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yremoorhS
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Please, help me, overcome my weird experience with LSD
#26729259 - 06/08/20 04:01 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I (35/m) had an embarrassing experience, while on LSD, back in 2012, that resulted in a bad trip and it has been ruining every trip that I've attempted since then.
Back in 2012, I decided to try LSD for the first time. Before that I've only tried mushrooms once, around 5 years earlier and it's been a totally positive experience for me.
Long story short, me and 3 other people - my very close friend and two of his acquaintances, that I've met a few times before, have gathered in one of said acquaintances apartments and took the tabs.
Initially everything was going perfect - I was having beautiful, open-eyed visuals and was generally experiencing happiness and positivity. After around an hour I dozed off and quite embarrassingly, I've shit my pants.
When I came back to concsiousness, I found myself naked, laying in the shower, with shit smeared all over my body and I started to freak out - I was panicking as I had no idea, what was happening or where I was; at some point I became really paranoid and was convinced, that I was captured in some kind of prison and when one of said acquaintances opened the bathroom, I was convinced, that he was a prison guard, intending to torture me, or rape me and I've entered physical altercation with him. After awhile, I've gained enough sense to calm down and my friend dropped me off at home.
After that experience, I've tried LSD a handful of time, with long intervals inbetween and every single time I'm having the same experience - acid starts to kick in, while I'm laughing and having a great time and then, at some point, my mind shuts off from the outside world and I enter this weird, hypnotic state, where I periodically drift in and out of concsiousness and at the same time, am somehow still able to walk around, follow my friends on a journey, have very simple conversations with them.. basically from outside it looks like I'm sleep-walking with eyes open, but I have no recollection of any of this what so ever and I only remember those short chunks of wakefulness, when I'm confused, as to how I got there and what's happening.
During those lucid moments, I am having this unshakable feeling, that I've done something very bad, or very embarassing, everyone around me knows that and they're trying to avoid me or that they are hesitating as to how to tell me, what happened.
This exact same scenario has been repeated during all of my subsequent trips; one time I've even drove my car in that state.
So, my question is - is there a way, to overcome this? Maybe some psychotherapeutic technique, or I need to take acid with a trip-sitter, while he'll be talking me out of that state? Or maybe anyone here have had a similar experience and have found other solution.
Thank you all in advance. Peace and love.
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Re: Please, help me, overcome my weird experience with LSD [Re: yremoorhS]
#26729288 - 06/08/20 04:14 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sounds just like trauma recollection either from the first experience, or from things that happened much earlier in your life or childhood. You might just have to go through these issues, not around them - to figure them out. Confront them and figure out why you are feeling these emotions, what you can do to help yourself understand, and how to do that.
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Re: Please, help me, overcome my weird experience with LSD [Re: yremoorhS]
#26729656 - 06/08/20 06:44 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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This is a dosage sensitivity thing.
Usually when we blackout, or whiteout, we also go to sleep, but it sounds like you hit the blackout stage and then went into a full Somnambulant Deliriant type trip like the kind of trip that Devil's Trumpet (Datura) produces.
Some people can take small amounts of Datura (which is poison - do not try it) and they get acid like experiences, but if they take more then they have what you had.
Most people do not get that stoned so easily, meaning that you are blessed with extra LSD sensing 5-ht receptors in your brain. Lucky you. save money.
Take only 1/4 tab and call me in the morning, and do not smoke pot or take anything else psychoactive at the same time or for the next 6 hours.
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Re: Please, help me, overcome my weird experience with LSD [Re: yremoorhS]
#26729994 - 06/08/20 08:51 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Is there a way to overcome this? Yes.
I have experienced something similar.
You had a scary experience, would you agree?
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yremoorhS said:
During those lucid moments, I am having this unshakable feeling, that I've done something very bad, or very embarassing, everyone around me knows that and they're trying to avoid me or that they are hesitating as to how to tell me, what happened.
The primary emotion you are describing here is SHAME.
How can we help you work with the feeling of shame?
Would you be open to it?
Peace and love to you as well.
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Re: Please, help me, overcome my weird experience with LSD [Re: rustygrape]
#26730128 - 06/08/20 09:56 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Try reading some Marquise de Sade (such as Salo - there's a film version) - it may make you feel better about yourself / regain the ability to laugh at yourself / laugh off all the bad vibes. But in all seriousness, that sounds like a very rare reaction to LSD and you likely have a particularly unique neurotransmitter 'set-up' going on behind the scenes. Ram Dass is nice to listen to - grab a Holy book and flip to any random page for some 'Chaos magic style' catharsis - The bible, book of Mormon, Tao te Ching, all good.
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Re: Please, help me, overcome my weird experience with LSD [Re: fatspoon]
#26730480 - 06/09/20 03:21 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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^ I agree with redgreenvines that this is probably a dosage-related issue, and also that you should try out just a quarter of a tab and see what happens then.
I myself have found that I seem to be pretty sensitive to psychedelics in general as well, and have had a similar experience before on LSD. Dozed off, blacked out, and woke up covered in piss and naked, having the worst trip I've experienced to date. It's not fun for sure. Usually this happens to me when I smoke weed before the peak. I don't anymore.
Everyone has different reactions to everything. I can get a full, beautiful trip with OEV's off of 100 mics, but I also have friends who have to take 4 tabs just to get any visuals at all. Some people don't even get visuals on any dose.
Above all, just start out as low as possible. You can always take more, but never less. Getting cocky with the dose has also been my downfall at times.
Good luck man, and remember that you don't HAVE to like acid either. If you just end up having bad trips or the "sleepwalking experience" you describe every time you dose even with the lowest possible dose, I would just chalk it up to your brain chemistry not agreeing with it.
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Re: Please, help me, overcome my weird experience with LSD [Re: TheHappyChemical]
#26730531 - 06/09/20 04:29 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I would not expect a low dose - eg 1/4 tab - to produce delirium for a sensitive like this. there is also the possibility that his tab was a hotspot with a few extra hits... some tab creators are sloppy.
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Re: Please, help me, overcome my weird experience with LSD [Re: yremoorhS]
#26731037 - 06/09/20 10:24 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think the people who put you in a shower without waking you up 1st to let you know what happened made a bad decision. Either way take redgreenvines advice to see what happens.
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Re: Please, help me, overcome my weird experience with LSD [Re: tyrannicalrex] 1
#26731670 - 06/09/20 02:53 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Idk man that’s sounds like something very abnormal.
I’ve never said this before but maybe stop dosing and get checked out. You might be one of the very few unlucky people who have psychedelics kickstart mental issues.
Especially if there’s any mental illness in your family.
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Re: Please, help me, overcome my weird experience with LSD [Re: A.k.a]
#26731682 - 06/09/20 03:02 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: Idk man that’s sounds like something very abnormal.
I’ve never said this before but maybe stop dosing and get checked out. You might be one of the very few unlucky people who have psychedelics kickstart mental issues.
Especially if there’s any mental illness in your family.
Yes! Also one of the best answers for sure!
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