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Took 2g +2g + 2.3g (wet 36g) golden teacher. Couldn't trip except some drowsiness
#26735956 - 06/11/20 03:20 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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So I had the most disappointing experience ever yesterday. Me and my mate had planned to trip with a dose of around 2g dry. This was our first time tripping on shrooms. But we have multiple experiences with acid in the past.
I used a dehydrator to cracker dry the shrooms. I dried them usually for 5-6 hours, sometimes more.
We took around 2g each of dried shrooms at 4:20 PM. I had my last small meal around 3 hours prior to taking them so I was pretty much on an empty stomach. My friend said felt a little happy, similar to the onset of acid. He's usually more sensitive to stuff, so I expected it to hit me soon. But we haited till 6PM and the trip never came. We then ate another 2gms dried and an extra cap at 6:06 PM out of frustation. And then we waited till around 8 PM for the effects but again they never came. So I suspected that my dehydrator might have fucked up the fruits. It doesn't have a temp setting but i checked on amazon and somebody answered a question about the temps that the temps are around 70 C after an hour of operation. But I suspect the dryer was at wrong. Then I still had some decent sized shrroms yet to be harvested. At 8:20, I took 36 gms wet and made a milkshake with some chocolate and drank the disgusting greenish slime. I really hope to trip after this but nothing happened even after 90 mins. Around 9:30 I finally took a bong hit out of dissapointment and then ate some noodles. It felt like the onset of the trip after i settled into my dark room in front of my PC but the feeling passed in 10mins and it never came back.
This left me so dissapointed and confused. I worked hard and persevered over more than 2 months and I couldn't enjoy even one decent trip. Can anyone help in figuring out what happened? It was a multispore grow so, I understand the potency might be a bit random but I ate too many shrooms to not feel any decent effects. I take no medications and my last acid trip was over 15days ago. I smoke weed regularly though. Could it be possible that the first dose was too small and built up tolerance due to which even the wet shrooms didn't work?
TLDR: I took 2g dry a shrooms twice at an interval of two hours and then drank a milkshake with 36g wet shrooms. Didn't trip at all. The max that I felt was a little drowsy and tired.
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Re: Took 2g +2g + 2.3g (wet 36g) golden teacher. Couldn't trip except some drowsiness [Re: shroomgaard]
#26735968 - 06/11/20 03:53 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Depends on what mushroom your using.
3hr fast isn't always enough for example i have seen first hand a friend who fasted for 6hrs before hand but had a small smoothy 3hrs before he dosed, totally fucked his trip barely did much. 6hrs is a much better idea to fast for only drink water during those 6 hrs (and limited water intake 1hr before and after dosing). And don't eat for 3hrs after you dose up.
Powderizing the dry mushrooms is said to help as it helps breakdown the mushroom in your stomach quicker. A full dry mushroom would obviously take longer to digest than powder.
Mixing the mushroom powder with enough lemon/ lime juice to shot it in one go helps too (lemon tek). The idea is to let it sit in the lemon juice for 10 mins. The acid in the lemon helps to breakdown the psilocybin quicker once it reaches your stomach.
Some people that take SSRI/ SNRI antidepressants medication get very little from a normal dosed trip. [(MAOI antidepressants) tend to do the opposite.]
It is said that you should dry the shrooms on the lowest setting i use 30 degrees celcius (86F) with no issue or loss of potency.
If they shrooms were not stored correctly or exposed too long to sunlight can effect potency (breaks down psilocybin apparently) although that would probably take a long time. Freezer is always best for storage.
I think maybe you didn't fast long enough and double dosing doesn't bring the trip on quicker (generally). Double dosing that far apart would just extend/ lengthen the trip and barley intensify it much more than it already has to begin with.
That's from my experience.
I would stick with drying them. makes them easier to dose more accurately. Taking them wet isn't the best idea as the moisture content varies greatly and apparently they can lose potency if left wet for too long i.e in the fridge for an extended period of time.
35g wet would equate to 3g-3.5g dry which for some species of actives may not do much.
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Edited by Tripliping (06/11/20 03:58 AM)
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Re: Took 2g +2g + 2.3g (wet 36g) golden teacher. Couldn't trip except some drowsiness [Re: Tripliping]
#26735973 - 06/11/20 04:02 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I used golden teachers. They didn't grow much big possibly due to the genetics and multispore grow.
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Re: Took 2g +2g + 2.3g (wet 36g) golden teacher. Couldn't trip except some drowsiness [Re: shroomgaard]
#26735988 - 06/11/20 04:26 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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They're a P-cube variety i think, they wouldn't be very strong.
You'd need like 6g dry to start for a decent trip if ya fasted for 6hrs. I think if you had taken all that dry at once it would have been a good trip but only fasting 3hrs and spacing out ya doses could be your issue.
Medications can be a factor too as stated above.
i think if you had taken all that dry in one go after a 6hr fast it would have hit hard. tripping on shrooms in the dark helps too, its not like LSD. more visuals in the dark than anything, the light can be somewhat sobering (although some stuff will still wiggle and warp) in the light it's not like LSD.
