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OfflineTurvenuija
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Re: What do mushrooms do to benefit you? [Re: Nonagon Infinity]
    #26736637 - 06/11/20 11:27 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I think that's a positive thing. I've found that people who medicate their problems with weed or alcohol tend to do so every single day, which can be quite the drain on one's life. Comparatively, people who medicate with large dosages of mushrooms get so shaken up by what they see that they can't handle doing it more than a handful of times per year - plus, the tolerance for mushrooms builds up quickly as well, preventing it from being realistically abused every day.

That said, there are people who abuse mushrooms, like any other drug. However, I don't think you're one of those people, considering it's been a few months since you've tripped. That doesn't sound like abuse to me. If mushrooms shake things up enough for you that you feel like there's more to life than you previously knew, I'd say that's pretty great medicine :smile:



Oops, forgot to check back for a couple days. Yeah, weed is especially dangerous because there's practically no hangover and getting blissfully high every day is very doable compared to alcohol. Weed is only for people with self control. I don't find myself too shaken up by heavy doses, I usually come back for more in just 1-3 weeks. Turns out doing that for too long eventually caught up with me and I needed to take a long break even though I didn't really want to. I do feel I abused the mushroom a bit, but it was too much fun to not do it as often as I did.

Now that I'm back in the saddle I feel like I've changed for the worse and my relationship with mushrooms needs to be built up from the ground up again. I've had three trips, first two were garbage and the third finally gave some decent results after getting demoralized for the first 1,5 hours so it's something.

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I stumbled upon a system that worked for my depression. “Sweet spot” dose of 3.8g dry cubensis, every 2 weeks with NO excuses, completely alone. Don’t steer the trip or set intention, just trip and see where it goes. After about 3 months, you’ll notice the after glow doesn’t go away. At this point, consider your dosing regime, nd maybe tone it down a bit to see how life then pans out.

Take care, depression is a bastard
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Hi Ed, your system sounds similar to the habit I got into except often dosing every weekend with about the same dose as you. I also liked to blast myself into hyperspace with much heavier doses irregularly. It did work fantastically well for a time, only eventually I started feeling nostalgic to previous trips and started to steer my trips so I could relive some experiences. A dumb mistake that I'll definitely repeat again. I think I wanna try your way over the summer and see how it goes. I won't trip this weekend so 3,8g next weekend it is then, thanks.


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Re: What do mushrooms do to benefit you? [Re: Turvenuija]
    #26736661 - 06/11/20 11:42 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Dude sounds similar to me. That’s why I said, after about 3 months, consider your dosing regime. Because I considered it, then carried on anyway! And the mushrooms have punished me; 7 trips this year, 6 too intense to enjoy, each slightly less than 3.8g,mandneach with less to no cannabis, and one of the 7 trips has been my first “bad trip” in about 30 years!. So I’m back to monthly doses, and building back up slowly.

No matter how many 100s of times you take mushrooms, they will always be more powerful than you.

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Re: What do mushrooms do to benefit you? [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26736687 - 06/11/20 11:56 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Either I'm not be used to being punished by mushrooms like this or I must have been some kind of masochist in the past. I guess these slumps come and go, I hope you get back into enjoying trips more as well soon.


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Re: What do mushrooms do to benefit you? [Re: Turvenuija]
    #26736910 - 06/11/20 01:57 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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A dumb mistake that I'll definitely repeat again.





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Re: What do mushrooms do to benefit you? [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26737021 - 06/11/20 03:04 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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No matter how many 100s of times you take mushrooms, they will always be more powerful than you.





That's good to know that they don't lose their magic over time, I guess. I've had roughly 10 trips in my life over the course of 4 years, so I'm still very much a beginner. Mushrooms still feel extremely powerful to me, and I'm glad that they still have something to offer even after tripping hundreds of times.


