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Patching time!! [Re: Prankster239]
    #2786397 - 06/11/04 11:15 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

thanks mate!  :stoned:

today I took a look at the first 4 casings, they looked like this, then I patched the casing a little bit with very small amounts of casing:

after that, I cased the other 4 trays..one of them is the bottle I cut


the next time mycelium looks through by the 4 faster casings, I think it will be time for light and air!


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Lets pin!! [Re: nimbus]
    #2789352 - 06/13/04 05:37 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I put the first 4 casings in their terrarium now! I hope I am giving them the right conditions. An aquarium pump is pumping air into a photo-film case filled with water, just to be sure air is coming through, not for humidication. And perlite is there too. I will continue like this until pinning and then decrease humidity somehow and keep fanning like a madman!  :crazy2:




the humidity gauge says 100% !!! is that possible? or good?


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Re: Lets pin!! [Re: nimbus]
    #2789371 - 06/13/04 05:51 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Here's some information regarding pinhead initiation according to Stamets:

Relative humidity:95+%
Air temp:75-80*F
C02: 5000ppm or below
Fresh air exchanges 2 per hour
Light requirements: Diffuse natural or fluorescent grow-lights

Lets pin...lets hope so mate :wink: :thumbup:

With regards to humidity 100% is easlily possible with perlite and bubbler. I don't think you really need perlite when casing.


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Re: Lets pin!! [Re: Roger_irrelevant]
    #2789568 - 06/13/04 10:30 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

so I will open the holes on the sides (which you can see in the pic, above the humidity gauge) and check humidity again..
I am and will go on trying to do my best!


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Re: Lets pin!! [Re: nimbus]
    #2792115 - 06/14/04 12:55 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Someone heeelp mee!  :confused:
i removed all perlite from the box, opened both holes but the humidity is still 100% (it says it is more but i dont get it)
what can/should I do?
this is how the casings look like now:




you cant see it in the pics but there are very tiny water drops
among the mycelium..doesnt look nice to me, but is it OK?
tell me I am worrying without a cause  :frown:


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Re: Lets pin!! [Re: nimbus]
    #2793982 - 06/15/04 05:57 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Well if you look at the info above regarding humidity I think you're actually ok for now. What are the ambient air temps like? You will need to drop the temp by about 10* from spawn run temps. Dropping temp and increasing air exchange helps to lower humidity levels, which are probably being mantained by the damp casings and bubbler.


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Re: Lets pin!! [Re: Roger_irrelevant]
    #2794074 - 06/15/04 07:58 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)





the temperatures are 25 degrees celcius. it was 28 before casing I didnt do anything to drop it, I dont know how I could?? (it was just warmer in the closet they were waiting in because of colonization and stuff and the weather has been cooler for a few days now, too) I thought the aquarium pump was too weak for proper air exchange and bought a computer fan (8cm) and installed it near the bottom, on the side of the terrarium. I'm letting it run for 15 mins every 3-4 hours for now..(maybe I should do it more often but I am starting it manually and letting it run for a few minutes every once in a while when I am at home) Planning to increase that frequency as soon as fruiting starts to decrease humidity.
the fan really sucks out all humidity in a minute or so, so I guess I will be adding some perlite again, just a little though, to help rebuild humidity. It will be sucked away once in every hour (for 15 minutes, because that is the minimum I can set with my timer). But this is just theory, I will have to try and see.

anything wrong anyone notices with this plan?


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Re: Lets pin!! [Re: nimbus]
    #2794455 - 06/15/04 11:08 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Nimbus, I have to tell you that I think aquarium pumps are better then fan. If you know how much liter capacity you have in your grow terrarium and match a pump that puts out twice of that per hour, you can run it 24/7. Just make sure you attach a big ass stone bubbler.
See, it cant be too weak for air exchange. If you know the output of your pump then its just a matter or matching it to the right size terrarium. Thats what I think. If you htink about it you;ll realize that it cant be too weak if you use the proper pump.


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Re: Lets pin!! [Re: nimbus]
    #2794529 - 06/15/04 11:40 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

good luck, nimbus - i hope you have better success than i did in my cyan attempts.

all looks very well and ready to pin i think. i cannot see the holes you mentioned though, to drop humidity, (these would have to be at least 1x1cm to have much of an effect): you can also reduce rH by reducing the number of casings in each tub, increasing the temps, or increasing airflow.  apparently once you do see pins you just hold your breath for a couple of days and do nothing until they make it past 24h, as the perinatal mortality rate is like something out of Chad.

looking forward to some good news very soon  :thumbup:


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Re: Lets pin!! [Re: shirley knott]
    #2794661 - 06/15/04 12:25 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

thanks for advice from you guys!  :smile:

This is what everything looks like now, I made little changes:
I have 2 terrariums now with 4 casings each. (the casing with dung/verm/birdseed are ready too that means, but wanted to try to put them in the terrarium a little earlier than the first 4)
Both have a 8 cm computer fan on one end (near bottom) and another hole with polyfill
as a filter on the other (near the top). They are both 12V fans but
since I noticed they are too powerful I run them on 3V, turning 4 times slower now. Air is being nicely sucked in through the polyfill
and all the air in the terrariums is freshened within a few minutes.

