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CHeifM4sterDiezL
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Re: Will there be anarchy? We will see. Seattle has an Autonomous Zone [Re: Enlil]
#26776494 - 06/23/20 11:16 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah well it implies some kind of wrongdoing. You think the cops just let him go for no reason in this political climate? If anything the family needs to becareful what they say to the media or they'll lose thier kid and thier shirt like tryvonn Martians family
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Re: Will there be anarchy? We will see. Seattle has an Autonomous Zone [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#26776499 - 06/23/20 11:20 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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OJ was acquitted criminally and held liable civilly. The standard of proof is lower in civil court. Just because someone wasn't charged doesn't mean they can't be found liable civilly.
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CHeifM4sterDiezL
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Re: Will there be anarchy? We will see. Seattle has an Autonomous Zone [Re: Enlil] 1
#26776507 - 06/23/20 11:24 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Liable for what? For the death in the skateboard attack as the gentleman was attempting to flee or whatever happened? Yah like I said they better becareful. I would slap everyone involved silly they would wake up with so many lawsuits crammed up thier ass thier head would explode. U cant attack a man then destroy his life in the media over your own racism.
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Re: Will there be anarchy? We will see. Seattle has an Autonomous Zone [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#26776522 - 06/23/20 11:30 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: Sue him for defending himself? Oh thats right you think everyone holding a gun is instantly a criminal got it.
Some of the people shot were bystanders who just happened to get in the way of a bullet he chose to fire from his gun. He is responsible for his own actions.
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Re: Will there be anarchy? We will see. Seattle has an Autonomous Zone [Re: koods]
#26776550 - 06/23/20 11:49 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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No hes actually not liable for that at all the man who attacked him is at fault for that sue them or the estate if the guys died or whatever. Sue everyone
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Re: Will there be anarchy? We will see. Seattle has an Autonomous Zone [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#26776650 - 06/23/20 12:40 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: No hes actually not liable for that at all the man who attacked him is at fault for that sue them or the estate if the guys died or whatever. Sue everyone
I don't know where you went to law school, counselor, but he is almost certainly liable for any bystander shot. Firing a round in a manner that it will hit an innocent bystander is the very definition of negligence.
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Re: Will there be anarchy? We will see. Seattle has an Autonomous Zone [Re: Enlil]
#26776716 - 06/23/20 01:03 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Enlil said: OJ was acquitted criminally and held liable civilly. The standard of proof is lower in civil court. Just because someone wasn't charged doesn't mean they can't be found liable civilly.
I sat on a civil jury in DC. Woman wanted pain and suffering damages because she claimed to have been injured in a car accident despite declining a medical evaluation at the time of the accident. She was also pregnant at the time of the accident. Most of the jury just wanted to throw money at her, and we awarded her a couple thousand dollars. I voted against awarding her any money, but civil trials (at least in DC) only require a majority vote not a unanimous one and there were seven of us, not 12. The defendant didn’t even show up for the trial. He just sent his lawyer and I’m pretty sure that didn’t help his case, even if the judge told us we couldn’t factor that into the decision.
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Re: Will there be anarchy? We will see. Seattle has an Autonomous Zone [Re: koods]
#26776763 - 06/23/20 01:18 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Its transfered intent are u serious? The aggressor intended to attack and harm the victim which resulted in the shooting of a bystander. I mean thats just the facts of reality and the facts of law. Ur living on another planet.
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Re: Will there be anarchy? We will see. Seattle has an Autonomous Zone [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#26776922 - 06/23/20 02:12 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nope. You're wrong.
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Re: Will there be anarchy? We will see. Seattle has an Autonomous Zone [Re: Enlil]
#26776967 - 06/23/20 02:29 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I would think even the guy who attacked him and was the intended target of the shooting could win a lawsuit with a good lawyer.
That kind of shit happens a lot with the police. The cops actions are deemed legally justifiable but the victims still manage to sue and win.
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Re: Will there be anarchy? We will see. Seattle has an Autonomous Zone [Re: koods]
#26777036 - 06/23/20 03:01 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yah cus u guys know all the facts the case right. Thye just dropped the charges for nothing
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Re: Will there be anarchy? We will see. Seattle has an Autonomous Zone [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] 1
#26777060 - 06/23/20 03:14 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I hadn’t heard anything about it since the day it happened. They took a bunch of people to the hospital but apparently only the one guy was shot. The shooter did not have a concealed carry permit and the prosecutors said he had gone to the protest looking for trouble so I have no idea why charges were dropped. white privelege
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Re: Will there be anarchy? We will see. Seattle has an Autonomous Zone [Re: koods]
#26778145 - 06/23/20 11:42 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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koods said: I hadn’t heard anything about it since the day it happened. They took a bunch of people to the hospital but apparently only the one guy was shot. The shooter did not have a concealed carry permit and the prosecutors said he had gone to the protest looking for trouble so I have no idea why charges were dropped. white privelege
Ray Baca is his name. What makes you assume he's white? And the recipient of some kind of privilege?
Edit- Steven Ray Baca
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Re: Will there be anarchy? We will see. Seattle has an Autonomous Zone [Re: susurrador]
#26778152 - 06/23/20 11:47 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baca_family_of_New_Mexico
Seems to me he could have been there defending his Spanish heritage and family history.
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Re: Will there be anarchy? We will see. Seattle has an Autonomous Zone [Re: susurrador]
#26778158 - 06/23/20 11:50 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Anyone with the middle name of Ray is white and likely a serial killer
Seriously tho there’s plenty of video of him
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Re: Will there be anarchy? We will see. Seattle has an Autonomous Zone [Re: koods] 1
#26778172 - 06/23/20 11:57 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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He was retreating from multiple attackers, one of which was wielding a skateboard, and at least one of them was screaming that he was going to kill Baca. That's all very clear in the videos.
And it sounds like you really hate white people.
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Re: Will there be anarchy? We will see. Seattle has an Autonomous Zone [Re: susurrador] 1
#26778487 - 06/24/20 06:08 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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We only hate certain ones. Certain black people too.
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Re: Will there be anarchy? We will see. Seattle has an Autonomous Zone [Re: Brian Jones]
#26778816 - 06/24/20 09:36 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Who is 'we'?
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Re: Will there be anarchy? We will see. Seattle has an Autonomous Zone [Re: susurrador]
#26778844 - 06/24/20 09:49 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Suggesting that white people can be treated with more deference by the justice system or in general is not an implication that white people are bad. I honestly don’t know if some people are just to stupid to comprehend the nuance of issues or just an unwillingness to do so.
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Re: Will there be anarchy? We will see. Seattle has an Autonomous Zone [Re: susurrador] 2
#26778845 - 06/24/20 09:50 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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susurrador said: Who is 'we'?
Normal people
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