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    #26734921 - 06/10/20 05:15 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

So, a friend of mine brought up the topic and I think it offers an interesting thought experiment.
If we were to totally dismantle the current policing system and start from scratch, how would you rebuild things?

The biggest standouts for me are giving police the ability to waive government fees when someone can't pay (ie. person can't afford to update registration, instead of ticketing them and making it worse, we would waive the fee.) Additionally, they could offer more support and direct people to groups or programs that may help them get ahead.

The other is a focus on empathy. I think classes should be taught. If you have a belligerent black man causing problems during a simple traffic stop, instinct might push you to be forceful. Understanding that he may be acting that way because he's scared out of his mind can allow for reassurance to calm the guy down. That, alone can save lives.

What are you thoughts? Keep it the same? Change some things? I'm curious to hear


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Re: Restructuring the Police [Re: Darwin23] * 1
    #26735435 - 06/10/20 08:36 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Great idea! Restructuring the Police Force is an excellent idea. This thing I would do is teach cops NOT to shoot to kill! Cause thats how they are trained. Also giving cops less lethal guns would be nice (0.22 maybe?) or just have advanced electro-shock weapons or flash bang guns or anything non-lethal really.

Really like the empathy direction. Cops should also take classes about Paychology and Mental Illinesses so they better understand people who are "out of control".

Also some in-depth drug learning classes would be nice too.

The Police State we currently have needs to go! People are dieing every year from cops and their ruthless excercise of power. I saw a statistic that 1,000 died from cops last year. This is unacceptable. The Police Force needs to be decomissioned and re-structured completely.


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Re: Restructuring the Police [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26736503 - 06/11/20 10:33 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I've been thinking of this recently and here it is

Start by making every cop reapply for their job and increase standards/prerequisites.
Every incident will come under scrutiny; every weapon discharge, every misconduct allegation, everything.

They have to retake their tests, training, and psych evaluation. Lots of cops will
not make it back to the force after this. For the ones that do make it and all that
want to apply in the future, a "term limit" will be applied. Each cop can serve
2 years before having to reapply for their job with the same standards layed out above.

Decrease power granted to police unions, decrease powers of immunity granted to police,
severely decrease if not stop altogether the militarization of police. Money saved
can be spent on education and mental health which should help decrease the need for a militarized police force.

To make sure the above are enforced without corruption we need state gov. run
organizations of single term elected officials to oversee the policing of police forces in the state.

Making them single term will ensure that they cannot be corrupted when seeking reelection
or even if they are corrupted we know new blood will make it in soon. They are not
responsible for anything other than ensuring police forces adhere to the above framework.

Just some ideas as a start nothing really fleshed out yet


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Re: Restructuring the Police [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26737165 - 06/11/20 04:18 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

End qualified immunity.
Reform the criminal justice system (for profit prisons, not jailing people for non-violent victimless crimes).
End quotas.


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Re: Restructuring the Police [Re: CrazyDragon]
    #26737288 - 06/11/20 05:18 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

All I'm seeing now is the police deciding their own reforms. Why are the police in charge of reforming themselves?  It's not different than police investigating themselves every time a cop breaks the law in the line of duty. Most of the time, the response to a cop violation remains private and the public that pay them have no access to the record.


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