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NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag, Southern States Follow Suit
    #26740413 - 06/12/20 07:48 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Pretty surprising considering NASCAR's fan base: https://www.statesman.com/sports/20200612/golden-did-nascar-really-just-ban-confederate-flag-thats-progress

A little history about the Confederate Flag: https://www.nationalreview.com/2015/06/confederate-flag-democrats/

Mississippi retires the Confederate Flag: https://time.com/5862506/mississippi-retires-state-flag-confederate/

How do you feel about the ban? About time? Should NASCAR ban the racist flag? Or does it infringe on the 1st Amendment?


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Re: NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 2
    #26740461 - 06/12/20 08:02 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

They must have thought allowing  racist bitches to show off their racist  participation  treason trophy would cause their ticket sales to drop . Good for them,  they shouldn’t let the deplorable basket of worthless assholes ruin what they have worked so hard for with their crazy horseshit . Fuck maga .


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Re: NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag [Re: Psilynut2] * 2
    #26740492 - 06/12/20 08:13 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

There’s no really way to enforce it, but its a nice gesture.


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Re: NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag [Re: christopera]
    #26740565 - 06/12/20 08:39 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Kinda funny though I think there has only been like 1 black driver in the history of the sport .
He sucked too .
    NASCAR is really boring to watch , but I imagine it would be  the second coolest thing I could possibly do with a machine on wheels  . Just 1 step below dirt bike sidecar racing .


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Re: NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag [Re: Psilynut2]
    #26741016 - 06/13/20 03:25 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Thankfully all I think of when I see that flag is a 440 Charger with the door handles welded shut.


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Re: NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag [Re: christopera]
    #26741091 - 06/13/20 05:34 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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christopera said:
There’s no really way to enforce it, but its a nice gesture.




They encouraged fans to not display the confederate flag a couple years ago, but stopped short of a ban. Now they have banned it, and it sounds to me like they have every intention of enforcing it.


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Re: NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag [Re: Psilynut2]
    #26741141 - 06/13/20 06:28 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Kinda funny though I think there has only been like 1 black driver in the history of the sport .
He sucked too .
    NASCAR is really boring to watch , but I imagine it would be  the second coolest thing I could possibly do with a machine on wheels  . Just 1 step below dirt bike sidecar racing .




Maybe you're thinking of Willy T. Ribs? He was a great road racer and did well in Trans Am as well as other series. Just about any Formula car mid level and up or proper Prototype would blow the wheels of any stock car. Driving ovals is also pretty boring, i've done it a number of times. Though there is a certain art to racing them well.


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Re: NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26741152 - 06/13/20 06:33 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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There’s no really way to enforce it, but its a nice gesture.




They encouraged fans to not display the confederate flag a couple years ago, but stopped short of a ban. Now they have banned it, and it sounds to me like they have every intention of enforcing it.




I'm not sure if you have ever been to a race, NASCAR or otherwise, but lots of things are banned. Fireworks, open fires, laser pointers, drones, all sort of shit. The security is generally pretty understaffed so it all happens anyways. NASCAR owns a lot of the facilities they race at, so they may be more effective at it then other series, but I'm willing to bet it will be a shit show.


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Re: NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag [Re: christopera]
    #26741169 - 06/13/20 06:48 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

How can you ban the Confederate Flag when you're about races in the South? :grin:

Good riddance :smile:

Imagine Bayern, Germany had a racing sport where they still flew the swastika flag.


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Re: NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag [Re: Asante]
    #26741209 - 06/13/20 07:21 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I'm all for banning the confederate flag at just about everything. Don't get me wrong. I just think that NASCAR is going to have a very hard time enforcing it. If you've ever been to a touring car race or a Formula 1 race you are bound to see some absolutely crazy shit in the camp grounds.


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Re: NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag [Re: christopera]
    #26741289 - 06/13/20 08:09 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Maybe you're thinking of Willy T. Ribs He was a great road racer and did well in Trans Am as well as other series. Just about any Formula car mid level and up or proper Prototype would blow the wheels of any stock car. Driving ovals is also pretty boring



 
    I’m not sure  , I didn’t know this they have a black driver now named Bubba  Wallace and he is going to drive a black lives matter car , and that’s pretty much the reason .
  I know open wheel cars are faster , just thought driving with that many people and bumping them would be a riot . I don’t see how it can be enforced either , last race I went to was a circus .


