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Re: What is the craziest conspiracy theory you have heard in person? [Re: Niffla] * 1
    #26733884 - 06/10/20 09:15 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

He didn't see it being faked with his own two eyes either though presumably.

In theory radiometric dating can be spoofed. But the whole "why bother going to this gigantic effort worldwide" thing does not seem to be a red flag for the believers. Same with flat earth.


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Re: What is the craziest conspiracy theory you have heard in person? [Re: psi] * 2
    #26733886 - 06/10/20 09:16 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: What is the craziest conspiracy theory you have heard in person? [Re: psi] * 3
    #26733895 - 06/10/20 09:23 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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He didn't see it being faked with his own two eyes either though presumably.

In theory radiometric dating can be spoofed. But the whole "why bother going to this gigantic effort worldwide" thing does not seem to be a red flag for the believers. Same with flat earth.





Same with a lot of people that think the government is tracking them.

It gets hairier, because yes, the government is tracking you, but chances are they don't give a single solitary fuck about you and all that data is being warehoused on a massive scale. One day we will be able to efficiently comb through it for whatever we want though to an even greater degree, and unless we start viewing privacy as a fundamental human right here in the states it's gonna get fucky.

https://whitehouse.gov1.info/nsa/


But like, people who get super paranoid thinking that a they're getting sent 'hints' and 'symbols' and that the person that flashed their highbeams at them is actually a government agent...and in fact everyone who has their headlights on during the day is in on it and use that to signal that to one another.....it's like, any logical person could refute this by simply taking stock of the logistical nightmare this would be. And all for what?


We really need to sort our shit out with mental health(and privacy, I'm sure that if our government wasn't up everyone's asses then these people might be able to be more treatable). We have never gotten it right as long as we've been a country. Idk if Canada has done any better, but I imagine it is more accessible to people who otherwise might not be able to afford private treatment.


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Re: What is the craziest conspiracy theory you have heard in person? [Re: pirate-blues]
    #26733913 - 06/10/20 09:34 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Same with a lot of people that think the government is tracking them.

It gets hairier, because yes, the government is tracking you, but chances are they don't give a single solitary fuck about you and all that data is being warehoused on a massive scale. One day we will be able to efficiently comb through it for whatever we want though, and unless we start viewing privacy as a fundamental human right here in the states it's gonna get fucky.



But like, people who get super paranoid thinking that a they're getting sent 'hints' and 'symbols' and that the person that flashed their highbeams at them is actually a government agent...




I always find it comical when people think the government is watching them. And like you said, I think we all believe that the government will absolutely watch you if you're a big enough threat or deep enough into an illegal activity. But barring either of those, for the other 97% of us, the government does not give two fucks what you're doing. They don't have the time. Like even my own mother for fuck's sake. She got rid of her Amazon Alexa because of the stories out there about how the government would listen in on you through that. My mom is probably the most law abiding citizen on earth. She won't even roll through a fucking stop sign. I tried to tell her that she's arguably the last person in this country who the government would watch (or listen to) but she got rid of her Amazon dot anyway :lol:

I also know people who cover up their laptop cameras with tape because the government might be watching them. Yeah man I'm sure the government is interested in seeing you watch YouTube or seeing what you look like while you masturbate. Fuck outta here.


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Re: What is the craziest conspiracy theory you have heard in person? [Re: Niffla]
    #26733918 - 06/10/20 09:36 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Flat Earth takes the Cake for me. I don't think we really went to the Moon, and I got into a conversation about it with someone while on a job site. This MOFO actually wrote "FE" on his hand as if he couldn't say it out loud. People really believe that shit..


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Re: What is the craziest conspiracy theory you have heard in person? [Re: Magicman69]
    #26733931 - 06/10/20 09:42 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I don't think we really went to the Moon




My thing about the moon landing is, wouldn't have Russia been vehement about us (not) landing there? Or idk, maybe they were. I'm not exactly a moon landing expert. But I was just thinking (because we were in competition with them) that they would be shouting from the rooftops to this day how we faked it.


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Re: What is the craziest conspiracy theory you have heard in person? [Re: Niffla] * 1
    #26733935 - 06/10/20 09:43 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I have a spook laptop with no camera or mic. Didn't even come with wifi. Cancelled institutional order maybe, they had a ton of Thinkpads with this configuration.


IMO surveillance concerns are more realistic though. We should all be worried about that, even if one is individually unlikely to be of interest.


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Re: What is the craziest conspiracy theory you have heard in person? [Re: Niffla] * 1
    #26733956 - 06/10/20 09:53 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I don't think we really went to the Moon




My thing about the moon landing is, wouldn't have Russia been vehement about us (not) landing there? Or idk, maybe they were. I'm not exactly a moon landing expert. But I was just thinking (because we were in competition with them) that they would be shouting from the rooftops to this day how we faked it.



That's a good point.

My logic for believing this is true is the timeline. In 1960 we had no Space Program whatsoever. We had never sent anyone even into Orbit. Less than 9 years later we were live streaming a perfect Moon walk during the cold war on our first attempt?