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Re: What do mushrooms do to benefit you? [Re: Nonagon Infinity] * 1
    #26738278 - 06/11/20 11:51 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

There are so many benefits that I have experienced from mushrooms that i dont even know where to begin!  To start, i feel they have decreased my social anxiety.  Even though i consider myself a confident person I have always had a really hard time talking in groups of people and meeting new people but this has greatly decreased since taking mushrooms.

I also feel like I have a greater level of empathy.  I have always been a person who lacked super strong emotions.  I never really expressed great joy or great sadness.  Because of this I always had trouble understanding others emotions but a few of my trips have helped me to understand this better.

Decreased my fear of death. To be honest, my first mushroom trip (about 7 grams dried) increased my anxiety around death because it made me extremely aware of my mortality.  Me being in my early 20s i sometimes felt like i was immortal but the mushrooms were basically like "nope youre gonna die too buddy".  Subsequent trips have put me at ease though as it has made me believe that there will always be life beyond this one. 

Made me a better family member and friend.  I sometimes neglected the people who love me the most and the mushrooms really shoved this fact in my face and forced me to deal with that.  Since then I have really been putting in twice the effort to stay close to my family and friends and fix any problems that we may have.

Last but not least they are a cure for the migraine headaches that i suffer from every now and then.  I usually get severe migraines every month or so, sometimes more often, sometimes less.  However after heavy mushroom trips I tend to not have a migraine for up to 6 months and then it seems like the effect more or less wears off.  Also worth noting that taking mushrooms (or LSD) at the onset of a migraine can completely stop it in its tracks.  Never have found a perscription drug that is anywhere near as effective.


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Re: What do mushrooms do to benefit you? [Re: Nonagon Infinity]
    #26738697 - 06/12/20 05:19 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

The reveal more of yourself to yourself.


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Re: What do mushrooms do to benefit you? [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #26739076 - 06/12/20 09:07 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

They can shut off the running commentary in your head


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Re: What do mushrooms do to benefit you? [Re: chiefpeef]
    #26739152 - 06/12/20 09:43 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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There are so many benefits that I have experienced from mushrooms that i dont even know where to begin!  To start, i feel they have decreased my social anxiety.  Even though i consider myself a confident person I have always had a really hard time talking in groups of people and meeting new people but this has greatly decreased since taking mushrooms.




That's interesting. I often find that I have more social anxiety while I'm tripping. I generally have difficulty in large groups or groups of people I don't know after eating mushrooms. However, this feeling usually passes once the trip is over. Nice to hear you've had some long term benefits on that vector.

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I also feel like I have a greater level of empathy.  I have always been a person who lacked super strong emotions.  I never really expressed great joy or great sadness.  Because of this I always had trouble understanding others emotions but a few of my trips have helped me to understand this better.




How did they help you understand that better? Was it because mushrooms were an extremely emotional experience for you, or something else?

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Decreased my fear of death. To be honest, my first mushroom trip (about 7 grams dried) increased my anxiety around death because it made me extremely aware of my mortality.  Me being in my early 20s i sometimes felt like i was immortal but the mushrooms were basically like "nope youre gonna die too buddy".  Subsequent trips have put me at ease though as it has made me believe that there will always be life beyond this one.




This is also an interesting one. Personally, I've never struggled too much with my own mortality. It's something I always remember being pretty aware of. That said, I have read many accounts of people who say mushrooms have decreased their anxiety about death - especially people who have terminal illnesses. However, there's a subtle difference I've noticed between those types of accounts and your own: I've found that when people describe decreased anxiety about death after a mushroom experience, it's coming from a place of acceptance. The idea seems to be that one can see they've lived a complete life (or that the idea of a "complete life" is nebulous in the first place) and that death is simply the end. People often report feeling much more at-peace with the life they have left to live after an experience like that. What's interesting about your account is that the mushrooms seem to have left you with some reassurance of an afterlife. I can't say I've seen that before.


