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Re: Jimmy Dore Love! Funny and moderate! [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #26732678 - 06/09/20 08:50 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Thermite be a problem here




  Paint chips bra , the reddish orange paint they put on the iron to keep it from rusting .  That’s what that dude found .


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Re: Jimmy Dore Love! Funny and moderate! [Re: Psilynut2]
    #26732809 - 06/09/20 09:41 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Of course, we'd never know since they can't really verify where their samples came from and have refused to give them to any other scientists to verify their results.  Even then, they only claimed to have found "thermitic material" which basically doesn't mean shit.


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Re: Jimmy Dore Love! Funny and moderate! [Re: Psilynut2] * 1
    #26734239 - 06/10/20 12:09 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Questioning the speculative 9/11 narrative reported by the government now disqualifies a person from future political opinions?




  Isn’t giving us opinions what qualifies cnn as fake news ?




There's a difference of stating an opinion as fact and just stating an opinion. CNN doesn't qualify their opinions as just opinion, therefore the appropriate label of Fake News.

After the RussiaGate disaster, CNN and MSNBC claimed all they were doing was just offering their speculative opinions on the subject matter and harsh scrutiny of their coverage wasn't warranted. They completely disassociated themselves of the responsibility of reporting factual news. :lol:

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Re: Jimmy Dore Love! Funny and moderate! [Re: qman]
    #26734250 - 06/10/20 12:13 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

How is it their responsibility ? Who gave them that ?  And why don’t you hold Dore to the same standard ? Does he always qualify his opinions as just opinions ? And how would it still not be fake news anyway ?


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Re: Jimmy Dore Love! Funny and moderate! [Re: Psilynut2]
    #26734271 - 06/10/20 12:22 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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How is it their responsibility ?



Do you think news should offer opinions that aren't backed by facts?

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And why don’t you hold Dore to the same standard ? Does he always qualify his opinions as just opinions ?



He's generally pretty good about that yes.  Maybe over a decade ago before people knew him, he shouldn't have said that he doesn't agree with the official 9/11 story, but he's put out a TON of content since then, yet we always go back to that.

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And how would it still not be fake news anyway ?



Is there evidence Trump colluded with Russia?  Or evidence Assad gassed Douma?  Etc...?

It was fake news, and Jimmy Dore called it out.


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Re: Jimmy Dore Love! Funny and moderate! [Re: Psilynut2] * 1
    #26734279 - 06/10/20 12:26 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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How is it their responsibility ? Who gave them that ?  And why don’t you hold Dore to the same standard ? Does he always qualify his opinions as just opinions ? And how would it still not be fake news anyway ?




It's not their responsibility until they admit/apologize that they were reporting opinions on Russiagate and people may have misinterpreted it as facts. We all know that they reported these "opinions" as facts and they're just trying to make excuses for it now.

As far as Dore is concerned, I can't say for sure whether he always qualifies his opinions as just opinions. I have heard him do it before, but that doesn't mean he hasn't in the past. My guess is that he has passed his opinions as facts in the past because sloppy journalism happens to everyone in the industry. Is he more honest about it than the MSM, absolutely.

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Re: Jimmy Dore Love! Funny and moderate! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26734280 - 06/10/20 12:27 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

What I’m saying is jimmy Dore just gives us his opinion , he doesn’t have teams of people that show up and talk to witnesses and interview law enforcement , he’s watches the news and then he gives you his opinion , about other people’s work .
  That’s the definition of fake news , according to you and qman .


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Re: Jimmy Dore Love! Funny and moderate! [Re: qman]
    #26734284 - 06/10/20 12:28 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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It's not their responsibility until they admit/apologize that they were reporting opinions on Russiagate and people may have misinterpreted it as facts. We all know that they reported these "opinions" as facts and they're just trying to make excuses for it now.




Cool , post some videos of that happening then .

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I have heard him do it before, but that doesn't mean he hasn't in the past. My gu



Cool , let’s see some vids of him doing that .


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Re: Jimmy Dore Love! Funny and moderate! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26734304 - 06/10/20 12:35 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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How is it their responsibility ?



Do you think news should offer opinions that aren't backed with facts




You’re spending a lot of time defending trumps tweet parroting a story on OAN that isn’t backed up by facts. You actually do it all the time. You have a different standard for things you want to believe.


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Re: Jimmy Dore Love! Funny and moderate! [Re: Psilynut2]
    #26734352 - 06/10/20 12:53 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I'm not defending Trump's tweet.  I even agreed it was a terrible response from Trump.

I'm attacking you for make believing he retweeted it from a Sputnik radio broadcast.  That was fake news, no matter how much you try to twist it.


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Re: Jimmy Dore Love! Funny and moderate! [Re: Psilynut2]
    #26734362 - 06/10/20 12:54 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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It's not their responsibility until they admit/apologize that they were reporting opinions on Russiagate and people may have misinterpreted it as facts. We all know that they reported these "opinions" as facts and they're just trying to make excuses for it now.



Cool , post some videos of that happening then .



So you knew all along it was just opinion while you were posting it as fact in our previous Russia debates?  :facepalm3:


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Re: Jimmy Dore Love! Funny and moderate! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26734364 - 06/10/20 12:55 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Attacking me doesn’t require you to question the legitimacy of charges against the cops

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Re: Jimmy Dore Love! Funny and moderate! [Re: koods]
    #26734388 - 06/10/20 01:01 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Again, I don't know if it's acceptable for people to walk up to cops and wave their hands across their bodies without the cop's approval.

I don't think that's ok, but I'm not a lawyer, and I could be wrong.


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Re: Jimmy Dore Love! Funny and moderate! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26734396 - 06/10/20 01:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

What a brave stance.


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Re: Jimmy Dore Love! Funny and moderate! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26734416 - 06/10/20 01:16 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Again, I don't know if it's acceptable for people to walk up to cops and wave their hands across their bodies without the cop's approval.

I don't think that's ok, but I'm not a lawyer, and I could be wrong.



It doesn't matter if it's ok...That's irrelevant.  You don't get to push people because they invade your personal space.  Imagine a NYC subway if you could.


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Re: Jimmy Dore Love! Funny and moderate! [Re: Enlil]
    #26734459 - 06/10/20 01:34 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I don't get to, but do cops?  Can I wave my hands across an armed cop and expect not to be pushed away?

You can call the question stupid, since I'm not a lawyer, but I don't know the answer.


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Re: Jimmy Dore Love! Funny and moderate! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26734566 - 06/10/20 02:16 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Cops don't have any extra right to assault people.  Cops don't have any extra right to personal space.  Cops operate under the same laws we do.  Cops have a legal authority to do certain things, such as arrest someone, under certain circumstances.  That's it.  Otherwise, their use of force is analyzed exactly the same as yours would be.



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Re: Jimmy Dore Love! Funny and moderate! [Re: Enlil]
    #26734598 - 06/10/20 02:33 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

So can I wave my hands across an armed cop and expect not to be pushed away?


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Re: Jimmy Dore Love! Funny and moderate! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26734665 - 06/10/20 03:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I would say it depends on wether or not your trying to jam police communications ...


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Re: Jimmy Dore Love! Funny and moderate! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26734675 - 06/10/20 03:12 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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So can I wave my hands across an armed cop and expect not to be pushed away?



No.  You can expect the cop to act like a thug and push you.  If you're black, you can expect to be choked out.  That doesn't make either action by the cop legal or right, though.


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