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CHeifM4sterDiezL
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Media fairness laws in our modern internet era.
#26738515 - 06/12/20 02:10 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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While freedom of speech and lose reigns on media control are important tenets of American democracy it is my opinion that it is more important than ever to establish substantial laws on the books that protect Americans from misinformation and sensationalism. We used to have a few decent laws and things that were in my opinion important safe guards and check balances. Fcc fairnes doctrine, the bradley law, several others I've forgotten. All of these have been slowly quietly eroded setting up the shitstorm of bullshit flying around we see today. With all these various spin doctors and bullshit artists trying to gain political leverage and power all so these media moguls can rake in insane profits off manipulating decent folks emotions.
How do other members feel about fairness in media? I know there's some recently proposed laws on the table already but what might some of these new modern protections look like? Do any of you think this encroaches too far on freedom of press? What about the internet should that be reigned in aswell or just TV and print? Is there anything the average American citizen can do to help stop the spread of disinformation and yellow journalism?
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Re: Media fairness laws in our modern internet era. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#26738522 - 06/12/20 02:13 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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The media has never been fair. The modern media is the bastard child of the propaganda machine and advertising with a sprinkle of mass psychology. It was never designed to be fair or balanced. It was designed to shape your point of view.
Edward Bernays basically invented advertising. He has a couple of books that are pretty easy to read.
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Re: Media fairness laws in our modern internet era. [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
#26738534 - 06/12/20 02:23 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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In a modern democracy its tantamount that the public is able to access fair accurate and comprehensive information so by hat they may be able to formulate informed decisions and opinions. Again this is regarding important controversial political reporting not whether you should buy Coca-Cola or Pepsi. Im talking about the real thing. And what good is the real thing if you cant enjoy it in a real way? Thats why I choose to enjoy the real refreshment of a Coca-Cola brand product. The real thing.
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Re: Media fairness laws in our modern internet era. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#26738541 - 06/12/20 02:28 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Isn't that the point behind public radio and TV? NPR and PBS?
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Re: Media fairness laws in our modern internet era. [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
#26738547 - 06/12/20 02:33 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes partially but I dont remember a time going back to the invention of the printing press where ppl thought it was OK to let assholes just print bullshit about stuff. Sure it happened alot but it was never considered the right thing. I mean anyone can see that media bullshit has essentially gotten out of hand with the internet and social media.
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Re: Media fairness laws in our modern internet era. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#26738553 - 06/12/20 02:41 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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The great thing about the free press is if you don't like the bias in media you can start your own media outlet. I am against regulation of the media. Let consumers decide with their clicks
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Re: Media fairness laws in our modern internet era. [Re: viraldrome]
#26738555 - 06/12/20 02:42 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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How do you know its bias when they never show you the otherside of the coin?
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Re: Media fairness laws in our modern internet era. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#26738557 - 06/12/20 02:44 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: How do you know its bias when they never show you the otherside of the coin?
I can research for myself and I am not a fucking moron
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Re: Media fairness laws in our modern internet era. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#26738561 - 06/12/20 02:49 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yah but your average person is to lazy and dumb to care enough. like I said guys I dont think some of u remember how shit used to be in the early internet. It would be like a whole scathing article of bullshit and then at the very end in a tiny sentence theyre like "yah but in reality the other guys dewd actually said this...which doesn't matter cuz bullshit" all I'm talking about here is media fairness not censoring opinions.
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Re: Media fairness laws in our modern internet era. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#26738575 - 06/12/20 03:10 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't think media fairness is enforceable.
I can watch conservative coverage of an event and then watch liberal coverage of the same event and agree with points on both sides. Its up to individuals to decide for themselves, and if they are not capable of determining good sources from bad I am not sure we can help them.
For years papers wouldn't write anything pro weed because their crime beat reporters would be blacklisted by the police. Not sure how you can make a law that stops shit like that. There are a million factors that affect the media beyond politics. The anti weed paper i read won't change its stance, i assume all the liquor ads inside are why. This shit runs deep.
I've spent my whole life watching psychedelic drug stories in the media be all about horror stories, because it sells papers. Maybe the answer is taking the money of out the equation. The whole system of capitalist media is corrupt, but the alternative of a state media comes with even more issues.
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Re: Media fairness laws in our modern internet era. [Re: viraldrome]
#26738584 - 06/12/20 03:19 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Again we had kinda ironed shit out a little with print and radio they just took those laws away or let them expire. I think there can be updated laws made that increase fairness and hold these companies accountable to their moral obligation to report the whole truth as news as public information gatekeepers while still protecting freedom of press.
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Re: Media fairness laws in our modern internet era. [Re: viraldrome]
#26738681 - 06/12/20 05:08 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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viraldrome said:
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: How do you know its bias when they never show you the otherside of the coin?
I can research for myself and I am not a fucking moron
You most certainly are if you believe the vast majority, who are going to elect a president that is head of the most interfering mofo, with the largest millitary ever, have either the time or inclination to 'fact check'.
For all it's faults I prefer the approach of the 'beeb'(BBC)with clear guidelines which it tries to implement.
I don't claim to have read much of this, but it may interest some of the more anal of ya.
Editorial Guidelines
Section 4: Impartiality: We must always scrutinise arguments, question consensus and hold power to account with consistency and due impartiality.
There is a reason that politicians, on both sides, have done all they can to slowly undemine the "beeb". The present government are acting at the behest of Murdock, who was undoubtedly offered more in that direction from the Consevatives than he was from the Labour party, hence his media companies switch to them.
I dread the day when all media in this country is accompanied by endless commercial breaks offering repeated prompts to buy the latest piece of spakling shite. I had reason to listen to one such commercial radio station for about an hour yesterday. It was fucking horrendous. I believe the advent of commercial broadcasting in this country precipitated our slow decline into superficiality and stupidity as we hastened to copy the fucking horror show which is America.
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