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Re: NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#26798216 - 07/02/20 01:06 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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There is a lot of General Lee fans.
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Re: NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag [Re: pineninja] 3
#26798226 - 07/02/20 01:10 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ha, nice. Havent raced in awhile. Met a lady-friend on Overwatch (video game) and we are basically have e-dates every weekend. Its pretty great.
Still miss racing with you and your friends even thou i end last place everytime Someday I'll be back on...
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Re: NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#26798803 - 07/02/20 08:25 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Which racing game were you guys playing? I know Forza 7 was mentioned but I've fallen so behind in console based games I don't have any clue what is current. I haven't owned a console since XBOX, the first one. Is Forza cross platform with PC these days? I'd race with some shroomers, I love racing games!
Logic, you are always raking in the ladies!
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Re: NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag [Re: christopera] 1
#26798864 - 07/02/20 08:58 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I really like go karts . I want a shifter kart but don’t have time due to having a 2 year old . Maybe in a few years though . I was going to take my 911 on a canyon run with my neighbor and his Lotus this weekend but he crashed it at laguna seca 2 weekends ago . He spent 30k on it and only had it 3 months , he seems to think it was worth it though .
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Re: NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag [Re: Psilynut2] 2
#26798930 - 07/02/20 09:46 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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"NASCAR driver Corey LaJoie will be racing in a "Trump 2020" car in the Brickyard 400 this weekend, as well as eight more races this season, as part of a partnership between Go Fas Racing, the team he races for, and the Patriots of America PAC..." https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/505620-nascar-driver-corey-lajoie-driving-in-trump-2020-car-as-part-of

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Re: NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag [Re: Psilynut2] 4
#26799568 - 07/02/20 02:42 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Im a gearhead, too. My dad had a 2000ish Lotus, talk about a hypersonic go cart. 0 to 60 in 4. Im the opposite, I have big box cars from the 70s and 80s (including a Colony Park station wagon all Griswold). My favorite engine is my 460.
Edit. Proof I am Clarkish
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Edited by SirTripAlot (07/02/20 02:48 PM)
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Re: NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag [Re: SirTripAlot] 1
#26799818 - 07/02/20 04:39 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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That could almost pass as a Wagon Queen Family Truckster
Edited by Stable Genius (07/03/20 06:16 AM)
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Re: NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag [Re: vinsue] 1
#26799827 - 07/02/20 04:44 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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That thing would look great turned right into the safety fence
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Re: NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag [Re: Psilynut2]
#26800210 - 07/02/20 07:59 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Psilynut2 said: I really like go karts . I want a shifter kart but don’t have time due to having a 2 year old . Maybe in a few years though . I was going to take my 911 on a canyon run with my neighbor and his Lotus this weekend but he crashed it at laguna seca 2 weekends ago . He spent 30k on it and only had it 3 months , he seems to think it was worth it though .
Racing karts are great. Shifters are quite fast, and are very hard to drive to their potential. I raced karts for 18 years, it was a blast. I hope top get my son into it soon.
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Re: NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag [Re: christopera] 1
#26800246 - 07/02/20 08:14 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's forza 7 on Xbox and yes it's pc compatable.
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Re: NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 2
#26801903 - 07/03/20 05:37 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: Apparently Mississippi banned their use of the Confederate flag too: https://www.ibtimes.com/richmond-removing-confederate-statues-mississippi-retires-state-flag-3004067
Unreal Even states are following suit.
This is GLORIOUS.
This is a true MILESTONE in the racial socialization of America.
White folks have been OUT OF THEIR FUCKING TITS for all of American history and are now starting to come to their senses that look - that was all wrong and the state flag shouldnt pay hommage to the confederavy anymore than the German flag should have a swastika in it.
FINALLY GOOD SHIT IS HAPPENING AGAIN towards the racially unified America MLK dreamt of.
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Re: NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag [Re: Asante]
#26801921 - 07/03/20 05:44 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Fuck ya man! We're making progress in The States! FINALLY! Times are fjnally changing for the Better! End the Racism!
Time for America to FINALLY move on from its racist pasts and retiring the Conferedate flag is the first step in that progress. I couldnt be happier about it 
I feel like MLKs dream is finally coming True. Slowly, but surely 
Christophera, u should race on Forza 7. Its a ton of fun Also, go carts (real life) is a lot of fun too, electric and gas 
Vinsue, cant believe theres a Trump NASCAR. Do they have no shame?
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Re: NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#26801947 - 07/03/20 06:00 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just imagine if we had a president that had the enthusiasm of the last couple posts.....its not TDS; it has been Trump's conduct unbecoming within the executive,itself, is the source of the decisiveness.
Trump has a total lack of decorum. That shit matters, to me, as much as policy...guess it is my military past.
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Edited by SirTripAlot (07/03/20 06:02 PM)
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Re: NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag [Re: SirTripAlot]
#26801951 - 07/03/20 06:02 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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No doubt. Its obvious that Trump is not happy about these changes. Hes luke-warm at best.
I am aware that the Military looks to the President with a ton of revere. I can only imagine what vets are thinking right now, especially Black vets.
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Re: NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag [Re: SirTripAlot] 3
#26801963 - 07/03/20 06:07 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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This is a great move. I am a history teacher and I feel pretty strongly about this. We have imported Africans and treated them like shit in America for a long time. What is happening now isn't just cause of these current deaths. Imagine a pressure cooker left on high with someone out of the house. If that PC never gets checked it will explode.
