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RebeccaBlack
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: pirate-blues] 1
#26737571 - 06/11/20 06:49 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Masks + social distancing, customer number limits in all stores, systematic hand washing and cart washing at the stores, not tests, no contact tracing and it works.
I was certain we needed testing and contact tracing. The density of the population has to do with it too. In places like South Korea, you need mass testing to kill the thing early because the population is dense and clusters should be identified and quarantined.
In canada, symptomatic cases are isolated and people who had contact isolate for 14 days.
It seems like a very small price to pay for this huge mess this COVID19 thing has been. But the price will be paid for generation, but not in lives at least.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: pirate-blues]
#26737761 - 06/11/20 07:48 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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This country is a shitshow. April was nothing compared to what’s going to happen. Houston is probably going into lockdown.
No other country is going to have a chart like ours. Either they were hit early and won’t be letting it happen again or they’re getting hit now. We’re both.
I got tested today results probably Monday. I’m not feeling I’ll just figured I do too because they didn’t look busy and I was protesting
Edited by koods (06/11/20 07:51 PM)
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Amanita86
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: koods]
#26737768 - 06/11/20 07:51 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah perhaps we shouldn’t have locked down at all, and we certainly shouldn’t have gone out rioting.. perhaps nuance is something to be considered..
Oh well, too late now.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
#26737790 - 06/11/20 07:55 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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ShroomerInTheRye said: We had 1,698 cases in Florida just today, but hey, why not open up Busch Gardens the fuck anyways today? Nobody really likes Tampa anyways.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/
It’s fucking horrifying and DeSantis is walking around like he’s a champ.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: Amanita86]
#26737820 - 06/11/20 08:03 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: Yeah perhaps we shouldn’t have locked down at all, and we certainly shouldn’t have gone out rioting.. perhaps nuance is something to be considered..
Oh well, too late now.
The little you did do saved lives.
In hindsight now that the measures of success have been clearly defined Ie strong economy above all else....you may be right it was all a waste of time.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: pineninja]
#26737830 - 06/11/20 08:06 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Saved ‘certain’ lives.....
Lives that were cancelled out through things like suicide haven’t been tallied. The full scope of the economic destruction hasn’t been accounted for fully... it’s kind of a rock and a hard place sorta thing.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: Amanita86] 2
#26737869 - 06/11/20 08:21 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Its not really that's just a scapegoat to send you back to the frontlines.
People are stressed to f in all types of ways through this and no doubt there are tragedies because of it.
We didn't seem all that worried about the ever increasing suicide rates and social malfunction when they were caused by the economy.
Do we work for it or does it work for us?
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: pineninja] 2
#26737907 - 06/11/20 08:37 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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We are slaves to the machines we invented..
Think of the capabilities we have, and we’re still white knuckling it through this shit. It doesn’t have to be this way, but it is.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: pineninja]
#26737954 - 06/11/20 08:56 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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pineninja said: 7200 total cases in Aus.
Not for any other purpose than comparison.
I was thinking about Australia as I wrote the post you responded to. I started to type a line about it but thought better of it and deleted it.
I would love to have moved there already, and to sit back with a Coopers Ale and watch the world burn.
Alas, I'm destined to be sitting on the front lines of the shit show.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: Amanita86] 3
#26737955 - 06/11/20 08:57 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: Saved ‘certain’ lives.....
Lives that were cancelled out through things like suicide haven’t been tallied. The full scope of the economic destruction hasn’t been accounted for fully... it’s kind of a rock and a hard place sorta thing.
Is there any evidence of a significant spike in suicides? I hear this over and over, but where’s the data?
Edit: looks like suicides are significantly down. During March and April, Colorado saw a 40% decrease in suicides. Overall deaths increased 20%
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.denverpost.com/2020/05/23/colorado-suicides-dropped-coronavirus-pandemic-calls-to-crisis-line-spiked/amp/
I think this puts this suicide bullshit to rest
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: koods] 1
#26737963 - 06/11/20 09:00 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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koods said: Is there any evidence of a significant spike in suicides? I hear this over and over, but where’s the data?
Psssht. Data? You peasant koods. Data is no longer required, as every person with rustled jimmies is now an expert in everything.
Just ask Bodhi. He's better than 98% of people at knowing stuff.
LOL.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#26737965 - 06/11/20 09:00 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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TheFakeSunRa said: It’s fucking horrifying and DeSantis is walking around like he’s a champ.
On the bright side, we have 69,069 total cases in FL right now...
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: koods]
#26737988 - 06/11/20 09:12 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Oh look it’s Koods telling me I’m wrong..... shocking..
You know there’s 49 other states right? Of course you do.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
#26737992 - 06/11/20 09:13 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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ShroomerInTheRye said:
Quote:
TheFakeSunRa said: It’s fucking horrifying and DeSantis is walking around like he’s a champ.
On the bright side, we have 69,069 total cases in FL right now... 
nice
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: mndfreeze] 1
#26738039 - 06/11/20 09:34 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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koods
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: Amanita86]
#26738041 - 06/11/20 09:34 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: Oh look it’s Koods telling me I’m wrong..... shocking..
You know there’s 49 other states right? Of course you do.
Mortality trends are fairly consistent nationwide. A 40% decrease is very significant and I would be extremely surprised if the rest of the country hasn’t followed the trend. There is no reason to think that Colorado is an exception.
San Louis Obispo county Calif: 2020 to date has fewer suicides than the same period each of the past five years. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.sanluisobispo.com/news/local/article242738356.html
Suicide attempts down 7.5% in Utah https://kslnewsradio.com/1926032/utah-reports-suicide-attempts-down-during-pandemic/amp/
Suicides down in Idaho https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ktvb.com/amp/article/news/health/health-and-welfare-director-idahos-suicide-rate-has-declined-during-coronavirus-pandemic/277-dfff1c1b-b774-4a01-ac6f-898be67111e4
Suicides down in Saskatchewan https://globalnews.ca/news/6955246/coronavirus-saskatchewan-suicide/amp/
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: koods]
#26738153 - 06/11/20 10:45 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: Amanita86]
#26738196 - 06/11/20 11:08 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Are the northeast states going to have to isolate themselves from the rest of the country? Responsible pandemic behavior and compliance is a sacrifice, but it succeed and now all that hard work is going to be threatened by assholes in the lazy, don’t give a fuck states.

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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: koods]
#26738245 - 06/11/20 11:30 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Same argument is happening here except the state's that are having trouble don't really deserve it.
If they were as separate in opinion and behavior than the rest it wouldn't even be an argument.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: koods]
#26738247 - 06/11/20 11:31 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't think compliance has been the name of the game in either the Northeast nor the rest of the country for a few weeks now. Nationwide protests are pretty much the equivalent of hosting massive music festivals across the country, and give a fuck states were not exempted.
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