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Re: If all women had just one child [Re: Rahz]
    #26723863 - 06/06/20 11:04 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I am a third child in a family of 4 boys, but I do think the max number of children should be 2 max, even though that means I would not exist.

the cultural problems of the Chinese were surmountable even as many did strange and sometimes inhumane things to face the challenge.
Many late blooming mothers to be cannot carry a term pregnancy because they waited too long, so I am not that worried about educated and late starting first world people.
I do worry about child mothers who are not yet 18. Areas where that are happening need a lot of help.

more sex, less babies, we have to figure it out.


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Re: If all women had just one child [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26725124 - 06/06/20 09:57 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

The Western world does have less babies. 50% more or less, choose or are unable to have children.

So maybe others choosing to have more than two is not a problem.

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Re: If all women had just one child [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26725220 - 06/06/20 11:33 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

At the expense of offending only childs... Such a policy makes environmental science, but all those people would be so damn spoiled it's not even funny. You need some brothers and sisters to fight with. And if you tried doing that shit in the community they lock you up... I know I tried and I've been locked up.


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Re: If all women had just one child [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #26725621 - 06/07/20 04:32 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Yes brothers and sisters are important, but that is a part of the sacrifice. That is one thing keeping from people having only one child: they want the child a sibling at home to play with. I know I would if I had a child. Maybe living in a neighborhood with lots of kids would help. The parents really need to be active on that part. If population was stabilised to so it wouldn't grow anymore then everyone could go back to having two kids, some even three. I was thinking yesterday that the worst place to have children and especially without planning for them is some huge city like Sao Paulo or, where that child will grow up and might get stuck in that environment due to poverty or something. Working some shitty job and sitting in the rushhour traffic or using crowded buses for hours or whatever. How many people live lives like that just stuck in the daily grind of a big city with no escape. Just have to surrender... Huge cities are the worst example of overpopulation. Nobody is happy in there except the wealthy who can live in some nice neighborhood. That's what I think anyways..


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Re: If all women had just one child [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26725653 - 06/07/20 05:13 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Didn't the Japanese gov't, for example, decree a limit on how many children a responsible couple could have?

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      "A two-children policy is a government-imposed limit of two children allowed per family or the payment of government subsidies only to the first two children. It has previously been used in Vietnam. In British Hong Kong in the 1970s, citizens were also highly encouraged to have two children as a limit (although it was not mandated by law), and it was used as part of the region's family planning strategies. Since 2016, it has been re-implemented in China, replacing the country's previous one-child policy." Wiki




Well at least you edited it. Japan has very low birthrates by choice, as does every other advanced country.


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Re: If all women had just one child [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26725658 - 06/07/20 05:18 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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more sex, less babies, we have to figure it out.




Now were getting somewhere, and the figuring it out is birth control, and it doesn't have the failure rates that are reported. It most often fails because people only practice birth control some of the time.


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Re: If all women had just one child [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26725841 - 06/07/20 07:51 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

nah uhh,
birth control is not providing more sex, just less babies.
maybe less aging - except that counters the over pop control


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Re: If all women had just one child [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26728000 - 06/08/20 02:47 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: If all women had just one child [Re: Moses_Davidson]
    #26728139 - 06/08/20 05:35 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Humanity will never be able to "fix the dream".  Fix one problem and another one pops up, that's the point.  Native Americans had it pretty good but disease, famine often killed them.  Fix those problems and you get overpopulation.  So we complain about too many people, then we complain that it's not right when they get killed.  We are never happy :lol:

Best we can do is accept the natural world the way it is, the more we intervene the more we just fuck it up.  So imposing another rule to fix 5000 other rules we made up is insane if you ask me.  Sure, it all works in theory, but never in practice.




What if we could increase the carrying capacity of the earth? Now... this is not a lot of fun, but what if we worked towards switching society to a plant-based diet, with meat used as a garnish instead of the main course. We could have 75% more farmland & food production capacity, and it would postpone our overpopulation problems.




      "In one year, a single acre of black soldier fly larvae can produce more protein than 3,000 acres of cattle or 130 acres of soybeans. Such yields, combined with the need to find cheap, reliable protein for a global population projected to jump 30 percent, to 9.8 billion by 2050"-Washington Post

      "Back at Symton, Taranow pops a couple of oven-dried soldier fly larvae into her mouth. “Honestly, they taste like Fritos,” she said.
They have a pleasant, neutral, nutty flavor to them. Slather them in powdered ranch or barbecue seasoning and it’s easy to imagine bags of them flying off the shelves in truck stops and convenience stores."


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Re: If all women had just one child [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26728392 - 06/08/20 08:21 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Eating bugs is in our future almost definitely, I think.  Might as well get used to it :crazy2:


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Re: If all women had just one child [Re: Forrester]
    #26728404 - 06/08/20 08:28 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

There was this cricket boom on the market in recent years but now they have vanished since the companies went bankrupt or ended that business. They were freaking expensive, plus the unappealing nature of fried crickets.


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Re: If all women had just one child [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26728641 - 06/08/20 10:33 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

lots of locusts now in Africa,
good bugs for eating, so I've read.

and they are kosher!


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Re: If all women had just one child [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26728760 - 06/08/20 11:42 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Crickets are pretty good.  Just crunchy, and the guts all dry up in the cooking.  It's stuff with squishy guts that grosses me out...

Yeah they are expensive, because not many companies make them.  It can't be that expensive to farm bugs at all.  Crickets eat toilet paper rolls, you don't even have to feed them!


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Re: If all women had just one child [Re: Forrester]
    #26729356 - 06/08/20 04:45 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I wish to be reincarnated into a universe that has bugs the size of the ones from Starship Troopers. 



Like those bug ginormous.


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Re: If all women had just one child [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26729683 - 06/08/20 06:52 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: If all women had just one child [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26730248 - 06/08/20 11:15 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Now thats a top lobster


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Re: If all women had just one child [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26730271 - 06/08/20 11:31 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I wonder how big they could get if they were ever selectively bred to maximize size & pumped full of growth hormones & steroids . 
Scratch that, nowadays I bet someone could just tinker with its DNA to make a monster sized crustacean...or a real life Pokémon.


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Re: If all women had just one child [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26730514 - 06/09/20 04:07 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Lobster and kipper = my choice of a last meal, with a slice of watermelon topped with ketchup or catsup.


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Re: If all women had just one child [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26730977 - 06/09/20 09:55 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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I wonder how big they could get if they were ever selectively bred to maximize size & pumped full of growth hormones & steroids . 
Scratch that, nowadays I bet someone could just tinker with its DNA to make a monster sized crustacean...or a real life Pokémon.



It's a crayfish, but no matter, close.

anyway, I think that the body design precludes genetic tampering to produce larger versions due to the physics of the exoskeletons that are thicker when larger to maintain rigidity against which the muscles pull.
miniature internal muscles cannot move 50 pound chelipeds (claws etc.)

Imagine turning an elephant inside out - covering it with heavy self supporting chitin. It would be unable to move.


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Re: If all women had just one child [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26731080 - 06/09/20 10:38 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Speaking of Oliphants...check out this guy’s bling :smirk:



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