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Psyche delics
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Re: Do essential workers deserve extra money from the government? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#26742972 - 06/13/20 11:19 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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That's another thing my state is pretty much out of tax revenue. If you want more money grow a pair and go out on strike.
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CHeifM4sterDiezL
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Re: Do essential workers deserve extra money from the government? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#26742977 - 06/13/20 11:23 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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honestly who cares about nurses they make ample salaries with benefits to sit in a climate controlled well lit state the art clean facility and do what any decent human would do for another and get paid for it. Then they have to gaul to complain about that. What about ur single other thay didn't have the opportunity to go to nursing school and get paid a mear pittance. All while u treat them like pariah demanding your hoards of toilet paper and food to over eat and get fat on or trash to break and toss to the landfill. What about some black brown girl that works hard everyday scanning mind numbing amounts of just pure crap to walking sacks of human garbage. Smiling and thanking each one. I'm surprised more habent gone postal with how you people treat them honestly.
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Re: Do essential workers deserve extra money from the government? [Re: Tripsurfer]
#26742983 - 06/13/20 11:25 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tripsurfer said: For sure, Im in top management
Most of our actions are aimed at keeping all staff at work. Everybody in the management team took a paycutt to keep everyone on board
That's nice, but in general the objective of management is to increase shareholder value.
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Re: Do essential workers deserve extra money from the government? [Re: Psyche delics]
#26742987 - 06/13/20 11:27 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Psyche delics said: That's another thing my state is pretty much out of tax revenue. If you want more money grow a pair and go out on strike.
Out of tax revenue? Wtf happened did ur entire economy collapse? Or do u just think it's okay to live in a state where u don't pay taxes and constantly lose money for the country on a good year and have to get bailed out for every single natural disaster. My state were pissed we depleted or finally healthy rainy day fund over people being so fucking dumb and now we have to tighten the belt to start saving again to grow a comfortable savings. But yah taxes are stealimg haha
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Re: Do essential workers deserve extra money from the government? [Re: Brian Jones]
#26742994 - 06/13/20 11:30 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Brian Jones said:
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Tripsurfer said: For sure, Im in top management
Most of our actions are aimed at keeping all staff at work. Everybody in the management team took a paycutt to keep everyone on board
That's nice, but in general the objective of management is to increase shareholder value.
The objective is to maximize profit which in turn keeps all staff employed in stable jobs and increases shareholder value thereby capital in which the company can grow and the show goes on
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Re: Do essential workers deserve extra money from the government? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#26742995 - 06/13/20 11:31 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Idk it's just what I read have no idea how.
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Re: Do essential workers deserve extra money from the government? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#26742998 - 06/13/20 11:32 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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maximizing profit can mean some rather unscrupulous things but it could also mean just doing right by people and simply just good business
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Re: Do essential workers deserve extra money from the government? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] 2
#26743005 - 06/13/20 11:35 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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if you can't afford to pay all your employees a living wage, and leave it to the taxpayers to carry them with things like food stamps and other government programs just to survive...
maybe you have no business being in business.
you corporate welfare queens.
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Re: Do essential workers deserve extra money from the government? [Re: Psion]
#26743006 - 06/13/20 11:36 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Do essential workers deserve extra money from the government? [Re: Psion]
#26743015 - 06/13/20 11:40 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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paying bottom rung employees a livable wage would be lit a drop in the bucket to the bottom line. Not only that but pretty much everywhere its been done its been beneficial. No matter what you do its been my opinion that raising the bottom rung is just simply good for everyone. By paying these people more they dont save it like rich people they just blow it all on crap constantly its actually incredible the bend over backwards to spend it. Major driver for the economy. I think bernstien sanders said we havent raised minimum wage in ten years i think its more than that idk. Shameful outrageous and detrimental not only to the American economy but the health and psyche of our neighbors in the community that do important essential work most of us take for granted
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Re: Do essential workers deserve extra money from the government? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#26743028 - 06/13/20 11:49 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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How is federal minimum age $7 something. Wtf u guys. Here well be at $15 by 2023 and thats just based on the numbers we were running for inflation and that's considered not even anything and catching up from wat behind as its gone up like a dollar every year from couple years ago till then. Look the numbers I thing most the older generations would be shocked to find out what millennial are expected to get by on then to be told theyre useless and entitled
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Re: Do essential workers deserve extra money from the government? [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
#26743038 - 06/13/20 11:55 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ahab McBathsalts said: My employer was giving us an extra $25 a day for the first 6 weeks, but they quit that now.