Now we still can't go 50 years later, but they did it in under 9 years starting from scratch? We have 100x their technology today and IDK if we could go in under 9 years. Doesn't add up.


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Re: What is the craziest conspiracy theory you have heard in person? [Re: Niffla] * 2
    #26733966 - 06/10/20 09:57 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I think it's more likely they went and wanted us to question if they did because it's then easier to doubt whether they found anything they don't want to tell you. The moon is weird. It has several strange properties and many strange accounts coming from astronauts as well as things like audio taken during missions. Also if you put this sphere of conspiracy over subject you make people categorize you and then judge you on the subject based on previous interactions. There seemed to be decent proof they went to the moon. If I remember correctly folks with access to good telescopes could see the thing. So that's two good reasons some people get so pissed when they hear anyone questioning the moon landings. Facts and social grouping. So if I say, the moon has been theorized to be hollow, someone who is adamantly pro-moonlanding would assume I'm then anti-moonlanding and then judge whatever else I'm about to say as a measurement of, "Okay how stupid is this going to be?" Rather than pure interest. To their credit, a lot of information has been disseminated, and that's good.. But it's funkier than they admit. Guarantee. It's literally the perfect place to perch and have a gander at a bunch of fucking monkeys :lol: you know.. if there's anyone out there wanting to do so. That's where they'd go


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Re: What is the craziest conspiracy theory you have heard in person? [Re: psi] * 2
    #26733970 - 06/10/20 09:57 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I have a spook laptop with no camera or mic. Didn't even come with wifi. Cancelled institutional order maybe, they had a ton of Thinkpads with this configuration.


IMO surveillance concerns are more realistic though. We should all be worried about that, even if one is individually unlikely to be of interest.




Oh I agree, and it's unquestionably a blatant invasion of privacy. It's a frightening thought no question. I just find it funny when the totally average joe who just works a nine to five thinks the government is watching him. Like myself. My life is boring as fuck. I'm a total square. Outside of my occasional psychedelic use and even less occasional toke of weed (which hasn't be decriminalized in my area), I don't do anything illegal. So I can guarantee that the government isn't wasting time and resources on my bum ass. I think one would have to be pretty high up the list of importance when it came to national security for one's name to even get within 100 miles of the govt's radar.


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Re: What is the craziest conspiracy theory you have heard in person? [Re: Niffla] * 5
    #26733990 - 06/10/20 10:06 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I remember shortly after 9/11, my family was living in the NYC metro, and I had my first 'UFO' sighting. I was just a little kid having a sleepover, this was 2001 or 2002 and I saw all these crazy flashing lights around my neighbors rooftop and windows. My neighbor was a black dude who was in lower Manhattan when the planes hit and was temporarily blinded from it. Nice guy, I played with his kids all the time. Me and my friend were going crazy over these 'aliens' and we excitedly woke my parents up and were just jubilant ignorant little shits and that was that.


I forgot about it years later until the first commercial drone. And read in the Snowden leak they surveilled innocent people in the NYC area after 9/11 - particularly Muslim Americans. I have zero doubts in my head now that it was a military drone and we just had no clue back then.

https://www.theverge.com/2014/7/9/5835772/snowden-leak-confirms-us-spied-on-american-muslims



So I wouldn't be so sure. The gubment gets some funny ideas about who's important and who's not.


Ah shit I'm posting my own conspiracy theory in a thread about crazy conspiracy theories.


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Re: What is the craziest conspiracy theory you have heard in person? [Re: pirate-blues] * 2
    #26734022 - 06/10/20 10:28 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Thats pretty interesting!

Never heard of NSA drone sightings before. Do u remember what color the light was? Did anything electronical start acting weird? Did you experience any missing time?

Theres actually a famous UFO abduction from New York I think. Witnesses actual saw someone floating in the air inside a beam of light. Its one of the few stories of people witnessing an alien abduction in real time (the other being Travis Walton).

I find the Reptilian shapeshifters to be pretty "common" so to speak. It seems a lot of people who are into conspiracy theories believe this.
Then Marvel puts out some recent movies that feature shape-shifting Reptilians and Im like "Hmmmm, thats weird".

It would seem that the Reptilian Shapeshifters Theory is based on stories from UFOlogy about Dulce and other underground alien-military bases and that Reptilians are "running the show" down there and the human military take orders from them. Its pretty far out stuff but i believe it. Not sure on the shapeshifting political figures thou!


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Re: What is the craziest conspiracy theory you have heard in person? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26734037 - 06/10/20 10:35 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

No missing time, no weird stuff, the lights were read and green iirc, looked exactly like any drone we just had never seen anything like it before as random citizens. We were pretty close by too.

I just talked to my mom about it and she remembers it, and she thinks that if it was government surveillance they were probably surveilling the whole neighborhood because we had a lot of Muslim families and folks from abroad.


