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Re: pics [Re: Olgualion]
    #2809441 - 06/19/04 08:39 PM (15 years, 10 days ago)

humidity is high all the time according to the humidity gauge (calibrated recently) and air exchange should be enough too i think. I dont know how to be sure. the fan cleans all the air within 5 minutes the most - runs for 15 minutes with 75 minute breaks. Once after they get the fresh air, is 75 minutes too much to wait for the next air exchange? I thought I should do it so that the humidity can build up again. Because once the fan starts the hum. falls down to 60-65% within 5-10 minutes.


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Re: pics [Re: nimbus]
    #2809565 - 06/19/04 09:43 PM (15 years, 9 days ago)

>Because once the fan starts the hum. falls down to 60-65% within 5-10 minutes.Because once the fan starts the hum. falls down to 60-65% within 5-10 minutes.

There in may lie our problem. I can't say for sure, but I would bet that the humidity cycling can't be good, and is possibly the reason behind the abhorts. **edit (I know what you said is common practice and will be fine for cubies most of the time, but this is where we get to say this is a more "advanced" species)

If at all possible, don't sacrifice humidity for air exchange, or vice versa. They should work together, but at the same time be independant of one another. Luckily in the US, we can get coolmists; you could probably rig up, effectively, the same thing using the aquarium pump and perlite in the tub with some holes poked into it near the bottom for exhaust. The biggest factor will be how much air the fish pump displaces over time.


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Re: pics [Re: Olgualion]
    #2810341 - 06/20/04 03:29 AM (15 years, 9 days ago)

I went back to the air pump for a change now..got nothing to loose anyway..most of them look *ucked-up by now


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Re: pics [Re: nimbus]
    #2810800 - 06/20/04 11:12 AM (15 years, 9 days ago)

Maby this is an Idea for you.










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Re: pics [Re: nimbus]
    #2810807 - 06/20/04 11:16 AM (15 years, 9 days ago)

I think things are getting better again..slowly..
I harvested the aborted ones, some had even their veil ripped so soon..


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Re: pics [Re: Prankster239]
    #2810821 - 06/20/04 11:25 AM (15 years, 9 days ago)

wow, great idea! but wasnt that suggested for increasing humidity? I have high humidity already..But that machine would also help for air exchange, wouldnt it?
oh man..this is not as easy as it looks like sometimes..I got a bit confused by all the factors I have to think about. after this grow, which hopefully still will be something, I'll go back to cubes once more, have success and be happy :smile: after that..pan cyans again, but I want to get more experienced. this is the 4th time I grow, 1st for pans..


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Re: pics [Re: nimbus]
    #2813048 - 06/21/04 04:24 AM (15 years, 8 days ago)

so this is how they look now, I show you only one casing because this is the only one where we can see some action, there's lots of pins but no real growth - I dont know why the others havent done anything yet..2 more have just like 3-5 pins. The trays in the other terrarium (without grass seed) are still just gazing at the terrarium lid and chilling and not thinking about pinning as it seems. Humidity is high, light they have and some air exchange too. Disappointing  :sad:
I want to recase this tray after I harvest these, but should I scratch it or just apply casing without touching it? help me on this..

(btw, is the cap freed from the stem already there?)


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Re: pics [Re: nimbus]
    #2813803 - 06/21/04 01:22 PM (15 years, 8 days ago)

STOP MISTING.

Humidity should be very low. WET FEET DRY HEADS.

My casings go dry by the time they are matured. Larger caps, shorter stems, thicker stems, good spores.


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    #2813834 - 06/21/04 01:34 PM (15 years, 8 days ago)



See how the fruits are falling over from there own weight. This casing has almost expired it's internal moisture into the air, through the fruits, and casing surface. This is the result of a properly moist casing, in a rubbermaid, with the lid slightly opened at the corners and a daily fanning or two with a paper plate, manually. No moisture was added to the casing, or rubbermaid, after buttons formed.

The lid stays on and moisture is built up in the casing through misting, with daily fanning. This is done up to the time you see buttons form. Once a single button forms, I mist NO MORE. There is no humidity generating system. This casing matures on the internal moisture built up before pinning.

The lid is partially opened at the corners after button formation, to allow a RAPID evaporation rate to mature the fruits. Casing>Fruits>Air You have to judge how open the lid is left based on the speed of evaporation(related to how dry the air is in your house).


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    #2813875 - 06/21/04 01:53 PM (15 years, 8 days ago)

Yes, you also can use it without the Fog Function.
You also can build an Small Hepa Filter into the delivery air.


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    #2814632 - 06/21/04 06:11 PM (15 years, 8 days ago)

thanks so much teonan! made me feel much better  :yesnod:
and I did stop misting by now.

...and the other casings are showing signs after all!! if not so many
as the one on the pics. better than none I say...I want at least a proper print for further research  :grin:


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Re: pics [Re: nimbus]
    #2816122 - 06/22/04 05:17 AM (15 years, 7 days ago)

the casing lay alone provides a "micro-climate". I usually keep my chamber at 90+ humididty, for my casings. But I've been fine having it fall down to the 70's and bringing it back up. It's actually a good thing to let them transpire.


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Re: pics [Re: nimbus]
    #2818678 - 06/22/04 10:13 PM (15 years, 6 days ago)

I told you to listen to Teonan ....I let mine get very dry and barely misted the sides of my aquarium ...mine did wonderfull
Listen to Teonan... :smirk:


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Siamese Twins [Re: OldSpice]
    #2820641 - 06/23/04 01:26 PM (15 years, 6 days ago)

check this out:



this is the third time this happens, second time in the same casing but this is the most healthy looking example and it keeps growing despite the others.


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Re: Siamese Twins [Re: nimbus]
    #2821214 - 06/23/04 03:51 PM (15 years, 6 days ago)

That black dosent look good on those pins :blush:. But that is a funny funny shroom on the right :laugh:


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Re: Siamese Twins [Re: Redo]
    #2830519 - 06/26/04 01:27 PM (15 years, 3 days ago)

not even 1 of my shrooms matured..I get new pins everyday but they never grow longer than those in the pics and I harvest them :frown:
unsuccessful try...dont know what the main problem is

btw there is no contam..the black spots Redo saw are bruising due to abortion I think..


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Re: Siamese Twins [Re: nimbus]
    #2831687 - 06/26/04 10:06 PM (15 years, 2 days ago)

Pick the best looking one and clone it.  Try for a second flush too :smile:  You've already been more successful than you realize.


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Re: Panaeolus Cyanescens (Australian) Grow Log [Re: nimbus]
    #2831792 - 06/26/04 11:03 PM (15 years, 2 days ago)

yup dude, on my popcorn the first sign of growth is tiny white specs of mycel.


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Re: Siamese Twins [Re: nimbus]
    #2834021 - 06/27/04 06:15 PM (15 years, 2 days ago)

The black juts looks like rotting, not like contams =b.


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Re: Siamese Twins [Re: psyphon]
    #2836200 - 06/28/04 01:37 PM (15 years, 1 day ago)

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Pick the best looking one and clone it.  Try for a second flush too :smile:  You've already been more successful than you realize.




What do you mean with more successful than I realize??
I dont understand what's happening with the casings anymore. Only one of 8 casings is somewhat producing pins and thats the one on the pics I sent. Other 2 or 3 trays also try but cant..dunno why. They remain
small and die after a while. 3 of the casings havent shown any sign
yet. They're all under same conditions, I mean humidity and air exchange and light. A little frustrating..  :confused:
not even 1 mature specimen until now.
next try is mexicana A and PESA..after that pan cyan again.(?)


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