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Re: Should the US disarm the Police like the UK? [Re: Seriously_trippin] * 2
    #26736117 - 06/11/20 07:00 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I didn't say traffic stops aren't dangerous.  They're just far more dangerous for the civilian than they are for the cop.


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Re: Should the US disarm the Police like the UK? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #26736193 - 06/11/20 07:56 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I vote Yes. Disarming the police is the first step to police reform.




Did you know that while the police were put on standby during the riots in Chicago, that the Windy City had the worst homicide rate in almost 50 years?




If that happened 40 times out 50 times it would be worth discussing. But nobody is saying that police shouldn’t have guns when it comes to violent criminals. The obvious tone is that during the vast majority of encounters cops simply don’t need a gun.


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Re: Should the US disarm the Police like the UK? [Re: christopera]
    #26736396 - 06/11/20 09:53 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Should the US disarm the Police like the UK? [Re: split_by_nine]
    #26737170 - 06/11/20 04:19 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Not sure. There's more important reforms that should be done first. Disarming the police wouldn't have saved George Floyd from Chauvin's neck.


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Re: Should the US disarm the Police like the UK? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #26737238 - 06/11/20 04:51 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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That is essentially how most of europe is, no?  Like, if you're just out writing tickets and harassing people you get a billy-club and if you run into a problem that requires more than that you phone it in.




Er, no.  All European police I've ever seen (Portugal, Netherlands, Belgium, Greece, Russia and more) carry pistols routinely. What they get that US cops don't seem to is training in conflict management and de-escalation techniques, so they hardly ever have to draw their weapons. If they're up against armed criminals they'd usually call for the equivalent of SWAT teams as backup.

British police are just about the only ones who don't routinely carry guns that I know of, but they can also call on armed backup if needed.


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Re: Should the US disarm the Police like the UK? [Re: TOTLGA]
    #26737278 - 06/11/20 05:14 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Should the US disarm the Police like the UK? [Re: CrazyDragon]
    #26737695 - 06/11/20 07:26 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Not sure. There's more important reforms that should be done first. Disarming the police wouldn't have saved George Floyd's neck from Chauvin.




we cant say it would have or not. if we had a separate task force that responds to suspected, non-violent criminal activity then maybe they could have asked Mr. Floyd where this alleged counterfeit bill came from. instead the call went to a warrior-trained cop whom was training the other three and they killed Mr. Floyd.


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Re: Should the US disarm the Police like the UK? [Re: split_by_nine]
    #26737832 - 06/11/20 08:07 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

To protect da serfs: Cops show got cancelled, and now this:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1230191

Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot said she was enraged after watching a video of police officers relaxing in a congressman’s campaign office as looting occurred in the South Side.

Illinois Rep. Bobby Rush received a call that the office had been burglarized almost two weeks ago. Security footage didn't show burglars — but about eight officers “lounging” in the office, the Democrat said in a joint press conference with the mayor on Thursday.


“They had their feet up on the desk, one was asleep on my couch in my campaign office,” Rush said. “One had his head down on his desk. One was on his cell phone. They even had the unmitigated gall to go and make coffee for themselves and to pop popcorn, my popcorn, in my microwave.”


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