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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: HamHead]
#26739311 - 06/12/20 11:00 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Gypsy Boy said: What , in every country or just some countries that still relatively untouched
The US is ramping back up like it did in March but this time nobody is going to do anything to stop it. It’s like we wasted the past three months. I can’t believe what a failure this place is.
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I have a hard time believing how many of you still think Covid is going to kill millions of people.
Numbers are out people, I said it before, comparable to seasonal flu.
There are zip codes in NYC where the mortality rate is over 0.6
Your number is not mathematically possible
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: mushboy]
#26739313 - 06/12/20 11:02 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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HamHead said: Numbers are out people, I said it before, comparable to seasonal flu.
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koods said: Not gonna happen. Do not be surprised if Mexico and Canada ban travel from the US. We are going to be the global hotspot in 12 days.
Imma link this again in 12 days when I’m on my flight! 
Imma link this whole thread in 12weeks when nothing happens
Then what? How will we look at ourselves and all the hysteria that has been fueled? Anyone gonna say anything like, damn I was wrong
Millions dead has been the mantra since feburary...
Has it been 12 weeks? We don’t need to wait to prove you were wrong
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: pirate-blues]
#26739317 - 06/12/20 11:03 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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pirate-blues said: You have a hard time believing it because you're failing to understand some very simple math. Your own purported cfr number proves that. Until a vaccine is out it's a matter of when, not if. The name of the game is closing society just enough that we can slow the spread so we don't overwhelm hospital systems so society doesn't turn to complete and total shit.
I don't know why this is so hard to understand for you.
Uh, because hospital are laying people off. All those emergency hospitals that were put up in a hurry, many were never used or had very few paitents.
What people don't seem to understand is that this has been spreading since August 2019 and whatever testing is being done, is only taking snapshots of infection rares.
Unless everyone is being tested on a daily basis, numbers will always be inaccurate.
I don't even know why I try anymore. I enjoyed my self imposed 30 day ban.
And I thought I was hard headed.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: koods] 3
#26739322 - 06/12/20 11:05 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Not watching your trashy videos.
The virus has already killed near half a million. At the current trajectory, it's definitely gonna broach a million soon.
We're only just seeing third world countries getting badly hit. Brazil shows a good example of how quickly.
If you've ever visited one, you'll know how disastrously under prepared they are for something like this.
It is, without a shadow of a doubt IMO, gonna get real gnarly in some places in pretty short order.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: HamHead] 2
#26739323 - 06/12/20 11:06 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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pirate-blues said: You have a hard time believing it because you're failing to understand some very simple math. Your own purported cfr number proves that. Until a vaccine is out it's a matter of when, not if. The name of the game is closing society just enough that we can slow the spread so we don't overwhelm hospital systems so society doesn't turn to complete and total shit.
I don't know why this is so hard to understand for you.
Uh, because hospital are laying people off. All those emergency hospitals that were put up in a hurry, many were never used or had very few paitents.
What people don't seem to understand is that this has been spreading since August 2019 and whatever testing is being done, is only taking snapshots of infection rares.
Unless everyone is being tested on a daily basis, numbers will always be inaccurate.
I don't even know why I try anymore. I enjoyed my self imposed 30 day ban.
And I thought I was hard headed.
Nope you're definitely soft headed.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: HamHead] 3
#26739329 - 06/12/20 11:09 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Spreading since August? Proof?
The lockdowns worked. That’s why the hospitals didn’t fill up. It’s exactly what we wanted to happen, but people like think it’s evidence there was no danger. It’s like putting out a fire that would have consumed your house and then saying there was no reason to put out the fire because the house didn’t burn down.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 2
#26739333 - 06/12/20 11:10 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said: Not watching your trashy videos.
I banned my self because of you. I don't know how you haven't been for flaming me.
Get lost.
Proof???
Test any blood samples taken from August for Covid19 antibodies.
You can't, so shut up.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: koods]
#26739335 - 06/12/20 11:10 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Cause....and....effect???
What is that??
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: HamHead]
#26739344 - 06/12/20 11:14 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Test any blood samples taken from August for Covid19 antibodies.
You can't, so shut up.
I take it you're laying out a hypothetical situation in which proof of the thing you claimed to be true might exist?
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: HamHead] 2
#26739359 - 06/12/20 11:18 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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HamHead said: I banned my self because of you.
LOLLOL. You made my day with this. I'm in hysterics tyoping this.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#26739362 - 06/12/20 11:18 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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LOL
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: psi]
#26739379 - 06/12/20 11:25 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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People gotta go to work. Perhaps a selective lockdown would be the hand to play. “Higher risk” folks stay home while strapping young men (and women) punch the time clock..
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods]
#26739380 - 06/12/20 11:25 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Has it been 12 weeks? We don’t need to wait to prove you were wrong
it was 12 weeks back in march when the world was ending for the 100th time this year
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: Amanita86]
#26739392 - 06/12/20 11:30 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: People gotta go to work. Perhaps a selective lockdown would be the hand to play. “Higher risk” folks stay home while strapping young men (and women) punch the time clock..
I think that while some things are inevitably gonna shut down, a selective lockdown could work. It's working in the northeast. I think we could even expand it provided we had enough actual, legit ppe for workers and managed to modify things to truly make them safe. That's gonna take time and money. I would like to see a federal and state effort.
I've seen more initiative to help reopen business and commerce safely from the CRM platform I use at work than I have from the federal government. That's fucked.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: HamHead]
#26739464 - 06/12/20 12:04 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said: Not watching your trashy videos.
I banned my self because of you. I don't know how you haven't been for flaming me.
Get lost.
Proof???
Test any blood samples taken from August for Covid19 antibodies.
You can't, so shut up.
Ok show me the tests. Otherwise you’re just making shit up.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: mushboy]
#26739467 - 06/12/20 12:05 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Has it been 12 weeks? We don’t need to wait to prove you were wrong
it was 12 weeks back in march when the world was ending for the 100th time this year
The world was ending? You’re gonna need to source that claim.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: mushboy]
#26739515 - 06/12/20 12:32 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Has it been 12 weeks? We don’t need to wait to prove you were wrong
it was 12 weeks back in march when the world was ending for the 100th time this year
The US did become a global hotspot for the disease, and Canada and Mexico did close their borders to it though.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: koods]
#26739956 - 06/12/20 04:16 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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koods said: Ok show me the tests. Otherwise you’re just making shit up.
I'm going to have to ask you to hold your breath until those results come out.
Seriously though, it would be an extremely simple way of testing how far back infections have been occurring.
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#26739969 - 06/12/20 04:24 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah and it would be a perfect way to support your claim it was spreading at that time if that evidence existed. As it stands though you've given no reason to believe your claim.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 1
#26739973 - 06/12/20 04:27 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said: At the current trajectory, it's definitely gonna broach a million soon..
When, next year?

Forget about heart disease.
And smoking.
And diabetes.
And a whole other list of things that I have mentioned before that are taking out many more than Covid could even fantasize about killing.
Fun fact incoming!!!
Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. This is about one in five deaths annually, or 1,300 deaths every day.
We should really be shutting down the entire globe for cigarettes. Do you see that?
480,000!!!
Covid can only wish it were this lethal.
Here's another one.
About 647,000 Americans die from heart disease each year—that's 1 in every 4 deaths. Heart disease costs the United States about $219 billion each year from 2014 to 2015.
647,000!!!

100,000 deaths. Pathetic.
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