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Last but not least they are a cure for the migraine headaches that i suffer from every now and then.  I usually get severe migraines every month or so, sometimes more often, sometimes less.  However after heavy mushroom trips I tend to not have a migraine for up to 6 months and then it seems like the effect more or less wears off.  Also worth noting that taking mushrooms (or LSD) at the onset of a migraine can completely stop it in its tracks.  Never have found a perscription drug that is anywhere near as effective.



I have heard about using LSD as a treatment for migraines and cluster headaches, but I don't believe I've heard of mushrooms being used for that purpose. I'm glad they helped you in that regard!


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Re: What do mushrooms do to benefit you? [Re: Sultan]
    #26739156 - 06/12/20 09:46 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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They can shut off the running commentary in your head



I guess this is a part of ego death, and I've definitely had experiences like this on mushrooms. Sometimes, it feels like my thoughts are quieter after eating mushrooms, allowing more room for other experiences. How, specifically, would you say that this quieting of the mind benefits you?


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Re: What do mushrooms do to benefit you? [Re: Nonagon Infinity]
    #26739364 - 06/12/20 11:19 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I wonder if you already have the idea of an after life conditioned in you. Have you believed in the afterlife before the mushroom experience?

I don't believe in an afterlife but I can see how during my trips I could easily come to that conclusion. But I don't see any other evidence other than the trips. It was more of a hunch of the afterlife existing.


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Re: What do mushrooms do to benefit you? [Re: LosTresOjos] * 2
    #26739677 - 06/12/20 01:56 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Mushrooms let me explore emotional side of the world. I sit on the ASD spectrum and my empathy and emotional side of things sits at 1 or 2 normally, my friends even call me a robot lol. Under mushrooms the dial goes to 11 and I can explore various things on will and get a glimpse of what it is to be like a normal person, among many other things. Vivid imagination and ease of visualising and exploring concepts is awesome, I have figured out a lot of stuff during trips.


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Re: What do mushrooms do to benefit you? [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #26739784 - 06/12/20 02:42 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I wonder if you already have the idea of an after life conditioned in you. Have you believed in the afterlife before the mushroom experience?

I don't believe in an afterlife but I can see how during my trips I could easily come to that conclusion. But I don't see any other evidence other than the trips. It was more of a hunch of the afterlife existing.



I think you might have meant to direct that towards chiefpeef. I don't believe in an afterlife, either. haha


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Re: What do mushrooms do to benefit you? [Re: MindMeower]
    #26739786 - 06/12/20 02:43 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Mushrooms let me explore emotional side of the world. I sit on the ASD spectrum and my empathy and emotional side of things sits at 1 or 2 normally, my friends even call me a robot lol. Under mushrooms the dial goes to 11 and I can explore various things on will and get a glimpse of what it is to be like a normal person, among many other things. Vivid imagination and ease of visualising and exploring concepts is awesome, I have figured out a lot of stuff during trips.



Woah, that's super interesting. I don't think I've ever met an autistic person who has used psychedelics before, so it's really interesting to hear your experience with that. Thanks for sharing!


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Re: What do mushrooms do to benefit you? [Re: Nonagon Infinity] * 1
    #26739829 - 06/12/20 03:06 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Mushrooms let me explore emotional side of the world. I sit on the ASD spectrum and my empathy and emotional side of things sits at 1 or 2 normally, my friends even call me a robot lol. Under mushrooms the dial goes to 11 and I can explore various things on will and get a glimpse of what it is to be like a normal person, among many other things.




Same here bud. I actually figured out I was autistic while I was tripping on acid. Asked my parents about it a few days later and they've known for years and never told me. I was watching the documentary "The Sunshine Makers" and realized that I had a lot of tendencies similar to Tim Scully, one of the original chemists of Orange Sunshine, whom they mentioned was on the spectrum. Soon enough, I looked up the symptoms of it and my mind was blown. Almost my entire personality is the result of the way my brain is physically structured? Wow. That's good to know.

