing in among the subs here.
@Psilosadhu You're right the cap margin of the mature specimen does have striations
@Inski! Thanks for the ID! Your input is always means a lot. I'll make a day of tracking them down again and acquire some decent pictures growing in situ.
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Re: Unusual P.subaeruginosa black/green ID [Re: bobwastaken]
#26742534 - 06/13/20 07:27 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Good call Psilosadhu!
Very awesome news indeed! Its good to see hard work pay off!
I definitely would have put these in the subaeruginosa basket.
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Re: Unusual P.subaeruginosa black/green ID [Re: OOISI]
#26742589 - 06/13/20 07:54 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Congrats Bob. Put in the time make them finds.
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Re: Unusual P.subaeruginosa black/green ID [Re: pineninja]
#26745451 - 06/15/20 02:56 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah bro these are Psilocybe tasmaniana for sure!
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Re: Unusual P.subaeruginosa black/green ID [Re: RogerTheRetard]
#26745456 - 06/15/20 03:04 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I found a photo in my gallery which resembles these to me.

Mine are just subs, but i would like to know what gives these ones away as tasmaniana.
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Re: Unusual P.subaeruginosa black/green ID [Re: bobwastaken] 1
#26746970 - 06/15/20 04:12 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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bobwastaken said:

This image confirms to me, someone with experience finding this species I must add, that these are indeed Psilocybe tasmaniana.
The giveaway is the blue staining around the margin. And the purple gills.
That cap is a very stereotypical looking Psilocybe tasmaniana cap. I'll add that the top of the cap is always a bit sticky. That is another giveaway.
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Re: Unusual P.subaeruginosa black/green ID [Re: RogerTheRetard]
#26748054 - 06/16/20 01:29 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nice one Bob!
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Re: Unusual P.subaeruginosa black/green ID [Re: Bagels]
#27310521 - 05/15/21 10:57 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Some photo's of a find I made back in 2012. I'm not sure if this is P.tasmaniana or P.subaeruginosa but they do strike a close resemblance to the recent finds made by Nickoloxious. Any input welcome.

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Re: Unusual P.subaeruginosa black/green ID [Re: bobwastaken]
#27310605 - 05/16/21 01:06 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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^^ Those two images above are just subs bob... Not tasmaniana... ^^
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Re: Unusual P.subaeruginosa black/green ID [Re: RogerTheRetard]
#27310606 - 05/16/21 01:11 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Roger that
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Re: Unusual P.subaeruginosa black/green ID [Re: bobwastaken]
#27310619 - 05/16/21 01:43 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Picked some today along with typical subs to compare... Generally they had darker brown caps (when wet) & darker gills off the bat when compared to the creamy colour on subs. This is harder to compare on older specimens. But P.tasmaniana tended to develop an almost burgundy hue to the gills, though this to me is only vaguely distinguishable. To elaborate on what Roger said by the caps being sticky, is that when moist. Almost every one of the P.tasmaniana had a very easily separable gelatinous pellicle. To the point you can see it when breaking the cap in pieces. This is not easily achievable with subs. Where if you manage to peel some it usually tears some of the caps skin off with it.
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Re: Unusual P.subaeruginosa black/green ID [Re: Nickoloxious]
#27335990 - 06/05/21 05:56 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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was out picking today in my usual spot and I am now fairly certain I have mistaken an unknown species for subaeruginosa(couldn't find I.D thread sorry... If someone can link?) Can anyone confirm what species this is if not a phenotype, very similar feature.


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SergeantCuntstable said: was out picking today in my usual spot and I am now fairly certain I have mistaken an unknown species for subaeruginosa(couldn't find I.D thread sorry... If someone can link?) Can anyone confirm what species this is if not a phenotype, very similar feature.



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