As I said before, my timer can only work with 15min intervals so I let
them run for 15 minutes and wait 75 minutes until the next run. Humidity builds up again nicely within 5-10 minutes as the gauge tells me.

When fruiting starts I will (just a plan now, we'll see how it works)
run the fans for 15 minutes every 45 minutes or so which I hope will result in some decreased humidity.

This is how it looks like now:



..btw it is important to keep the casing (peat/verm) moist too, right? but how can I moisten it without having to fear I will make the mycelium layer wet? The perlite adds humidity to the air and the casing does this too but is the humidity of the air enough to keep the casing moist? I can only use a spray bottle to provide extra moisture because all else is too expensive for me right now. So can I try spraying the inside of the terrarium with a fine spray? I'm asking because it does not matter how fine the spraying is (fine to the eye though) I can see tiny droplets of water amongst the mycelium..was wondering if this is bad too?


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PINNNSSSS!! [Re: nimbus]
    #2795742 - 06/15/04 06:13 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Hey everyone! I wanted to take a closer look at the first 4 casings a few minutes ago and guess what I think I saw?!  :eek:
Pins!! on two of the casings! they are very small, not bigger than this dot: (.) maybe smaller but there is lots of them!!! I dont know..maybe 20? 30? in piles of 10s or so..maybe more, i hope more  :grin:
as soon as they are big enough to see on a pic I will post it. Is this the time to drop humidity and increase air exchange? or should I wait a little more till I can see the buttons? (i mean the part that will become the cap and looks darker, dont know if those are called buttons really?) lots of questions together with the post before this one  :smile:


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Re: PINNNSSSS!! [Re: nimbus]
    #2795987 - 06/15/04 07:48 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Wait till you have buttons, then increase air exchange, and NO misting until after you harvest mushrooms.

Wet feet, dry heads!!!


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Re: PINNNSSSS!! [Re: ]
    #2799156 - 06/16/04 03:07 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

this is how casings look like right now, only the parts with pins shown here:




i have problems with keeping the casing moist by misting because it is covered and I dont want to damage the mycelium by making it wet..feel in such a hurry to find answers because I want fruitsss!  :crazy2:

do I apply thin layer of casing every time a flush ends? I mean is keeping the casing from complete surface colonization a rule one should follow?
thanks for the patience with so many questions from me :smile:


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Re: PINNNSSSS!! [Re: nimbus]
    #2799415 - 06/16/04 04:08 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

those are knots..... hopefully pins soon - you will know them when you see them!


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Re: PINNNSSSS!! [Re: shirley knott]
    #2799451 - 06/16/04 04:19 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

most of them are knots I guess, yes..but I also saw 1-2 pins..
but as I understood from the casing FAQs, I have a problem of over colonized casing :frown:


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Re: PINNNSSSS!! [Re: nimbus]
    #2799518 - 06/16/04 04:42 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

you don't have overlay, don't worry


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Re: PINNNSSSS!! [Re: shirley knott]
    #2799870 - 06/16/04 06:32 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

anno just let me know that I know little about casings and I realized that is true..  :rolleyes: :grin:
it may not be overlay but complete colonization of the casing is not good say the casing FAQs..
I can see almost 40-50 knots and 3-5 pins already but on the completely colonized casing. Hope they will grow nicely.
I think in 24 hours or so I will be able to take a pic of them, because they'll be bigger


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Re: PINNNSSSS!! [Re: nimbus]
    #2799909 - 06/16/04 06:51 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Nimbus, I think that you'll be fine. Just ask Magash in the growing forum. He'll tell you that all his casing over colonize, and they turn out incredible. Keep it up! :wink:


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Re: PINNNSSSS!! [Re: nimbus]
    #2800658 - 06/16/04 11:08 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Follow Teonans advice...your ok with any overlay problem


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Re: PINNNSSSS!! [Re: nimbus]
    #2800715 - 06/16/04 11:19 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

def not overlayed..you can have a fully colonized casing layer without overlay bro :wink: in fact when it comes to cubensis a casing layer like yours in proper conditions will give you a sweet pinset...dunno how it works with this species tho


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