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Edited by Tripliping (06/11/20 04:29 AM)
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Re: Took 2g +2g + 2.3g (wet 36g) golden teacher. Couldn't trip except some drowsiness [Re: shroomgaard]
#26736030 - 06/11/20 05:27 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mushrooms are weird. Next time try alone in silent darkness. Keep up the positive vibes and they'll come for you. 
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Re: Took 2g +2g + 2.3g (wet 36g) golden teacher. Couldn't trip except some drowsiness [Re: MrStinkyShrooman]
#26738482 - 06/12/20 01:47 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have the same problem. I've tried shrooms on 3 separate occasions and nothing happened either time. I hear some people just have a high tolerance for psilocybin.
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Re: Took 2g +2g + 2.3g (wet 36g) golden teacher. Couldn't trip except some drowsiness [Re: Psilocynical]
#26738617 - 06/12/20 04:10 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I would have to respectably disagree. People generally don't have a tolerance trust me, it normally comes down to four factors: -type of shrooms and dose (accordingly) -if they have eaten or not -medications (such as SSRI's) -tripping in the dark
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Re: Took 2g +2g + 2.3g (wet 36g) golden teacher. Couldn't trip except some drowsiness [Re: Tripliping]
#26738693 - 06/12/20 05:16 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tripliping said: I would have to respectably disagree. People generally don't have a tolerance trust me, it normally comes down to four factors: -type of shrooms and dose (accordingly) -if they have eaten or not -medications (such as SSRI's) -tripping in the dark
Does an empty stomach really affect the intensity that much? I thought it just meant it comes on faster.
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Re: Took 2g +2g + 2.3g (wet 36g) golden teacher. Couldn't trip except some drowsiness [Re: Psilocynical]
#26738707 - 06/12/20 05:25 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Depends on the ammount of food.. But any food in your stomache will extend the absorption time of the psilocybin, and therefore lead not only to a slower comeup but also to diminished effects.
Our body is very picky concerning the absorption of nutrients. Healthy nutrients (from food) are taken first, "toxic" alkaloids are right on the end of the list.
With a full stomache the complete intake/degestion of the actives can last up to two hours. That's like splitting the dose into 25 parts and then eating one part every five minutes, for two hours. Quite like an "extended release".
Empty stomache is the key.
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Re: Took 2g +2g + 2.3g (wet 36g) golden teacher. Couldn't trip except some drowsiness [Re: Pandemoon]
#26738715 - 06/12/20 05:29 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Even liquids like soft drink, smoothies etc can have an dampening effect. rule of thumb 6 hr fast water only limiting water 1 hr before and after dosing. Also after dosing i wouldn't eat for a min 3hrs. my 2cents anyway.
I know people who have be doing mushrooms for years and never actually had a proper trip due to not knowing these rules shall i say?
Powderizing dry mushrooms can help aid quicker digestion too. In conjuction with lemon tek really helps bring on a trip faster.
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Edited by Tripliping (06/12/20 05:32 AM)
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Re: Took 2g +2g + 2.3g (wet 36g) golden teacher. Couldn't trip except some drowsiness [Re: Pandemoon]
#26738759 - 06/12/20 06:05 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Pandemoon said: Depends on the ammount of food.. But any food in your stomache will extend the absorption time of the psilocybin, and therefore lead not only to a slower comeup but also to diminished effects.
Our body is very picky concerning the absorption of nutrients. Healthy nutrients (from food) are taken first, "toxic" alkaloids are right on the end of the list.
With a full stomache the complete intake/degestion of the actives can last up to two hours. That's like splitting the dose into 25 parts and then eating one part every five minutes, for two hours. Quite like an "extended release".
Empty stomache is the key.
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Really interesting, Pandemoon 
Though I did read recently somewhere that “generally speaking”, the stomach will empty meal contents 2 to 3 hours after eating, but that’s not why I’m responding! Rather, based on your post, the penny has just dropped as to what is happening......
People talk about splitting a dose into two, in case the first half is really string, then take the second half later. But is doesn’t take long after come up starts before tolerance has kicked in. So the trip doesn’t then get stronger, it gets longer. I bet same thing happens therefore if your stomach is not empty.
Suppose then it depends on when you ate, how much you ate, and what you ate. And it will then be hit and miss how much gets absorbed in that initial spell when your tolerance is still low.
Always takes me a while lol DJ Ed
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Re: Took 2g +2g + 2.3g (wet 36g) golden teacher. Couldn't trip except some drowsiness [Re: DJ Ed]
#26741275 - 06/13/20 08:02 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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what if it's tolerance from previous session (i.e. 1 or 2 days before?)
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Re: Took 2g +2g + 2.3g (wet 36g) golden teacher. Couldn't trip except some drowsiness [Re: redgreenvines]
#26742373 - 06/13/20 06:10 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks redgreenvines, I should have mentioned that, yes I would agree you could definitely build up a tolerance from previous/excessive use. If used too regularly in the short term or without a sufficient break.
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