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Re: NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag [Re: christopera]
    #26741345 - 06/13/20 08:36 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Kinda funny though I think there has only been like 1 black driver in the history of the sport .
He sucked too .
    NASCAR is really boring to watch , but I imagine it would be  the second coolest thing I could possibly do with a machine on wheels  . Just 1 step below dirt bike sidecar racing .




Maybe you're thinking of Willy T. Ribs? He was a great road racer and did well in Trans Am as well as other series. Just about any Formula car mid level and up or proper Prototype would blow the wheels of any stock car. Driving ovals is also pretty boring, i've done it a number of times. Though there is a certain art to racing them well.




I agree that Formula is a much more advanced type of racing. But they still come over to NASCAR from CART or Formula, because that's where the popularity and the money is, in the U.S.

I don't know a lot about racing, but I respect Formula, because it appears to be so dangerous, going so fast then slowing down so much for sharp corners. A lot different than NASCAR at the superspeedways just keeping it floored the whole time and turning left.


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Re: NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag [Re: christopera]
    #26741388 - 06/13/20 08:55 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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christopera said:
There’s no really way to enforce it, but its a nice gesture.




They encouraged fans to not display the confederate flag a couple years ago, but stopped short of a ban. Now they have banned it, and it sounds to me like they have every intention of enforcing it.




I'm not sure if you have ever been to a race, NASCAR or otherwise, but lots of things are banned. Fireworks, open fires, laser pointers, drones, all sort of shit. The security is generally pretty understaffed so it all happens anyways. NASCAR owns a lot of the facilities they race at, so they may be more effective at it then other series, but I'm willing to bet it will be a shit show.




Yeah, they're not going to be able to enforce it, not gonna happen. In fact, I expect to see many of the fans to now go out of their way to display it just out of spite.


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Re: NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag [Re: qman] * 1
    #26741399 - 06/13/20 09:00 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I wonder if we'll see an executive order from Trump stating that NASCAR is now a public forum and can't censor people.  Oh wait...no.  He only abuses his position to help himself.  He isn't a NASCAR fan, so why would he give a shit?


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Re: NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag [Re: qman]
    #26741410 - 06/13/20 09:08 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Yeah, they're not going to be able to enforce it, not gonna happen. In fact, I expect to see many of the fans to now go out of their way to display it just out of spite.




It will play well in the mainstream fake news media though .
  That’s really important and probably more important than ticket sales considering they have a massive revenue stream coming from the sale of tv rights .  They also make money from sanctioning fees and sponsorships .
  Teams receive a percentage of the money from tv rights .
  It’s not hard to see why they did this .
  They have to appeal to mainstream America to survive .


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Re: NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #26742502 - 06/13/20 07:13 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I wonder if we'll see an executive order from Trump stating that NASCAR is now a public forum and can't censor people.  Oh wait...no.  He only abuses his position to help himself.  He isn't a NASCAR fan, so why would he give a shit?





He'll probably pretend to like NASCAR, to attract a demographic likely to favor him. Like he pretends to be Christian.


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Re: NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26752498 - 06/17/20 06:48 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I don't see how it's racist. I mean lots of countries have had slavery and yet it didn't magically make their flags racist for all time.:shrug:


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Re: NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag [Re: Kizzle]
    #26752582 - 06/17/20 07:13 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Nothing magic about it. The confederacy existed solely to protect the institution of slavery.


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Re: NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag [Re: Enlil]
    #26752729 - 06/17/20 08:25 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

We should see if people would be willing to fly the Saudi Arabia flag at races. I'm sure NASCAR has no issues there.


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Re: NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #26753337 - 06/18/20 04:09 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Nothing magic about it. The confederacy existed solely to protect the institution of slavery.



And that's the flag's fault? You really think all the people that fly it are doing it out of some kind of secret love of slavery and not the reasons they will tell you?


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