Psychedelics allow me to go outside of my mind and understand the workings of it better. Being able to actually communicate with people verbally, and say exactly what you want to, no matter for how short of a time, is a true blessing as well.

I feel like a robot a lot too. Multiple trips I've spent just full on crying for hours, amazed that I can actually feel something so emotionally powerful, when normally the only things I used to feel was intense anxiety and depression over my social shortcomings.

I'm curious if this has ever happened to you? I mean full out bawling, like there was/is an emotional blockage in my brain that gets dissolved when I trip. It's not often that I run into another tripper on the spectrum.


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Re: What do mushrooms do to benefit you? [Re: TheHappyChemical] * 1
    #26740093 - 06/12/20 05:08 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

More along the lines of the actual thread, I'd say that mushrooms specifically have helped me tremendously as an antidepressant, dosed occasionally when I feel like I'm slipping.

Not to mention, their cultivation has shown to be a hugely beneficial hobby for me to obsess over and research, as intense obsessions are what keep me occupied from day to day, a classic symptom of autism. I was the kid who was WAY too into dinosaurs in school. It's hard to be depressed when there's so much to learn and do, having only done two simple PF Tek grows so far.

I'm a huge acid head, but while L has definitely helped me work through a multitude of personal problems including a pretty bad cigarette addiction, shrooms have always been a much gentler, more euphoric, less mindfucky option for me in that respect. I know for sure if I had better accessibility to them back then, they would've done just as well if not better for the same purposes I used acid for.

I also appreciate that I don't have to plan out a whole 12 hour block of time to get some relief. I used to love the duration, but it's gotten old recently.

I'm an atheist, but I'd say the feeling I get on mushrooms is probably the most "spiritual" trip I've experienced on any psych. I'm definitely not trying to dose in search of God or anything, but I am very excited to further explore this realm of psychedelics that I had previously ignored/ not cared about.

I'd say my experiences have pushed me even further towards non-belief, but with a much deeper connection to the natural world around me and the processes that guide it, including evolution, which is the closest thing to a God I believe in. One of the most impactful visuals I've ever seen on mushrooms was two crawling vines which intertwined into a perfect double helix, representing the inseparable connection between nature and science, or at least in my interpretation of it.


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Re: What do mushrooms do to benefit you? [Re: TheHappyChemical] * 1
    #26741543 - 06/13/20 10:22 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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TheHappyChemical said:I'm curious if this has ever happened to you? I mean full out bawling, like there was/is an emotional blockage in my brain that gets dissolved when I trip. It's not often that I run into another tripper on the spectrum.



Not so much letting out whatever had been built up but I have cried from happiness or sadness and many other things when I have been sitting on toilet and playing out scenarios etc. in my mind while I fight with my bladder (I always have hard time getting first pee out, once that happens the trip will have no more things to worry about lol). One time I thought my myself how I weep from the top and should do so from the bottom aswell and then it happened hahahahahaha. It has felt cathartic, in most positive way.


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Re: What do mushrooms do to benefit you? [Re: MindMeower]
    #26741933 - 06/13/20 02:22 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

That's awesome that it allows you to feel those emotions. It really is amazing what these substances can do for a mind.

Psychedelic pisses are something else. I always imagine a choir of angels singing Hallelujah when it finally comes out, and many times this will be accompanied by my vision being covered in a sheen of gold.

I'm dying at the image of you letting go and "weeping from the bottom." Made my day. Urine therapy is the future.


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Re: What do mushrooms do to benefit you? [Re: TheHappyChemical]
    #26742002 - 06/13/20 02:59 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

They allow for spontaneity & primal non-dual awareness to regain their primacy.


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Re: What do mushrooms do to benefit you? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26742842 - 06/13/20 10:08 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

They balance me out, gives me a good mental reset from extreme stress and provides great physical pain relief. This goes for both mush and L.


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