It's not like covid is gunna go away in the USA anytime soon. It's gunna be at least another year of this. You just gotta roll with the punches at this point.
At Amazon we got an extra $2 an hour plus double time for overtime. The double time was great. It ended June 1. We have 2 or more new positive cases per week at my location.
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Re: Do essential workers deserve extra money from the government? [Re: Brian Jones] 1
#26743059 - 06/14/20 12:06 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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No owner or employee stockholder ceo or whatever should be allowed to make over three times what the lowest paid employee makes
I mean if you can’t live on three times what you expect someone else to live on then fuck you
Also, until homelessness is eradicated no one should be allowed to own more than one property
Property hoarding drives up rent and housing prices and prices out the poor
One person owning multiple properties while others are homeless is obscene and inhumane
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Re: Do essential workers deserve extra money from the government? [Re: Brian Jones] 1
#26743061 - 06/14/20 12:07 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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honestly, federal minimum needs to be raised to a living wage, immediately, and tied to inflation. but wait, you cry, this will drive business out of business, they can't handle the shock!
simple. let the government absorb the initial shock at first, with subsidies, that fade each year. we're already throwing money out the wazoo to businesses anyways in the trillions, might as well make it actually COUNT this time.
that way, we get the immediate pay raise (that stays properly at a living wage instead of constantly lagging decades behind the curve and waiting for congress to get off their asses to fix it) and companies get several years or more to slowly adjust to the cost (read: cut their CEOs 10 billion dollar golden parachute or something to 5 billion. boo hoo.)
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Re: Do essential workers deserve extra money from the government? [Re: Brian Jones]
#26743063 - 06/14/20 12:08 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Brian Jones said:
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Ahab McBathsalts said: My employer was giving us an extra $25 a day for the first 6 weeks, but they quit that now.
It's not like covid is gunna go away in the USA anytime soon. It's gunna be at least another year of this. You just gotta roll with the punches at this point.
At Amazon we got an extra $2 an hour plus double time for overtime. The double time was great. It ended June 1. We have 2 or more new positive cases per week at my location.
You should get at least 1/3 of what Bezos gets
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Re: Do essential workers deserve extra money from the government? [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#26743067 - 06/14/20 12:10 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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TheFakeSunRa said: No owner or employee stockholder ceo or whatever should be allowed to make over three times what the lowest paid employee makes
I mean if you can’t live on three times what you expect someone else to live on then fuck you
Also, until homelessness is eradicated no one should be allowed to own more than one property
Property hoarding drives up rent and housing prices and prices out the poor
One person owning multiple properties while others are homeless is obscene and inhumane
3 times? try 300 times. lol. it varies, but in the US the average CEO makes around 250 to 350 times the lowest worker, depending on the year.
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Re: Do essential workers deserve extra money from the government? [Re: Tripsurfer]
#26743085 - 06/14/20 12:23 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tripsurfer said: For sure, Im in top management
Most of our actions are aimed at keeping all staff at work. Everybody in the management team took a paycutt to keep everyone on board
In this scenario. What about a healthy economy at max employment, and a large tax cut aimed your way, what do you do in that situation? My guess if you are publicly traded, stock buybacks to raise the stock price, you know those nice options you get.
Top level, c-suite management don't worry about keeping people employed, its increasing earnings and increasing p/e ratios. There are millions of emaples of this.
I mean you could pass some of those progits on to employees in the form of raises, but that is bad business.
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Re: Do essential workers deserve extra money from the government? [Re: Psion]
#26743110 - 06/14/20 12:45 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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TheFakeSunRa said: No owner or employee stockholder ceo or whatever should be allowed to make over three times what the lowest paid employee makes
I mean if you can’t live on three times what you expect someone else to live on then fuck you
Also, until homelessness is eradicated no one should be allowed to own more than one property
Property hoarding drives up rent and housing prices and prices out the poor
One person owning multiple properties while others are homeless is obscene and inhumane
3 times? try 300 times. lol. it varies, but in the US the average CEO makes around 250 to 350 times the lowest worker, depending on the year.
It’s often over 1000 times. But that should be illegal. 3 times should be the legal limit.
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Re: Do essential workers deserve extra money from the government? [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#26743127 - 06/14/20 12:59 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Do essential workers deserve extra money from the government? [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#26743179 - 06/14/20 01:47 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Some people are just lazy spoiled fucks.
Like capitalists governments who expect others to risk their lives to keep the money coming in.
Fixed that for you.
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