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Re: What is the craziest conspiracy theory you have heard in person? [Re: pirate-blues]
    #26734433 - 06/10/20 01:22 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

The entire career of Steven M. Greer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_M._Greer

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Re: What is the craziest conspiracy theory you have heard in person? [Re: pirate-blues] * 1
    #26734571 - 06/10/20 02:22 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I read a long time a go some televangelist or high profile preacher said "jesus put the dinosaur bones in the ground to test our faith" or something like that.:rolleyes:


https://www.bibleandscience.com/science/ageofearth.htm
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In 1857 Phillip Gosse wrote Omphalos which means "belly button" in Greek. This was at the time when geologists were saying the earth is very old. He believed that God created the earth to look old. It would have the appearance of age. Adam would have been created as an adult with a belly button. Adult trees would have tree rings.

Some believe that God created all these fossil bones of animals that never really lived in order to test our faith in God. Some believe that scientists are putting these fossil bones together wrong and create monster dinosaurs that never really existed. Others say that Satan created these fossils in order to deceive us.

Are the fossils we find in the ground from real animals or are they fake created by God to test us? Most in the young-earth movement would say that fossils are of real animals which Noah’s flood destroyed. Most dinosaurs were buried and turned into fossils as a result of Noah’s flood.

Is the "Appearance of Age Theory" valid? Only if you make God a deceiver. Why would God go to all this trouble to deceive us? It would be better to blame it on Satan, but he is not given the power to create the world unless one believes in gnosticism.

First of all, in Genesis 1:11 the Hebrew word avD means young budding plants, not full grown plants or trees (Westermann, 124). Generally avD describes budding young plants of which there are two kinds, plants that are small, and trees which are large. So Genesis 1:11 clearly indicates that there was no appearance of full grown plants and trees.

Now let us look at the supposed evidence of a young earth.


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Re: What is the craziest conspiracy theory you have heard in person? [Re: The Blind Ass] * 1
    #26734578 - 06/10/20 02:25 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

My parents saw a UFO once, up close. They were apparently near a field, driving somewhere and a UFO stopped near them, floated in the air a few seconds and then left. They're sure it was real because other people from town said they saw something without being asked. Crazy stuff. My dad apparently also lived with a ghost for a while, had a friend sleep over because he was wasted, he woke up in the middle of the night and flipped out about the old lady in the corner staring at him.

As far as blocking cameras, I'm more worried about some random hacker trying to sextort me or be creepy, not really the government. Although the goernment here has used pegasus spyware on journalists they didn't like before and I don't doubt they would use it to spy on their spouses, as have american and german intelligence agency members.

Sad to hear that Logical Chaos :sad:


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Re: What is the craziest conspiracy theory you have heard in person? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26734585 - 06/10/20 02:27 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

This is the people they want in charge of shit, no wonder things are all fucked up!


https://newrepublic.com/article/77707/odonnell-carbon-dating-bogus
CHRISTINE O'DONNELL, Concerned Women for America: Well, as the senator from Tennessee (it fucking figures!) mentioned, evolution is a theory and it's exactly that. There is not enough evidence, consistent evidence to make it as fact, and I say that because for theory to become a fact, it needs to consistently have the same results after it goes through a series of tests. The tests that they put — that they use to support evolution do not have consistent results. Now too many people are blindly accepting evolution as fact. But when you get down to the hard evidence, it's merely a theory. But creation —

This is a good time to be crassly commercial and plug TNR contributor Jerry Coyne's excellent book Why Evolution Is True, which explains quite clearly that evolution does "consistently have the same results after it goes through a series of tests." That's why it's widely accepted as fact by scientists. Anyway, here's where O'Donnell gets nutty:

CHRISTINE O'DONNELL: Now, he said that it's based on fact. I just want to point out a couple things. First of all, they use carbon dating, as an example, to prove that something was millions of years old. Well, we have the eruption of Mt. Saint Helens and the carbon dating test that they used then would have to then prove that these were hundreds of millions of years younger, when what happened was they had the exact same results on the fossils and canyons that they did the tests on that were supposedly 100 millions of years old. And it's the kind of inconsistent tests like this that they're basing their 'facts' on.

And:


CHRISTINE O'DONNELL: Well, creationism, in essence, is believing that the world began as the Bible in Genesis says, that God created the Earth in six days, six 24-hour periods. And there is just as much, if not more, evidence supporting that.

Remember, kids, fossils were placed there by Satan to test us.


How in the fuck do these people get in high positions/offices???:confused:


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Re: What is the craziest conspiracy theory you have heard in person? [Re: ninja cat 09] * 1
    #26734736 - 06/10/20 03:46 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks man. Appreciated.  Did your parents get a good look at the shape of the UFO? Do you remember what type of shape it had? That ghost experience is pretty interesting. Ive had quote a few ghost experiences. Very unique and unusual. I gotta gwt back to those haunted areas again....

Pirate-blues, yeah ir does sound like the Nav lights on a drone, thats for sure. I wonder what it was scanning/recording :strokebeard:


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Re: What is the craziest conspiracy theory you have heard in person? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26735802 - 06/10/20 11:59 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I admire schizophrenic peepz :heart:


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Re: What is the craziest conspiracy theory you have heard in person? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26736935 - 06/11/20 02:13 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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The entire career of Steven M. Greer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_M._Greer

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Greer is either a realllly good actor or a pathological liar, or both. :lol:


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