Tell me this: What country has monuments of enemies from past wars? If people want to document the civil war and have pictures, statues, or things of their leaders in a museum in proper historical context I am all for it but the current way we display them is not appropriate. Do you see statues of Vietnamese generals at our capitals? Is there a hitler statue in any USA parks or town squares? I think not.
Saying it is their "heritage" is just silly. The confederacy lasted all but a few years. The "culture" they are trying to preserve is thinly veiled by "patriotism" but generally is just white nationalism (nationalist socialists is what some of the nazis are calling themselves in the USA these days I believe).
Black people helped build this country and don't get much credit for it. Our history is half bullshit, but luckily the stuff I get to teach now is SOOO much more in line with the truth than what was taught when I was a kid. They taught us the civil war had to do with State's rights and little to do with slavery itself. yea right.
Edited by MrTinAZ (07/03/20 06:09 PM)
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Re: NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag [Re: MrTinAZ] 1
#26801965 - 07/03/20 06:09 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Awesome post man. Well said! 
Lets leave the US's dark past in the past and move on to legit Equal Rights for the Black Community who as you said help build the US
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Re: NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag [Re: Kizzle] 2
#26801986 - 07/03/20 06:18 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Nothing magic about it. The confederacy existed solely to protect the institution of slavery.
And that's the flag's fault? You really think all the people that fly it are doing it out of some kind of secret love of slavery and not the reasons they will tell you?
Flags represent things. The reasons they will tell you is that it is "about their heritage". What heritage do they need to represent other than the USA flag or the Quote:
Kizzle said: I don't see how it's racist. I mean lots of countries have had slavery and yet it didn't magically make their flags racist for all time.
The USA was literally the last country to ban slavery and had external pressures from other countries to do so as well as internal pressures.
Your argument makes absolutely zero sense. We STILL fly the American flag...the flag that the USA had during the Civil war. The confederate flag NEVER was the United States flag and the United States never recognized the South as a country. So you are comparing other nations flags to the flag of a group of rebels. The South existed for merely a few years under the confederacy. The South fought for their right to preserve slavery. So please tell me what "culture and heritage" does the flag represent since those are the "reasons" supporters give for having it? Back when we didn't let black people talk we sold the lie that the war was only about State's rights but modern history has completely debunked that notion.
Flags represent things, you can't talk about the flag like it is a kid "aww he is so cute, it's not his fault what his parents did" NOOOO it doesn't work like that. Flags have meaning and symbolism and we ALL know what this flag symbolized. A group of rebels that went to war with our nation for the purpose of protecting their investment in human capital.
If you want some books to read on the subject I would be happy to recommend some. I don't mind people debating me or having opinions I disagree with, but your rationale makes zero sense and is the kind of attitude that perpetuates hate. I am not saying you are a bad or hateful person, but the fact that you have these types of views and don't realize the hurt these views cause to your countrymen who have bled and sweat for you is just sad.
Edited by MrTinAZ (07/03/20 06:27 PM)
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Re: NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag [Re: SirTripAlot] 2
#26801988 - 07/03/20 06:18 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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2020 - The State of Mississippi chose to join the United States of America.
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Re: NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag [Re: Asante] 1
#26802452 - 07/03/20 11:05 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thr United States just got a little more United.
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Re: NASCAR Bans the Confederate Flag [Re: MrTinAZ] 1
#26802651 - 07/04/20 01:43 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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MrTinAZ said:
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Kizzle said:
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Enlil said: Nothing magic about it. The confederacy existed solely to protect the institution of slavery.
And that's the flag's fault? You really think all the people that fly it are doing it out of some kind of secret love of slavery and not the reasons they will tell you?
Flags represent things. The reasons they will tell you is that it is "about their heritage". What heritage do they need to represent other than the USA flag or the Quote:
Kizzle said: I don't see how it's racist. I mean lots of countries have had slavery and yet it didn't magically make their flags racist for all time.
The USA was literally the last country to ban slavery and had external pressures from other countries to do so as well as internal pressures.
Your argument makes absolutely zero sense. We STILL fly the American flag...the flag that the USA had during the Civil war. The confederate flag NEVER was the United States flag and the United States never recognized the South as a country. So you are comparing other nations flags to the flag of a group of rebels. The South existed for merely a few years under the confederacy. The South fought for their right to preserve slavery. So please tell me what "culture and heritage" does the flag represent since those are the "reasons" supporters give for having it? Back when we didn't let black people talk we sold the lie that the war was only about State's rights but modern history has completely debunked that notion.
Flags represent things, you can't talk about the flag like it is a kid "aww he is so cute, it's not his fault what his parents did" NOOOO it doesn't work like that. Flags have meaning and symbolism and we ALL know what this flag symbolized. A group of rebels that went to war with our nation for the purpose of protecting their investment in human capital.
If you want some books to read on the subject I would be happy to recommend some. I don't mind people debating me or having opinions I disagree with, but your rationale makes zero sense and is the kind of attitude that perpetuates hate. I am not saying you are a bad or hateful person, but the fact that you have these types of views and don't realize the hurt these views cause to your countrymen who have bled and sweat for you is just sad.
Yes. The countries that are the most authoritarian or totalitarian are the most obsessed with symbols.
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